The level of Apple fanboyism in these comments is off the scale.
In the end everyone copies from each other at some point. Personally I don't think Win7 resembles OSX much but that's just my opinion.
Also to pre-empt any snarky Apple fan spinning that opinion into something negative I don't think that it being dissimilar is a bad thing. Windows has its perks over OSX and vice versa, neither is unanimously superior so get over your damn god-OS complexes already. #windows7mac
@Odin: As someone who almost exclusively uses Apple products, I couldn't agree more. These kinds of borrowing elements from one to another are pretty much inevitable. It can only benefit the consumer that these companies understand what the customer likes and doesn't like and try to implement the best options available to the user. I also don't think W7 looks much like OS X, and the elements that do seem to be implemented better. I think a lot of this bashing W7 is to make Mac fanboys feel as if their OS is so superior that everyone copies it, meanwhile Snow Leopard doesn't appear to have so much revolutionary appeal to it. #windows7mac
@s8ist:
Unfortunately the majority (or at least the vocal majority) of Apple users sees OSX as their Messiah and defend it zealously. Anyone who doesn't worship it is a heathen and an idiot. It's a stupid way to think. There's no perfect OS, OSX has its flaws just like everything else.
You use what you like or what suits you, just because you like it doesn't automatically invalidate the competition. I'm primarily a Windows user, always have been and probably always will. Why? It's not because I believe Windows is the saviour of all mankind and Microsoft can do no wrong and that Apple is the devil. It's because it suits the things I do with my computer and I like it. As a gamer and a .NET developer I just can't see myself using anything else as my primary system.
I don't hate OSX because I don't use it. I don't think it's bad because it doesn't suit what I do. It's definitely a comparable OS but it's not incredibly better than what I currently use.
The level of Apple fanboyism out there though borders on zealotry and it's crazy sometimes. I mean before I came to Giz I thought Windows users ragging on Mac users were bad. Turns out the reverse is a whole lot worse. I can barely bring myself to look at any of the comments on Microsoft articles on Giz because they're just filled with seething hatred and bias.
Take the recent article on the Microsoft Courier. I found it to be an attractive interesting looking gadget, well worth my interest. When I looked at the comments though, the majority were just about how Microsoft sucked and how the Apple tablet Courier.
It's bizarre. I personally couldn't give two shits about the Apple tablet right now. Why? Because it's an Apple product? No! Because it doesn't even have a substantial existance. All it is right now is a bunch of fan made concept images, a couple of patents and a smattering of rumours on the wind. It's a freaking phantom of a product. Yet there are people out there willing to call an interesting and infinitely more substantial device rubbish because of it. It's mind blowing.
This is directly addressing any over zealous Apple fanboy that reads this:
I've since reconsidered the thing I dislike most about Apple (that's not to say that I hate Apple, I just have things I don't like about them and this is one of them), and it's the fanboys. Your close mindedness, ass kissery and superiority complexes bring not only shame upon yourselves as human beings but shame upon the company and products you adore. Congratulations, you're a plague upon what you like most. Morons. #windows7mac
@Odin: I largely agree. I think this whole thing as approaching a commensalism argument. In most things, if something is demonstrably superior in function it tends to be adopted universally. When M-B introduced antilock brakes on their S-class (lo these many years ago), everyone else scrambled to adopt the technology. Where they copying Mercedes? No, it just works better. I've had Mac and PC machines for years, and the OS's are becoming more and more similar. As the evolution continues, any differences between them will be largely cosmetic. Human function determines OS function, not the other way around. And whether you use Apple or MS, we're all (most of us) human. #windows7mac
I don't see the problem of emulating Mac OS graphics. 7 still runs great for a fraction of the cost, and now with a similar eye candy shell.
mmmm... taste the savings. #windows7mac
@imTheKing: Let me proverbially 'spell' this reasonably simple situation out for you. A Windows 7 based system, that is a computer running the new Microsoft Windows operating system (or OS), is much more affordable to purchase (using certified tender or a trade of tangible value) than its respective Apple counterpart running the Snow Leopard OS. Furthermore, I do not see any problem with Microsoft visual designers incorporating Apple's eye friendly graphics into Microsoft's graphic user interface (or GUI) as most products in todays markets are an eclectic mix of competing companies previous ideas.
