Nokia's West Coast US headquarters is about five minutes from my house. I always wonder what they're doing in the that huge building, since their phones are mostly off the radar here in the US, except with the geek crowd.
Very interesting. We here over at the other side of the Atlantic sometimes tend to think that America has all the best things, but it turns out that's not really the case. Anyway, I find the remark about AIM being popular in Israel a bit puzzling: to the best of my knowledge, both MSN and ICQ are much more popular. I once knew a girl who used Yahoo messenger, but I got her to switch to MSN... I think the reasons for both apps' popularity is that in the late 90's most Israeli's had Hotmail (which got you MSN) and also ICQ started out as an Israeli company.
Personally i prefer Gtalk, but since not many of my friends are willing to let go of their other clients, i use Digsby to stay in touch.
still, good reading!
@MadCrazy: I'm assuming that this stems from the "Technological superpower" comment. Grimace as much as you like from across the pond, it's not an exaggeration.
I adored my Minidisc player. It had fantastic battery life, was immune to skipping, unlike Discmans, and was pretty easy to use (I thought). I think I still have one laying around here somewhere. My particular model was cheap, and didn't use rechargeable batteries, but on a single AA, it could go almost all week long.
+1 I have the same model, sitting in my bedside table, waiting for a run. Of course I will never install that god-aweful sony software again, so i'm stuck with the music I listened to in 8th/10th grade.
@snoob: I made random mixes with Simple Burn rather than use Sonic Stage with the MD utility. It didn't plant the names into the files, but I never really paid much attention to file names when the extent of the GUI was just a small black and grey LCD.
The only problem I see with Mobil TV is we drive more than other countries do. We can't handle talking on the phone and driving, just picture someone getting lost in an episode of "As the World Turns" while trying to merge.
@WhatStockMarket?_GitEmSteveDave: I was thinking the same thing.. except the fact that everyone and their dog has a huge HDTV now, so people prefer to watch tv and relax in front of a big screen, rather than sit in traffic and squint at the latest episode of the Office.
Mobile TV sounds really interesting. The only foreseeable problem for us getting it is if the shows consume bandwidth. With the caps setting in that would run it up quickly.
The Mini-disc sounds great. You'd think it'd be the next logical step from CD's (like DVD's to Blu-ray).
This was a good list and I thought everything fit but the next gen messaging. There is not one person I know who doesn't use Windows Live/Msn messenger. Most have never heard of AIM
@kylo4iskyle4: mobileTV can only matter in the US in the cities with thriving middle class public transportation. Of course, there a are a few huge cities with just that, so once the DTV transition takes hold, maybe some Mobile TV love starts happening.
@tmed: Make that thriving above-ground middle-class public transportation. I imagine the NYC subway system is deep enough at some points that the signals wouldn't be able to pierce down through all the dirt and concrete without underground repeaters being set up.
Seriously? Outdated? What outdated Laserdisc a minute after they came out? VHS? DVD's were barely a pipe dream at this point. MD's weren't outclassed until MP3 players came out.
There's a difference between "Outdated" and "sold miserably in North America". Both techs were technologically superior to anything available.
@Reapman: Laserdiscs had several problems that kept it from going anywhere in the US. VHS prices had finally hit the point where they were readily affordable by the masses, and then LD shows up with the return of $100-per-title pricing. That's okay for a seriously blown-out special edition, but not for general releases.
The discs themselves were huge and cumbersome, which makes disc-killing scratches a persistent danger. And given theose sky-high prices, and the fact that these came stored in sleeves rather than proper cases, it was a tough pill to swallow for most people.
Short runtimes were a mood-killer. Where DVD can get a movie that runs over three hours on a single dual-layer read surface, and VHS could handle about 2.5 hours on an extra-long tape, laserdiscs could only fit about half an hour per side (the extended edition of Lord of the Rings would require 13 double-sided LDs, and that's just for the movies w/ audio commentaries...and buying TV series on LD would require special high-strength flooring).
Finally (and I witnessed this first-hand), the sheer size and weight of these discs created problems that most DVD-owners simply aren't aware of. I had a college film class where the professor rented a laserdisc title out of Chicago. Imagine his (and our) surprise when he stepped up in front of the class and pulled the laserdisc out of the sleeve...to find a hole the size of a quarter punched through the the read surface. Yeah, all that extra weight and size makes it a lot easier to cause catastrophic incidental damage.
