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XavieraEspizzo
04/07/09

In reply to HP Pavilion DV2 Laptop Now Available At A Svelte $749
It's a really cool idea to fill the 10" to 13.3" laptop area. I've been personally looking at that size for some time. The current options tend to be vastly expensive. *Drools as he looks at Lenovo X200* The only real problem (more of a nit pick) is that they're apparently using an older AMD processor. Not a big problem but the newer chips consume less power and are more powerful (supposedly). I've always been more of a Intel fan so I don't really watch to much at the latest AMD chips (and too much Left 4 Dead to play). AMD said that they were to upgrade to newer chips. Even with the older, cheaper chips it's still nice to see something new and interesting in the laptop market.
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sd180
04/07/09

@XavieraEspizzo: it's not an older processor. It's actually one of AMD's newest processor; definitely AMD's newest line of processors. the Neo line is suppose to compete with Intel Atom processors- only, they're suppose to multi task a little better. Thus, running vista and not xp.
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regnez
04/07/09

@sd180:

You're right and wrong. Yes, Neo is AMDs newest line of mobile processors. No, it's not going to compete with Atom, at least not yet.

Neo uses (literally) 6-7 times the amount of power - and produces that much more heat - than Atom. Atom was never really intended to be used as a full-fledged notebook processor; Intel's goal was, and still is, to get it (and the x86 instruction set) into smartphones. Then along came netbooks and screwed everything up, particularly Intel's profits - Atom is not exactly a high-margin piece of kit for Intel.

On paper, and most likely in real life, Neo is much faster than Atom. Neo was designed for ultra-thin notebooks, not smartphones, from the start.
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ZLevee
04/07/09

@regnez: The Neo is intended to target a market slightly above the netbook/Atom market. It's going to be compared to the Atom a lot but AMD didn't attempt to design for those power/heat/performance standards. Better performance with a tradeoff on heat and power consumption is fine for systems this size.
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daftrok
04/07/09

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I like it, but really an internal optical drive would have been nice because predominantly you'd be using it to watch DVDs. But given the HUGE hard drive in this thing, I doubt that would be much of a problem.
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MagicMT
04/07/09

@daftrok:

"· SuperMulti 8x DVD+/-R/RW Drive with Double Layer Support"
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regnez
04/07/09

@MagicMT:

You do realize what internal means, right?
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ZLevee
04/07/09

@regnez: If he didn't watch the video he wouldn't know it's external. I didn't see it obviously stated in the text on HP's site.

@daftrok: I agree, would have been nice.
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regnez
04/07/09

@ZLevee:

In the "Overview" (the first page when you click the link):

"• Watch movies using the external double-layer DVD±R/RW drive with LightScribe"

And at the bottom of the Overview, under "What's in the box?"

• External optical drive
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ZLevee
04/07/09

@regnez: YEah I saw it, I'm saying it's not obvious. What kind of gadget person read an overview? You go right to the specs and expect the specs to tell you if it's external, which they don't.
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The Illuminator
04/07/09

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Boundlessly superior to the macbook air and boundlessly cheaper.
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cash907
04/07/09

@sephirothis666:

So far it's getting shitty benchmark scores, and it runs hotter then a raped ape. It has double the ram of an NC10, but only scores 400 points higher in PC Mark Vantage. The only department it seems to do well in is video, thanks to it's Radeon 3410 with 512megs ram, scoring 3735 and 1448 in 3DMark03 and 3DMark06, respectively. Besides, the damn thing is huge compared to other 12 inchers already on the market.
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KEVINMC
04/07/09

@cash907:

The AMD probably handicapped the benchmark. This thing would have been a screamer for a 12 inch if they had put an intel in it. Still, even a 400 point gain doesn't seem too bad if you are just talking a ram upgrade.

Hehe...hotter than a raped ape. I like that.
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ZLevee
04/07/09

@KEVINMC: That AMD chip outperfoms the atom, which is what AMD was targeting.
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ZLevee
04/07/09

@ZLevee: correction: I meant AMD was aiming for a market above the Intel Atom, not that it was trying to match the Atom. In any case, the main point is the same -- this chip outperforms the Atom.
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