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Gary_7vn
11/14/09

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I've always thought burning real holes, with a high powered laser into stainless steel disks would be a good way to archive important data.

Nobody would have to actually play these disks anyway, just read the data. #1000yeardvds
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Gary_7vn
11/14/09

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I always hear that canard "will we even be able to read it in x years? "
I think that would be pretty simple for any civilization 1000 years more advanced than us. #1000yeardvds
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RainyDayInterns
11/15/09

@Gary_7vn: uh... it took a while for us to relearn how to decipher the Mayan writings. Who is to say that the languages of today will even be understood a 1000 years from now?

Just because one is more "advanced" does not mean one will be able to deal with "old tech." Fixed any vacuum tube stereos lately? #1000yeardvds
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ninjamurf
11/16/09

@RainyDayInterns: But the Mayans didn't have manuals or any type of storage devices. You may not be able to fix a vacuum tube stereo but I'm sure there's a manual for them somewhere that can be accessed. All it would take is for someone to WANT to fix one. We haven't lost the ability or the knowledge, just the need. Pretty much everything from the 1960's onward will be stored in some way shape or form for future generations. That is the point that the human race is at now. For someone 1000 years in the future to read a CD/DVD all they would have to do it pull up the schematics of a DVD player and build one. I bet they'd actually be pretty cheap in 3009. So yes, we have actually become "advanced" enough to not have to worry about "old tech" anymore. It's become trivial to replicate if there's a need. #1000yeardvds
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RainyDayInterns
11/18/09

@ninjamurf: big stone blocks = pretty stable storage.

We are losing knowledge which are irretrievable all the time as ...most Apollo design decisions were never documented. As those engineers die, the details when with them.

Thinking we are "advance" enough about "anything" is just folly.
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ninjamurf
11/19/09

@RainyDayInterns: Have you tried putting all the current knowledge of your civilization into big stone blocks? Doesn't matter how stable it is if it's not "easy". Today we can have the entire library of congress on a thumb drive.

And I'm not sure why we need the "Apollo design decisions"? We have better designers today, who learned from those designers anyway. Are you thinking that someone is going to want to rebuild an Apollo craft? We can do that, but, again, there is just no need.

And thinking that we are NOT advanced enough to deal with "old tech" just sounds silly? Same for thinking that we won't be able to read a CD a thousand years from now. Information is now created and shared on a world wide basis every day. The redundancy that we have now is just ridiculous. Something that wasn't happening with the Mayans.
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mwhite66
11/14/09

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There a lots and lots of 1000 year old books around that are still perfectly readable. Ink and paper can last a long time. On the other hand, at work we have Apollo tape cartridges from 1990 that are unreadable; the tape drives are no longer available. Makes you think. #1000yeardvds
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Gary_7vn
11/14/09

@mwhite66: Yes, that's true, but if someone really wanted to retrieve those data, assuming that it is intact could rig up a reader pdq. Not really a big deal. #1000yeardvds
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Kaiser-Machead
11/14/09

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The best part is that 1,000, technologically, might as well be millions, so before optical media even reaches 100 years, we'd probably have little reason to use it. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind being taken in by this snake oil disc.
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Raidah
11/14/09

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I know of a method that can preserve data for 5000 years or more:

Stone Carving #1000yeardvds
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Kaiser-Machead
11/14/09

@Raidah: Avoid carving your data into a limestone. Won't last long. #1000yeardvds
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Michai
11/14/09

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I would like a 80mm mini CD version to put into my lead lined titanium urn along with a air tight vile of blood and some other notable scraps. I always thought a data disk with a bunch of info and files would be great for my future generations to enjoy. I know I like to look through my great grandparents things. It may sound morbid but hell we all die, may as well plan for it ; /
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j05hu4
11/14/09

@Michai: Everybody will be amused and shocked by your cached internet history files. #1000yeardvds
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Michai
11/14/09

@j05hu4: lol, I was thinking more towards family pictures, important documents and my digital art. But it might be interesting to hide a folder containing my porn collection.

"..and here Jimmy is your great great granddads art work, and whats this.... oh dear god!"

"mommy why were those naked people wrestling?" #1000yeardvds
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jayhawk11 owns property now!!!
11/14/09

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Great for immortalizing your porn collection, I guess. #1000yeardvds
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Software_Goddess
11/14/09

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I’m thinking "So what." We all know that a few years down the line someone is going to come up with an even more efficient form of data storage, and these disks will be obsolete. All I can think of when I see this, is the boxes of VHS tapes I have sitting in the garage. #1000yeardvds
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B-low
11/14/09

@Software_Goddess: Homemade movies *wink*? #1000yeardvds
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Software_Goddess
11/14/09

@B-low: Some of them

;-) #1000yeardvds
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GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE
11/14/09

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Finally, we will now no longer have worry that a copy of "Spice World" won't survive to show future generations how to be their lovers. #1000yeardvds
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B-low
11/14/09

@GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee: I think the one in the middle is Emma Bunton.
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GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE
11/14/09

@B-low: I'm a Mel C. fan. Sorry. #1000yeardvds
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B-low
11/14/09

@GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee: Don't be sorry we're all mistaken from time to time :) #1000yeardvds
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Calzo
11/14/09

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I assume they tested this? #1000yeardvds
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Arken
11/14/09

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"We believe ancient people used these large, shiny disks as ceremonial earrings and necklaces to celebrate their god known as D'v'd. The metal clasps which held them have long since corroded." #1000yeardvds
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Platypus Man
11/14/09

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Yeah, I have a feeling that, even if we still had DVD players in 1000 years, optical media isn't how you'd want to store your things over the next millennium... #1000yeardvds
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