And that's useful because...? O_o

Because it makes up for his small penis.

I didn't know the Amish could use firearms.

Uh, it's ALL BLACK, so YEAH, the Amish could.

:)

And if you don't know, smartypants, he could very well be Menonite, and probably is being that he's being FILMED. (Videoed) They aren't as restrictive. One of my brothers at school was Menonite. They are and behave perfectly normal, as you would probably judge.

That looks like a decent design.

Be cool if it wasnt built around a Glock.

Or, I suppose, you could just carry a hand gun - and a flash light - and then you wouldn't have to worry about your transformer gun.

Now, if it made that transformer noise while it flipped open - THAT'D be cool.

-but a KILLER, a REAL cold-blooded, dyed-in-the-wool KILLER would have asked what that flashing red button on the bottom does.

(!)

Bring me the priest...

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"Get's Nasty? Get down to business." (Cue _Business Time_)

Also, seems that there's lots of pointing-gun-at-oneself-moments during the set up process.

Lastly, can't tell you how many times I've been taking out the trash and rueing my decision to leave my Glock at home.

If i live in an area in which i need a foldout machine gun for walking my dog or bringing the trash out i would really consider moving.

Or lets rephrase that : I would get in my car, leave everything i own behind and start a new life.

In the time that your gun is unfolding, you'd already be dead or unconscious.

@strider_mt2k: Fifth Element Reference FTW.
@Joseph: No, your would-be assailant would be rolling on the floor laughing themselves into unconsciousness....

This was done YEARS ago:

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Would be a pretty decent PDW for the non-infantry military types. You're right though, really no reason for a civilian to have one. Though I could also see it being good for "executive protection" types as well.

reminds me of that kid from robocop with lunchbox gun lol.

Would sell well in russia too I imagine.

@Barry99705: Yeah, but in all honesty, what's the point? The idea being that it's concealed isn't that great because it looks like you'd have a better draw from a holster. If the concealment part isn't necessary, then keep it simple and stick with just the PDW.

Already been done for real. All these guys did was take an ARES FMG and stick a flash light on top.

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@Barry99705: "no reason for a civilian to have one."

Except that it's awesome.

Anyway, yeah: the Magpul FMG-9 is a variation on the Ares FMG. The significant bit isn't the flashlight, but that it's mostly plastic. Previous FMG designs are pretty much metal on metal. Magpul does a lot of stuff with plastics, including plastic magazines for your AR-15 and all the plastic bits of the Bushmaster ACR; the FMG-9 is a project they did to show off, but will apparently see limited production due to interest.

@dzazter: yeah..Glock..
one of the most durable pistols around..

What if you don't want to advertise that you have a gun and a flashlight..?

More than half of you don't know what Magpul makes without having to google the company..

I could see this being used for executive protection detail,but not really military because the military has the M9 and the M4.

this weapon would be ideal for carrying in a briefcase or a backpack provided you have a concealed carry weapons permit.

The flashlight is a Streamlight..not a bad choice.
and about him pointing the business end at himself or others..well it doesn't fire unless you pull the trigger..the first shot is double action..a long trigger pull..like a revolver.
and it isn't a "machine gun" because there is no auto sear and it's not a rifle caliber either.
Either it's a pistol with a extended barrel or a pistol caliber carbine..of which you might have to have a AOW permit for..AnyOtherWeapon..such as a sawed off shotgun or a gun that has a barrel length shorter than 14.5inches.However I don't think having a extended barrel on a pistol requires the AOW permit.

Of course you could just do this -
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@akmarksman: The problem is the integral buttstock transforms it from a pistol to a Short Barrelled Rifle (SBR) which does make it a AOW. It's like Keltec's PLR, it's a legal pistol in .223 with a forward Picanntany rail. Put a forward grip on that rail or any sort of buttstock and you just created a SBR, and committed a felony without the tax stamp. Don't need a permit I think, just an extra $200 for the stamp and permission from the chief law enforcement officer in your area.

@thebullfrog: Awesome! Joel's actually a close friend of my family. We still have his banjo in our basement. Seriously. He's hilarious.

Yea! Gun thread!

Interesting design, but the examples he uses (walking the dog...) are stupid.

This is more geared for VIP protection. A VIP could be surrounded by heavily armed bodyguards, without them looking like heavily armed bodyguards. Still, I'm not sure how much more useful it would be than a small submachine gun concealed in a jacket.

@akmarksman It has the capability to accept an auto sear, so it can be full auto.

I don't think the semi-auto form of this would be classed as an AOW. I think the forward hand grip would force it to be classed as a Short Barreled Rifle. (which costs you a $200 transfer tax instead of $5 for the AOW.)

@strider_mt2k:
Really is a 5th Element kind of day huh?

Sweet concept. Not sure who would carry this kind of thing with the concealed weapons laws where I live. Tell you what though, people can say what they want, but in the RIGHT hands crazier situations have arisen where this thing may have prevented tragedy. The world is a hateful, crazy, violent world and it's only getting worse......
Yeah, I know about the possibility on the opposite end of the tragedy scale too.

@junyo:

You're laround 95% right.

SBR is not the same as AOW.

has anyone seen the judge dredd movie? that reminds me of that transforming gun-thingy used by rico before he breaks out of prison...nice.

@Barry99705:
it's a good thing we don't need reasons or justification to be armed, then.

"no reason for a civilian to have one."

and oddly enough...

There's no reason a non-civilian would need one either.

it is the logical extension of the agent zero-m toys we had as kids

i, however am a fan of open carry
if you know EVERYONE is packin, there is less profit in trying to do the crime

"no reason for a civilian to have one."

The day the atomic mutant nazi super-russians attack, you'll wish you had this.