In the future if you find you are having trouble with tech speak, jargon or acronyms please feel free to visit the following site: [www.netlingo.com]
Otherwise to keep from looking foolish in front of the tech savvy community here at Giz I would humbly suggest not posting and simply enjoying the content. Lastly, this is a rhetorical adresment and any attempt to 'out-wit', 'grammatically correct', 'rebuttal', or 'debate' will result in your own further embarrassment.
@Michai: And to keep you from looking foolish it would help if you didn't make words up (adresment)
Or at least follow the accepted spelling of the word from which it derives. Thus, even though addressment is still not a word, it is how it would be spelt if it were.
It is not enough to assert that any attempt to 'out'-wit', 'grammatically correct' etc., will result in further embarrassment when you, yourself, make errors.
A little hint: those little red dots underneath a word indicate a spelling error. #windows7mac
@Michai: You need to get up on the times. Your myth of PC's being cheaper is fake. Did you miss that article in Gizmodo? How about the one in PC Mag or CPU Mag? Still didn't read it? There's one on the NYT too. Let me know when your done spending time in the past. #windows7mac
@Kaiser-Machead: Meh.... Vista's fine now. A year ago, I'd totally agree with this statement, but I run a Vista machine I picked up early this summer and no problems whatsoever. Just turn off UAC and keep it updated and it's a prettier version of XP. #windows7mac
NEVER turn UAC off unless you're doing so for compatibility reasons. UAC is a good thing and turning it off makes your OS about as secure as XP (see: not at all)
And it was stable a year ago. The only thing that lead to instability in Vista were graphics cards and other poor driver sources. the NT6 kernel is INCREDIBLY stable. #windows7mac
@Thee Sea: Before you start pointing fingers at who's a moron...
UAC is good at keeping the computer illiterate from getting themselves into trouble. If you know what you're doing you're fine with it on a very low setting or out of the way completely.
My UAC has been off since day one and AV+Firewall+Common Sense has kept me out of harms way for years now.
@Thee Sea: UAC does nothing for security. Read recent threads about 8 of 10 viruses/trojans making it past UAC no problem (including Windows 7). UAC is not an effective security measure.
I believe Lifehacker had an article on this just today.
@Kerensky97:
You mean like how UAC completely mitigated conficker? Or how it mitigates drive-by driver installs that were embedded in flash applets that change enough that only heuristic scanners pick it up? Those same scanners that have a high false-positive rate? Those same applets that were on completely innocuous sites because they were embedded into a series of bad ads?
Common sense is not a good idea. UAC is more than just a prompt, it is an entire compatibility system, a security system and provides far more protection than you think. Not only that, but the article you linked? Yeah, the source actually didn't post any of their testing metric. #windows7mac
"Not only that, but the article you linked? Yeah, the source actually didn't post any of their testing metric."
It does not say the extent that the malware functioned, did it execute and do its thing in a virtualised environment? What was the functionality of each piece of software?
I never said that UAC replaces other methods, but turning it off is EXTREME foolishness. #windows7mac
@Thee Sea: How is it foolish? I have 3 PC's at my job that run vista, 2 on Windows 7, 3 PC's at home with Vista, and all have had UAC turned off since day one, with ZERO issues, and zero viruses (that weren't caught before they effected anything). Naturally I'm running other AV's and smarter than a majority of the click-happy world, but to say it is EXTREMELY foolish is just nonsense.
