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What teenage boy in their right mind would snitch? Whoever they are they deserve a blanket party Full Metal Jacket style.
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@Yerzriknot: The teenage boy who never learned how to respect women and conversed with the young lady in question with the purpose not of finding a significant other but of getting to see some b00bs.
Ergo there is one solution to the problem - teach young women that they need to have more self-respect than this, that infatuation is not love, and that sex is not love. Guys should understand the same but thankfully if in our society guys don't understand these things, they simply generally end up living alone. Reply
Ergo there is one solution to the problem - teach young women that they need to have more self-respect than this, that infatuation is not love, and that sex is not love. Guys should understand the same but thankfully if in our society guys don't understand these things, they simply generally end up living alone. Reply
@blash: He kind of jumped, but its the same idea. Kids at that age are learning that lesson or should be and mistakes are the best way to learn a lesson.
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@Zomb: That's like saying it's alright to give knives to little children and let them learn how to use it, if they cut off their thumbs then oh well they'll have learned from their mistake.
These shameful scenarios are emotionally scarring to the young women who become self-victims of such behavior. The ghettos and gangs, Grand Theft Auto (the original) may have put it coarsely but "Respect is Everything" in this world no matter where you go. These skeletons have a habit of coming out of the closet later in life and can wreck careers and lives long after the transgressions have occurred. It is best they never happen in the first place.
This is not to say that people shouldn't fool around when they're teenagers. But parents should not just sit back and let their kids fall flat on their faces - they still need to guide them. It's better that parents know about their kids sexual activity and provide them with condoms than it is to let them find out for themselves just how bad teenage pregnancy is in our society today.... let alone pregnancy where the father would rather move to another country than raise the child because he loved her body not her. Reply
These shameful scenarios are emotionally scarring to the young women who become self-victims of such behavior. The ghettos and gangs, Grand Theft Auto (the original) may have put it coarsely but "Respect is Everything" in this world no matter where you go. These skeletons have a habit of coming out of the closet later in life and can wreck careers and lives long after the transgressions have occurred. It is best they never happen in the first place.
This is not to say that people shouldn't fool around when they're teenagers. But parents should not just sit back and let their kids fall flat on their faces - they still need to guide them. It's better that parents know about their kids sexual activity and provide them with condoms than it is to let them find out for themselves just how bad teenage pregnancy is in our society today.... let alone pregnancy where the father would rather move to another country than raise the child because he loved her body not her. Reply
@blash: Marriage follows as a natural course of "looking for someone to love and respect". It all just sounds so formal and pressure-inducing.
I agree with you though, I think. I've known plenty of women who just didn't respect themselves enough and as a consequence were continually unhappy. Reply
I agree with you though, I think. I've known plenty of women who just didn't respect themselves enough and as a consequence were continually unhappy. Reply
@ian.nai: Mmmmm, marriage is something deeper I think. Marriage should not depend just on love and respect, because then divorce is a natural consequence when both of those are tested and go away for one reason or another - respect can be lost when one person makes a profound error in judgement on some other matter like money and "love" as we define it as a secular society today can be lost as a matter of time, being fed up with this or that, whatever.
Marriage is quite literally when two people decide to spend the rest of their lives together - and more importantly, recognize that nothing could drive them apart - not age (loss of physical attractiveness), not money (loss of a job, living on the streets), not success (a job that would require someone to be away from the other for a very long period of time), etc. Some people try to describe this permanent magnetism as love but I don't think we have the language to truly describe it.
The idea that someone could find someone suitable for marriage as a teenager is dubious, the idea that someone could be ready for marriage as a teenager is ludicrous if only due to inexperience on what someone would like to find in a life partner. Reply
Marriage is quite literally when two people decide to spend the rest of their lives together - and more importantly, recognize that nothing could drive them apart - not age (loss of physical attractiveness), not money (loss of a job, living on the streets), not success (a job that would require someone to be away from the other for a very long period of time), etc. Some people try to describe this permanent magnetism as love but I don't think we have the language to truly describe it.
The idea that someone could find someone suitable for marriage as a teenager is dubious, the idea that someone could be ready for marriage as a teenager is ludicrous if only due to inexperience on what someone would like to find in a life partner. Reply
@ian.nai: Society puts a lot of pressure on women and girls to be physically attractive. We've translated being "powerful" into being "sexy." On top of that, we spend very little time as a society teaching boys how to treat women with respect. When you combine these two things you get women who use their sexuality to get what they want, and men who know no better than to want women for their sexuality.
Obviously these are broad generalizations, but there are a lot of interesting studies on how men and women view women's bodies. Reply
Obviously these are broad generalizations, but there are a lot of interesting studies on how men and women view women's bodies. Reply
@blash: I was more talking about the sex is not love or guys want sex type of thing. You can't really learn anything without experiencing it yourself. Your mother telling you to respect yourself will not teach you anything, where as seeing the result of an action will. The emotional scarring your talking about is the lesson learned and it is the best way to learn a lesson. I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences to this. I'm just saying by making laws too strict on this type of thing you are preventing children from being able to grow up.
The best way to teach a kid not to play with a knife is to show him what happens when he does and then teach him how to use one properly, if he is old enough. Reply
The best way to teach a kid not to play with a knife is to show him what happens when he does and then teach him how to use one properly, if he is old enough. Reply
@blash: And yet up until around 100-150 years ago, the vast majority of the world's cultures, including the US, got married very young (like 16, sometimes younger). And had a lower divorce rate.
And yet, somehow we survived. Reply
And yet, somehow we survived. Reply
@Dogen: True, our society has got it's priorities all screwy. But how to change it? Maybe write a book about how the various screwy ideals are killing our society.
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@Zanzan42: We survived because society was different. Psychology is very much based on what happens in society at large. In that vast majority of the world's cultures, the only education many children received was in their parents' craft - and by the time they reached pubescence, they would be well-gifted. At age 16, it would not be unreasonable for young men to be able to support a family - and thus marry and start a family. Society, including women's psychology, was a part of this fact. Today though, with higher education, children get degrees and often wait much longer before they get a job to be able to support themselves AND a family - so they get married later.
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