Nokia is always at the top in my book. Those Finnish sure know how to make a phone. Plus they don't brick their phones if you hack them.

No way am I gonna carry a stylus for a phone. It looks like a Zune. Why didn't they show the lady using it, they kept that part covered. The keyboard buttons were small as hell.

Looks pretty nice, but I REALLY don't want to have to use a stylus after years and years of PDA use. Here's hoping that the UI is slick enough to be used just by your fingers.

Was that "The Seed" playing over the video?

i welcome having a choice between stylus/fingers. sometimes you need a little bit more accuracy - have you tried the sketch app for the iphone? it's impossible to use with a fat finger like mine. i also hope that if you use this slicktastic phone, you don't start having weird eye twinkles like the lady did at the end of the video

so when is it ready for prime time?

Looks like most of the points were a jab @ the iphone... i.e. send messages to multiple people...

Hopefully @pple gets the Message!

I doubt the first product out will be able to match the iPhone for usability but it will keep the pressure on Apple which is a very good thing. If they keep the iPhone locked up to 3rd party apps and no 3G then it's only a matter of time before the other offerings become compelling. This is a very good thing.

A phone that doesn't require surgically lobbing off the tips of my fingers? Priceless.

I don't doubt their hardware for a second, and that UI looks as it should be, but Symbian.... Yeah, count me out.

How long do I have to wait until I make myself broke buying one of those phones?

Open Source? Huh?

^obviously an iPhone user.

LET THE FLAMES BEGIN!

It looks pretty cool n the software looked pretty zippy...nokia has phones with the best specs in the market but the only thing pulling them down is their sliggish software...lets wait n watch...

So after following the link, i learned that S60 is their OS.... which seems to be on many of their products..

my question... which piece of hardware are they showing in the video?

what is the model of that?

It seems they kind of picked up some ideas and improved them.

As for stylus, I wish the iPhone had support for finger as well as stylus. Sometimes you just want precision. Of course that's why the iPhone looks like it does, you need fat finger support for everything. As well as win mobile, it fits a lot more on the screen b/c of the stylus.

I'm not sure how Nokia will handle the duality of the stylus and finger. Tricky.

So it's running the same open source Symbian S60 OS that their other phones and the razr runs, except a better interface and faster processor? Sounds good to me! I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank apple for rising the bar, so Nokia could come by and make it better (open source, that's what I'm talkin bout'). I am so buying this phone when it comes out.

two things that i noticed:

1. i hope that "touch to answer" isn't the only way to answer calls. i like the "slide to answer" on the iPhone because i don't have to worry about accidentally answering the call while i'm grabbing the phone out of my pocket.

2. i hope there's another way to silence incoming calls other than flipping the phone over.

I'd buy a noke over an Apple any day, both for the open source and broader GSM options. I really like the way Nokia is going with this open-platform and direct sales model. I think it could really open up the industry quite a bit.

@arashi: Well, although I cannot afford one, my dad has that new E90 (the one that's like $800) and it is such a nice phone. Symbian actually has many, MANY programs available. Although I'd have had the same opinion as you, after seeing what his phone does and how everything works, I am more than willing to change to that OS.

Toyotaboy: You have your facts mixed up a tad. First of all, it's not Symbian S60 OS. It's Symbian OS and the user interface is S60 (aka. "Series 60", as opposed to "Series 40" which is used in low-end Nokia phones). The other user interface on top of Symbian is UIQ, which Motorola and Sony-Ericsson are backing (and until yesterday only S-E).

As far as earlier questions on what hardware it runs etc., that's an un-announced device but knowing the hardware in general, that's an ARM11 based device clocked at around 350MHz or so. You can expect around 100MB of RAM (heap) and storage memory (flash) depending on the targeted use. For example now some Nokia devices have hardly any on-board storage and rely entirely on memory cards, whereas others have up to 8GB of on-board storage.

And again, S60 is not an OS - it's a user interface. The OS is "Symbian OS", which is currently at version 9.3. For those keeping score, the current / soon-to-be-released S60 version is "3rd edition, Feature Pack 2".

Arashi: Symbian OS is actually quite stable and solid. As an end-user, you don't really see the OS anywhere. It's not like Windows or OS X. Think more along the lines of Linux where you have a kernel & OS (=Symbian) and then a totally separate UI layer on top of that. So you could say S60 is like KDE or Gnome in Linux terms.

For developers though, Symbian OS is not the easiest to be sure! It's not that it's bad or unstable. It's just that it's so damn complex that it's tough to do even simple things. Some examples: there's a special "leaving" system because the C++ compiler originally used didn't support exceptions. As a result, object construction is also two-phased instead of using normal constructors. Tons of things that are synchronous operations in other APIs are asynchronous in Symbian, etc. But those are just headaches for the developer's - end users don't see that stuff.

Oh yeah, forgot to say: Razr doesn't use either Symbian nor S60.

ipodne is still better, looks like you need a stylus for most of that, plus I doubt it will have 8gbs built in. Also you have to use a sidebar to scroll!? looks kinda lame to me, not user friendly

I like that the screen appears to be true widescreen, as opposed to the iPhone's semi-widescreen.

Has no one seen the interface on the Nokia N800? If you push with your finger, everything gets bigger and finger friendly. If you push with a stylus, everything stays stylus friendly. Implementing that concept on this prototype makes lots of sense.

@Kim98:
Those ARM11 processors can go past 1 ghz.

Uuuu. Sortof makes me hope they'll still bring out the Nokia Aeon sometime :D. Which is proof that they aren't copying Apple! Apple just beat them to it! Looky [www.nokia.com] click on one of the high end resolution photo's. Puuuurdy!

I love Nokia- but that was absolutely one of the worst presentations I've ever seen. Was this specifically geared towards shareholders only?

@claybranyon: It sounded kinda like the seed to me.

I would rather walk to the person I'm trying to contact than use a stylus.

Mr. Malik, @toyotaboy, @weatherman:

The S60 platform and its underpinning Symbian 9x operating system are not Open Source! Maybe you're confused that Nokia released its S60 browser source code and code to write S60 apps in Python. Or maybe you think Operating System means "open source".

Zune2 = iPod killer
And this could quite possibly harken the era of an iPhone killer

Apple better keep on its toes if it wants the money to keep rolling in.

The only thing keeping me from buying an n95-8gb is the lack of a pokety poke touch screen. as soon as they release something with this technology to the public, I'll be on it like stink on shit.

that reminded me of a porno w/its cheesy music and handheld camcorder action.

@slumlord:
Is there a better type of porno? zing!

It doesn't support iTunes DRM, so fuck it. Besides, just because it matches, or even exceeds the feature list does not a true iphone killer make. The only way anyone will know if something is an iPhone killer is AFTER it has killed the iPhone.

I know, I hate DRM too, but I ain't buying a device that doesn't support my music. Thats why I went with the iPhone and not an LG, HTC, or WinMo based device.

I think these SmartPhone companies are trying to do too much. There are two things I want to do on the road, use my phone and view my media (music, movies photos). Shoe horning GPS (n95) into it doesn't mean it will work, that im going to use it or that i want to pay for it.

If you are DRM free then go for it, hope you have fun and it works as advertised. I'll wait for the next iPhone update.