In addition to all of those things, I suspect that, due to skipping problems that aren't as much of an issue on DVDs, Laserdiscs were probably set up for a read profile similar to a vinyl record, where you start at one point and simply read in a spiral until the track ends. Put a scratch on the disc, and it's like dropping a brick in the path of ants that are returning to the nest. DVDs split the data up into chunks that are non-adjacent, so even if you lose one chunk, a good player can simply skip to the next one.
I remember back when I was about 10 y/o or so and saw my first LD player I asked, "can you record on it?" When I found out that the answer was "no", I didn't want one anymore.
Despite relative low quality with VHS, the fact is that you just had to buy one machine to both play videos from the store and to record your own (and to play back home movies, too).
And remember the quality of the average TV back then? It wasn't exactly killer, and so comparing VHS to Laserdisc wasn't quite so dramatic. (I'm talking about the average home here, not the videophile's home theater).
I can do/did without all of these except Instant Message, which I would go crazy without. I even message myself notes and reminders from me@work to me@home and vice versa.
Watching TV on a portable device is very overrated. Real usage in Europe shows that very very few people use the function after the novelty effect wears off.
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And I would love to have the e-wallet here.
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Personally i prefer Gtalk, but since not many of my friends are willing to let go of their other clients, i use Digsby to stay in touch.
still, good reading!
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@MadCrazy: I'm assuming that this stems from the "Technological superpower" comment. Grimace as much as you like from across the pond, it's not an exaggeration.
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+1 I have the same model, sitting in my bedside table, waiting for a run. Of course I will never install that god-aweful sony software again, so i'm stuck with the music I listened to in 8th/10th grade.
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The Mini-disc sounds great. You'd think it'd be the next logical step from CD's (like DVD's to Blu-ray).
This was a good list and I thought everything fit but the next gen messaging. There is not one person I know who doesn't use Windows Live/Msn messenger. Most have never heard of AIM
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Make that thriving above-ground middle-class public transportation. I imagine the NYC subway system is deep enough at some points that the signals wouldn't be able to pierce down through all the dirt and concrete without underground repeaters being set up.
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Seriously? Outdated? What outdated Laserdisc a minute after they came out? VHS? DVD's were barely a pipe dream at this point. MD's weren't outclassed until MP3 players came out.
There's a difference between "Outdated" and "sold miserably in North America". Both techs were technologically superior to anything available.
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Laserdiscs had several problems that kept it from going anywhere in the US. VHS prices had finally hit the point where they were readily affordable by the masses, and then LD shows up with the return of $100-per-title pricing. That's okay for a seriously blown-out special edition, but not for general releases.
The discs themselves were huge and cumbersome, which makes disc-killing scratches a persistent danger. And given theose sky-high prices, and the fact that these came stored in sleeves rather than proper cases, it was a tough pill to swallow for most people.
Short runtimes were a mood-killer. Where DVD can get a movie that runs over three hours on a single dual-layer read surface, and VHS could handle about 2.5 hours on an extra-long tape, laserdiscs could only fit about half an hour per side (the extended edition of Lord of the Rings would require 13 double-sided LDs, and that's just for the movies w/ audio commentaries...and buying TV series on LD would require special high-strength flooring).
Finally (and I witnessed this first-hand), the sheer size and weight of these discs created problems that most DVD-owners simply aren't aware of. I had a college film class where the professor rented a laserdisc title out of Chicago. Imagine his (and our) surprise when he stepped up in front of the class and pulled the laserdisc out of the sleeve...to find a hole the size of a quarter punched through the the read surface. Yeah, all that extra weight and size makes it a lot easier to cause catastrophic incidental damage.
In addition to all of those things, I suspect that, due to skipping problems that aren't as much of an issue on DVDs, Laserdiscs were probably set up for a read profile similar to a vinyl record, where you start at one point and simply read in a spiral until the track ends. Put a scratch on the disc, and it's like dropping a brick in the path of ants that are returning to the nest. DVDs split the data up into chunks that are non-adjacent, so even if you lose one chunk, a good player can simply skip to the next one.
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I remember back when I was about 10 y/o or so and saw my first LD player I asked, "can you record on it?" When I found out that the answer was "no", I didn't want one anymore.
Despite relative low quality with VHS, the fact is that you just had to buy one machine to both play videos from the store and to record your own (and to play back home movies, too).
And remember the quality of the average TV back then? It wasn't exactly killer, and so comparing VHS to Laserdisc wasn't quite so dramatic. (I'm talking about the average home here, not the videophile's home theater).
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Maybe a find/replace is in order?
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MSN/AIM/ICQ...who gives a fuck, get Trillian.
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