UAC is not a DEPENDABLE security feature. #windows7mac
@eatamez2: It is VERY dependable if you know what the hell it's supposed to do. It is not "magically make my computer never get a virus again"
And yes, it IS extremely foolish. Just because you have anecdotal evidence doesn't mean you're right. And when a drive-by is one of the most common virus distribution methods (and one that doesn't even require clicking and can be on otherwise safe sites), you don't have to be a "click-happy) user.
And when I say normally safe, I do mean safe. Wikia had a string of drive-by ads on their sites for a while. So did Wowhead.com and a few other gaming sites that rely on something other than internal ad placement. #windows7mac
Wow I Love the last 2-3 minutes of this video. Imagine you see Steve Jobs in SAMS CLUB trying to get you to sample some sausage..
Jobs: I present you the iSausage
Containing 93 per cent meat and seasoned with white pepper, nutmeg and ginger, it's a great advertisement for simplicity.It's a slightly Germanic-style sausage that would be great with braised cabbage or sauerkraut - and a nice cold German lager. There's also an unsmoked version. This can be found in the I-Aisle.
Special Introductory Price $9.99 per pound
This is a non-story if Segall won't tell us the name. He is an advertising guy and he knew he could get his name out with a "Job's made a mistake" story. He intentionally leaves us hanging, leaving us wanting more. Classic ad man move. I understand Giz has to cover this type of thing but I can't help but think this guy is playing this website for his own purposes. #imac
@The Lab: From the linked article:
""I’ve got some great emails from him," Segall says. "I might publish them one day, but he’ll never talk to me ever again.""
He's using this to push a book deal. He's good at this ad business. He just got an ad for free. #imac
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In the end everyone copies from each other at some point. Personally I don't think Win7 resembles OSX much but that's just my opinion.
Also to pre-empt any snarky Apple fan spinning that opinion into something negative I don't think that it being dissimilar is a bad thing. Windows has its perks over OSX and vice versa, neither is unanimously superior so get over your damn god-OS complexes already. #windows7mac
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Now, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I think that's something that we can all agree happened.
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Unfortunately the majority (or at least the vocal majority) of Apple users sees OSX as their Messiah and defend it zealously. Anyone who doesn't worship it is a heathen and an idiot. It's a stupid way to think. There's no perfect OS, OSX has its flaws just like everything else.
You use what you like or what suits you, just because you like it doesn't automatically invalidate the competition. I'm primarily a Windows user, always have been and probably always will. Why? It's not because I believe Windows is the saviour of all mankind and Microsoft can do no wrong and that Apple is the devil. It's because it suits the things I do with my computer and I like it. As a gamer and a .NET developer I just can't see myself using anything else as my primary system.
I don't hate OSX because I don't use it. I don't think it's bad because it doesn't suit what I do. It's definitely a comparable OS but it's not incredibly better than what I currently use.
The level of Apple fanboyism out there though borders on zealotry and it's crazy sometimes. I mean before I came to Giz I thought Windows users ragging on Mac users were bad. Turns out the reverse is a whole lot worse. I can barely bring myself to look at any of the comments on Microsoft articles on Giz because they're just filled with seething hatred and bias.
Take the recent article on the Microsoft Courier. I found it to be an attractive interesting looking gadget, well worth my interest. When I looked at the comments though, the majority were just about how Microsoft sucked and how the Apple tablet Courier.
It's bizarre. I personally couldn't give two shits about the Apple tablet right now. Why? Because it's an Apple product? No! Because it doesn't even have a substantial existance. All it is right now is a bunch of fan made concept images, a couple of patents and a smattering of rumours on the wind. It's a freaking phantom of a product. Yet there are people out there willing to call an interesting and infinitely more substantial device rubbish because of it. It's mind blowing.
