From the D Conference Q&A:
Question: We'd love to write apps. Will it open up?
Steve Jobs: This is a very important trade-off between security and openness. We want both. We've got good ideas, and sometime later this year, we can open it up to third-party apps...













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Says 'we can', not 'we are going to', so your headline that it will support 3rd party apps is misleading and untrue.
Wow, isn't this the kind of reckless reporting that got Engadget in hot water recently (admittedly, on a much smaller scale)?
finally something that will incline myself even more to buy an iphone (whenever they sell them OEM i dont live in the US) over the meizu... let jjust wait and see
...meaning this story is reckless on a smaller scale, not the reverse, which my original comment sounds like on a second read-through.
So true. So reckless! Putting up a short post where the content can't be hidden in editorializing, providing a direct quote, and putting the referenced words in bold so that the reader can determine for him or herself what it actually means?!?!
I'd hardly call it "official", that's just spouting spin at "D".
Ok, this actually peaks my interest. The Jesus Phone hasn't really done much for me, but if I can code for it, that makes it much, much more interesting.
Now if we could have details, please.
@Quattor...there are no details. Just Jobs making stuff up.
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The headline is in direct conflict with the actual story...the average reader who reads the headline is going to have a skewed viewpoint of the facts.
The headline should have read 'iPhone to possibly have 3rd party apps by end of year'.
But I guess the apple fanboys can't get enough iPhone press, true or false.
Boy, the semantic police are on patrol.
Arguably, Apple 'can' open the iPhone to 3rd party apps any time it wishes, so one could infer that Jobs used the word 'can' in the more liberal/active sense (will/plan to). 'Later this year' is pointless if he meant 'can' as in 'able to'.
As in, 'How about you read the article content, and then you can freak out about it?'
No fanboy here.
Just unconcerned about the hypothetical reader who can't read a 5-line post for himself. Skips over the average New Yorker piece perhaps; won't sift through the fluff in a full transcript maybe; can't follow a link even; but can't read 5 lines directly under the headline (Setup, Q:, Direct Quote)?
Yeah, not so much.
"sometime later this year, we can open it up to 3rd party apps"
naysayers: if you read it, you'll see the attitude steve has when he says it. they can't do 3rd party now, because of security issues. they can later and in the light of:
"This is a very important tradeoff between security and openness. We want both."
they WILL. if he WANTS openness, and they CAN open it later this year, then it will happen. He's not at all bashful about saying no iphone-itunes store access, no hdtv on appleTV. He says no to the no's. if it were a no, he'd say so.
"But I guess the apple fanboys can't get enough iPhone press, true or false."
and i guess it gives the trolls something to troll about, endlessly, in their bored, spiteful lonliness.
it also doesn't help that the interview is being actively transcribed into Engrish. Theres no way steve talks like this:
"So far, music not doing well on phones. On phones, you have 3g, but not good way to use."
sure look like pic of David Hassolhoff photoshoped with stevie's face.
@os_2:
Then wouldn't he be eating a cheeseburger off the floor?
That picture is very disturbing. Excuse me while I go stare into the sun for a few.
The iPhone is doomed ti pickied up by anybody other than fanboys without any 3rd party apps.
"Is that an iPhone in your underwear? Or is that just your junk ringing?"
i had the same hasselhoff idea for the other photoshop contest (make pogue look as cool as possible) even though this was probobly posted before i sent the photo in... but i swear i did it yesterday, and just messed it up more today. and then sent it in before i messed it up more... and opened giz and saw this..
eh now i bet someones gonna call me a copycat
:/
great minds think alike...
but Jesus is a better photoshopper than i ever will be
But will the Palm Foleo be able to sync with the iPhone? Man, that would be a great product!
I hear the iPhone has a wicked spellcheck!
You knew what I said that's the important part.
Jeez, sorry, maybe I'm being overly critical. I just thought such an offhand comment was far short of "official." Also, I didn't see that comment in Engadget's liveblog at all, and as nutbastard says, it's hard to determine what's an actual verbatim quote and what's summarized in liveblogging.
Or maybe I'm just not perfectly in tune with the frequency Jobs transmits his RDF at. ;)
My eyes!!! My goddamned eyes!!!
"and as nutbastard says, it's hard to determine what's an actual verbatim quote and what's summarized in liveblogging"
i SAID it's being directly transcribed into Engrish. it's much more amusing that way. don't portray me as some sort of unfunny motherfucker.
Is that a banana in your pocket or is your iPhone just happy to get air?
OMG! Jesus you out did yourself this time. The pic is f'n hilarious.
That image is funny stuff. Keep it up.
Gizmodo... I don't think you've officially closed the polls. I vote everyone!
@Quattuor
The basic details seem pretty straightforward right now. Since the iPhone apparently supports widgets and "real" web content, the most direct path is likely to be AJAX stuff. I'm working on an MMOG myself and went with a JavaScript client to potentially tap the iPhone market (with or without eventual Apple support). If you have needs beyond what that gets you, it really comes down to what other APIs Apple opens up. Personally I've gotten sick of vendor lock-in, so I'm not so keen on having to develop just for an iPhone API.
Do you think the iPhone will run Adobe Flash Player?
@doinka
If you go to Apple's iPhone site and watch the demo in the keynote, you never see Jobs go to a site with Flash content. Not even Flash ads seemed to show up, so Flash is not a given. I do expect them to have support by the time the thing ships, but the safer bet is to develop with the demonstrated features in mind. Given that Flash is mostly used for ads (and video content with high bandwidth requirements), if they end up not supporting it I'm not going to get that weepy . . .
Again, the apple fanboys seem unable to grasp the distinction being made by jobs. He says they 'can', not that they 'will'...why does everyone automatically think he'll do the right thing?
Oh that's right - apple fanboys have a long and tired history of believing every best-case scenario. Kind of like the way they thing apple PC hardware will ever become relevant.
bah, my nokia e61 loaded with plenty of 3rd party apps never crashes ... anyway, good job Steve, now pack that iphone with a replaceable battery, a 3G chip and a bluetooth mini-keyboard and maybe could be slightly worth the insame amount of money it will cost...
This is a direct quote from Steve Jobs, on Record, at a Wall Street journal Event. You armchair journos shut the fuck up. It's fun to criticize on the internet, but when you get the facts wrong, it just makes you look dumb.
Not that I'm a iPhone fan, but I always assumed that they meant the average person wouldn't be able to make programs from the phone. It would seem to be a really stupid decision if they didn't let certain companies create program.
That picture is SO wrong in SO many ways!! I thought NSFW pics weren't shown on the main page!!
(*sits down, rocking in the corner, having been scarred for life*)
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