866Ghz?? Damn, that's a fast CPU.

Facetiousness and obtuseness, all in one comment!

I do hope you mean 866MHz...if not, tell me where I can get one of those 866GHz beasts...

Sounds like it runs pretty well on specs that are 866 times slower than the recommended minimum requirements.

Think of how fast it would be at 866Ghz!

Thanks guy! Good to know.

HOLY FUXX0RS A 866GHZ LAPTOP... WHERE DO I GET IT!!! I WANT IT!!! NOW!!!

It's all pretty obvious, Leopard will run slow on old tech, sure it'll run, but it'll obviously run slow. Now.. Do us all a huge favor and install Vista on a PIII 800Mhz system. DOOO IT.

I want to know what happens when you try to install Leopard on a below spec machine. I'm really hoping I can put it on my mom's 800MHz iMac, mainly for the iChat screen sharing feature.

My mac has almost those exact minimum requirements(867Mhz, 640 RAM), its 4 years old, and there's no way it'd be worth putting leopard on it. I"m def getting a new macbook the next time they upgrade, which i'm hoping will be soon.

am installing on my 1.5g 12" ppc powerbook...about 50 minutes (INCLUDING 22 minutes to check the dvd)..not bad. anxious to see how the new beast runs...

That picture you took shows that Spotlight is still indexing.
Until indexing finishes, you can't get a real good feel for performance in Leopard (or even new Tiger installs, for that matter).

I've installed it on my 12" PowerBook G4 1.5gHz w/1.25gigs of RAM, and it seems to be running great... just as fast as leopard, if not faster. The only thing that seems to be running relatively slowly is cover flow (which I wasn't really that excited about in the first place...). Oh, that and it seems to take a few seconds longer to shut down... but as far as running apps (especially iLife), it seems to be running great :)

Too bad I don't get to use any of the iChat backgrounds :( grrr....

er, I meant to say "just as fast as Tiger, if not faster."

@ruggels:
DOOO IT, DOO IT!!!
i wanna see that test too!
800mhz PIII and 512ram + Windows Vista!

Hey, he's a journalist, not a MASOCHIST, Ruggels...

Now, will Leopard run on my eMate, or must I continue to hold out hope Steve'll pull something like it out of his... socks.. at some show soon?

who cares

@TylerL: How do you tell that Spotlight is still indexing? Thanks for the info.

I have a PowerBook G4 1Ghz with 768 RAM and I plan buy 1 Gb of RAM for $90.
I think it will run fine with 1.5 Gb of RAM. I installed Menumeters which can tell you when the HD is being used as RAM. And all the time I find the computer is not snappy because the HD is being used as RAM. The more RAM, the best ou can get out of older Macs.

@yotommy:

The little dot in the middle of the Spotlight magnifying glass.

thanks for the info. i happened to have a 1.0GHz powerbook with 1gb ram. so it should be ok to upgrade instead of getting a new mac :)

nice. i have a g4 1.25 ghz powerbook with a gig of ram, so it should be ok.
@eltoro2827: those of us who have macs, dickwad. thanks for the constructive comment.

@ruggels and EL_RIEL: Send me a copy of Vista Business or Ultimate, and I'll do that test for you. My old tablet has 833MHz P3M and 512MB. I should warn you though, even running XP it doesn't stack up.

Looks good. Anyone got a spar $130?

@eltoro2827:
Look at all of his Comments - total troll.

Friday Ban Party? I think so!!

@FubarGuy: I agree, seriously...i don't get why people hate products they don't use.

Not to sound like a fanboii (not sure which side this would count for, but..) 866 G4 vs. 866 P3... unfair fight much? you'd need at least a 1ghz p4 for it to be close to an even battle. That said, it's pretty much a given that even on leopard, old powerpc hardware WAY outperforms equivalant x86 hardware of the same vintage.

@sumocat: send you? HA! you smart face!

You know torrents right? they provide software and some other things for educational and test purposes ONLY! LOL! OKTHXBYE! =)

lets just say Leopard (macbook with 1GB RAM) upgraded faster than I could install and load Studio MX (Flash, Dreamweaver and Fireworks) on a Lenovo X61 (1GB RAM) running Vista Home Premium

ok, so thats SO totally unfair to begin with

zoom zoom zoom

Why windows people hates Leopard so much? Envy? Go get a Mac.

@manduvi: Because not everyone likes to switch?

Friends that have Vista and like it? out of 12, 0. Friends that have Leopard and like it? out of 7, 7. In fact one of my friends and his wife are going to buy an imac to replace the new Dell they got with Vista cos they hate it!

I installed it on both my G4 Digital Audio (2GB processor-1.5 GB ram) and on my G5 (dual 2 gb-2 gb ram) and it's in the process of being installed on my B&W G3 (1 gb-832 mhz ram) and seems to be acting ok. I am using my g4 right now and have been testing Leopard since I got it yesterday and both machines run great. Take that Vista!

@solgae1784:

Because they don't want to "switch", doesn't give them a legitimate reason to criticise anything Apple/Mac. Share the love people, dual boot Vista and Leopard now. ^^

@dearhaw: Thanks for the tip on the little dot!

Since installing Leopard I've reported multiple application crashes to Apple.

- Mail twice and iPhoto 2008 once.

Anyone else experiencing this? I have a couple of friends tell me they've had mail crash.

Since Installing Leopard on two machines I've had zero crashes and excellent performance from my MBP and MP.

The screen sharing feature built-in to Leopard is a nice touch and has already proved useful.

In a review of Leopard on a G4 at another blog I read the new DVD Player won't work, because of a new interlacing system.

Can someone with a G4 using Leopard indicate whether it does not run or just does not do the new interlacing thing?

It works fine on my 1 Ghz iBook G4. It even looks better than under Tiger. I'd say the improvements are working. Uses 25% of the CPU, with peaks up to 40%.

I installed leopard on my 4 year old Powerbook G4 Titanium (867 Mhz, 768 MB RAM). I erased the disk before installing it. It runs faster than I thought it would. I might keep this computer for another 6 months.

@hidde: I have it running on a 1ghz iBook with 1.25 GB RAM. DVD player works just as you'd expect it. However, the dock animations and overall responsiveness goes to crap with a few apps open. Stuttery and jerky...

That said, I like the upgrade and don't plan on reverting back.

The logic behind timing measures for boot up and shut down is flawed ? The additional times you indicate may be required to load up and even shut down services/features that differ from Tiger to Leopard (or any other version of OS X for that matter). We all know Apple G4 Powerbooks get sloppier and take longer to do anything after a simple update with OS X.

You would need to run something like the same version of Xbench on the new OS version to see whether there is any penalty for upgrading. Even run extensive testing with real world applications, things like File Maker database queries, photoshop and video rendering as well, File compression, mp3 decode and encode, the basic battery of tests.

Just thinking there is overhead built into everything. The 867 might have to use more cpu time, but does that mean it'll be slower ? How often is it pegged at 100% cpu usage ? How good is the rest of the system in managing resources. I've performed updates that would preclude anyone from going from 10.4.x to 10.4.y, as opposed to going from 10.4 to 10.5.

My biggest concern/issue is how worthless time machine will be ? How long will it take that feature before it uses up the last 10-15 GB's of a 40 GB hdd ?

Just as I suspected or rather hoped for. I ran X-bench after installing/upgrading to Leopard earlier this evening. The scores for multiple runs varied, but were no worse nor better than archived Panther & Tiger runs that I had saved. I used version 1.1.2 to be consistent and to even use a benchmark that was developed for the PPC G4 during the introductory year (late 2003) of a 1st generation 867 Mhz PB 12" model.