This is directly addressing any over zealous Apple fanboy that reads this:
I've since reconsidered the thing I dislike most about Apple (that's not to say that I hate Apple, I just have things I don't like about them and this is one of them), and it's the fanboys. Your close mindedness, ass kissery and superiority complexes bring not only shame upon yourselves as human beings but shame upon the company and products you adore. Congratulations, you're a plague upon what you like most. Morons. #windows7mac
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mmmm... taste the savings. #windows7mac
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In the future if you find you are having trouble with tech speak, jargon or acronyms please feel free to visit the following site: [www.netlingo.com]
Otherwise to keep from looking foolish in front of the tech savvy community here at Giz I would humbly suggest not posting and simply enjoying the content. Lastly, this is a rhetorical adresment and any attempt to 'out-wit', 'grammatically correct', 'rebuttal', or 'debate' will result in your own further embarrassment.
-I'm not a bot Michai #windows7mac
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Or at least follow the accepted spelling of the word from which it derives. Thus, even though addressment is still not a word, it is how it would be spelt if it were.
It is not enough to assert that any attempt to 'out'-wit', 'grammatically correct' etc., will result in further embarrassment when you, yourself, make errors.
A little hint: those little red dots underneath a word indicate a spelling error. #windows7mac
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duh! he's a pagemaker, as everyone knows. #windows7mac
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NEVER turn UAC off unless you're doing so for compatibility reasons. UAC is a good thing and turning it off makes your OS about as secure as XP (see: not at all)
And it was stable a year ago. The only thing that lead to instability in Vista were graphics cards and other poor driver sources. the NT6 kernel is INCREDIBLY stable. #windows7mac
11/11/09
UAC is good at keeping the computer illiterate from getting themselves into trouble. If you know what you're doing you're fine with it on a very low setting or out of the way completely.
My UAC has been off since day one and AV+Firewall+Common Sense has kept me out of harms way for years now.
[blogs.zdnet.com]
[lifehacker.com] #windows7mac
11/11/09
I believe Lifehacker had an article on this just today.
Yeap, here it is. [lifehacker.com]
Middle of the page. So let's not call people morons unless you know what you're talking about. That's just uncalled for. #windows7mac
11/11/09
You mean like how UAC completely mitigated conficker? Or how it mitigates drive-by driver installs that were embedded in flash applets that change enough that only heuristic scanners pick it up? Those same scanners that have a high false-positive rate? Those same applets that were on completely innocuous sites because they were embedded into a series of bad ads?
Common sense is not a good idea. UAC is more than just a prompt, it is an entire compatibility system, a security system and provides far more protection than you think. Not only that, but the article you linked? Yeah, the source actually didn't post any of their testing metric. #windows7mac
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"Not only that, but the article you linked? Yeah, the source actually didn't post any of their testing metric."
It does not say the extent that the malware functioned, did it execute and do its thing in a virtualised environment? What was the functionality of each piece of software?
I never said that UAC replaces other methods, but turning it off is EXTREME foolishness. #windows7mac
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UAC is not a DEPENDABLE security feature. #windows7mac
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And yes, it IS extremely foolish. Just because you have anecdotal evidence doesn't mean you're right. And when a drive-by is one of the most common virus distribution methods (and one that doesn't even require clicking and can be on otherwise safe sites), you don't have to be a "click-happy) user.
And when I say normally safe, I do mean safe. Wikia had a string of drive-by ads on their sites for a while. So did Wowhead.com and a few other gaming sites that rely on something other than internal ad placement. #windows7mac
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LOL #imac
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Jobs: I present you the iSausage
Containing 93 per cent meat and seasoned with white pepper, nutmeg and ginger, it's a great advertisement for simplicity.It's a slightly Germanic-style sausage that would be great with braised cabbage or sauerkraut - and a nice cold German lager. There's also an unsmoked version. This can be found in the I-Aisle.
Special Introductory Price $9.99 per pound
Guy can sell anything... #imac
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""I’ve got some great emails from him," Segall says. "I might publish them one day, but he’ll never talk to me ever again.""
He's using this to push a book deal. He's good at this ad business. He just got an ad for free. #imac
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Thank you, Matt, for sparing us the maiming. #imac
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