Frankly, I much prefer the option of having weapons, whereas our buddies in England can't even put a freaking samurai sword on their wall. If someone decides to do a home invasion on me their going to have a nasty surpise.

Oh man, I want one.

"Glock-style submachine gun" WTH is that supposed to mean? the only "automatic" "submachine gun" by Glock is the Glock 18 - NOT available to the public (or you can modify one yourself - illegal)
other than that Glock make Semi-Automatic pistols and knives .. so when you DO find a Glock Submachine gun please tell the rest of the Gun community -

Glock Style .. jezzz

I asked the gun geek at the IRC chat for one forum I visit daily about that video about what he thought of it. I don't remember what he said. But I think he said something to the effect of "folding guns have been done before and they don't really work out".

jesus......

I like it.

I wouldn't consider it a EDC or little more than a novelty, but the ability to basically have a small pistol carbine that can almost fit into your back pocket is pretty sweet. I see this as being a practical thing to have in a vehicle (legal in Texas) that looks inconspicuous but could come in handy in a bad situation.

I agree with what's said about folding guns, and it's true... a fold-out weapon are rarely as good as a "solid" one (knives come to mind) just because they add more complication to deployment and use (and everyone knows that the way Murphy's Law works, the more complicated something is, the more chances there are for something to screw up with it).

All that said... it'd be cool to camoflauge the non-flashlighted rectangle as a book and keep it someplace handy.

*camouflage

Spelling>me

i would keep one in the map pocket of my car. you know, for those road rage moments.

@akmarksman: I own a Glock 19, old school from the gun show in NC in 1989. Now, I don't know if they have changed much, but the Glock does not have a double-action hammer, like an M9 or revolver. A round is chambered, and it's ready to shoot. The safety, is also on the trigger, one of the less safe, but never have to worry about, "did I take the safety off" in a gunfight.

So, with this thing flipping about, I think you flag yourself, your buddy, your dog, and the VIP you are trying to protect.

That said, I would buy one if the price was not astronomical.

@daived:
That's what I'm saying (not the road rage part, but...)

I mean, I'm by no means a compound-dwelling, conspiracy-believing, the-world-is-out-to-get-me right-wing nutjob, but I do believe in being prepared for any situation.

I have a concealed carry license and carry my compact .45 everywhere I legally can. Have for about a year now. If I've learned anything from carrying, it's that as a responsible, law-abiding citizen, it doesn't make me more aggressive (what some people might think of a guy who carries a gun all the time) or do stupid stuff; it's the opposite. I realized after the number of public place shootings that if the shit hits the fan, all you can do is hide and hope not to die.

A prepared person has better control over his own destiny. Am I saying that if I were in a mall shooting that I'd be the hero who guns down the bad guy and rides off into the sunset? Nope, but I'd at least be able to do something other than just get slaughtered.

Here in Dallas, there was a guy who intentionally crashed his car, and then waited for good samaritans to walk up so he could blast them with a shotgun. Killed a few people that way. Now, I don't even think twice about stopping for someone, even if I'm carrying. That sucks and I hate that it's the world we live in that leads to that...

Now this gun... concealed in a hollowed-out text book under my front seat... I dunno, might mean that the odds were a bit more even if need be.

@akmarksman: i agree with everything you said, except it does have a place for an auto sear

@chuloallen: Actually, it's my understanding that, at least in the US, the Glock 18 and 18C would be legal for civilian purchase, provided you possess get the appropriate licenses and approvals. Granted, that's pretty unlikely, and the gun is heavily restricted (because it's nearly identical to a Glock 17). But, though I don't think they're imported these days, they do turn up once in a great while, for an exorbitant price. That's not the same as unavailable, though it's nearly so.

As to the FMG-9 being a 'Glock-style' submachine-gun, the gun in the video uses a Glock slide (sans rear sight, and with front sight ground down), a Glock sear and firing pin, and a Glock magazine. I'm not sure how much of the trigger assembly and action Magpul is putting to use there, and I can't watch the video from here to check, but the only part I remember as being obviously aftermarket other than the frame is the aftermarket barrel. How a gun that is at least 3/4s of a Glock 17 isn't a 'Glock-style' gun, I do not know.

Holy crap guys!! That's not really what I meant!! I'm a self defense instructor, and not against carrying guns. Though to be honest I really don't see the need. Carry a pistol, or carry a rifle. Something like this just looks like it's not going to work the way you want it to when it really needs to. Hell I just moved out of a state that lets you carry concealed without a permit!

Where the hell did my comment go??!! Okay, I'll just say this again... Really I see no need for this as a civilian. Carry a real pistol, or rifle. Not some transformer want to be that will probably not unfold right when it need to.

@Canthros: class III permit..full auto ftw ;)
however getting the class III is a lot of time..paperwork to the ATF and back takes about 3-6 months..

Hmm here in Canada we aren't allowed full autos, semis with more than 5 shots for rifles and 10 for pistols, and no concealed carry. Kind of boring.

haha. i know the guy presenting the rifle in the video. i never saw the amish beard before.

I demand one that fits in my PCMCIA slot

I'm a gun guy, hell I have Magpul mags and when their MOE handguard comes out I'll likely get that too. I've seen this video before and like the various full auto shotguns it one of those things that I think is really cool but the more I think about it the more I struggle to see the niche it's attempting to fill.

The advantage of it is no one knows you're carrying a pistol, however in order to carry it you'd likely need a concealed weapons license from your state, in which case just carry whatever your pistol of choice is in a holster. Accomplishes the same thing. If this deployed somewhat faster than unholstering your weapon I could see the point.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't love to own one just for the hell of it.

What a frightened society it is where 'ordinary people' think this kind of thing is NOT nuts.

No reason to have one?

Two words: Virgina Tech

Seems like there's a lot of socialists in here happily exercising their 1st amendment rights to advocate takin