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    Image of frigg frigg
    07/14/09

    In reply to Four New Logitech Speaker Sets Feature 360-Degree Sound
    sound becomes more directional at higher frequencies. That's why if you stand in front of a speaker, you hear everything it delivers, and as you move to the side, higher frequencies increasingly drop out. Low frequencies are omni by nature, high frequencies are directional by nature.



    I'm not sure how these purport to work, but for truly omnidirectional sound at higher frequencies, you'd need to cover the space with multiple drivers, spraying listeners with sound waves the way those fancy showers spray water on every crevice and curve of your body from multiple faucets. Yamaha created an experimental audio lab that achieved this by peppering the walls and ceilings with recessed drivers. It mimicked the omnidirectional way sound arrives in real life, from all directions.
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    07/14/09

    In reply to Four New Logitech Speaker Sets Feature 360-Degree Sound
    These are technically bi-polar speakers. A true Omni (Duevel, German Physiks, MBL) doesn't use front and rear facing drivers firing in-phase. That's the definition of bi-polar. Omnis either use uber-sophisticated devices that vibrate in true 360 degrees like a Walsh style driver, or they use conventional drivers firing vertically with some type of wave guide as in the Duevels, Mirages, etc.



    While its true that most Omnis cannot image quite as precisely as a forward radiator, they do just about everything else better, and they are much closer to live music in an acoustic space. Most of the energy from live instruments arrives after bouncing off the walls, and this is what Omnis recreate. Try an MBL 101E, and see if you can go back to a direct radiator after that.
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    07/14/09

    In reply to Four New Logitech Speaker Sets Feature 360-Degree Sound
    Isn't this so-called "360 degree sound" the antithesis of what you want in sound reproduction, at least as presented here? A proper speaker configuration, from a simple stereo pair to a full-blown 7.1 setup, helps your ears locate with pinpoint spatial accuracy where within the sound stage the various distinct sound sources—such as the vocalist or the guitar or whatever—are located. Doesn't something like this totally blur or subvert that spatial stage?



    To be fair, I'd have to audition these to see what they really do (and also would have to keep in mind their relatively low-cost purposes). Still, this sounds (sorry) like total marketing BS.
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    07/14/09

    @bosskev:

    I don't believe omnidrectional speakers are intended for the accurate reporoduction of positioning; they're for providing even quality audio throughout an area.



    It's like if Spiderman and Venom wanted to give people music. Spiderman would be fair and give the same amount of music to everybody because he's a swell guy. Venom, on the other hand, would give it all to one person in incredible detail. The only difference is, Venom would probably kill the listener whereas a 7.1 setup wouldn't.



    Hopefully these truly provide the same sound effect as other more expensive omnidirectional speakers.
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    07/15/09

    @aZn sensaZn: Spiderman and Venom as competing sound reproduction technologies. Lets hope all your explanations are as entertaining!
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    02/15/09

    In reply to The Simpsons Goes HD For the First Time Tonight
    @Daelen Beamont: Woah. You know, facebooker, it's people like you that make me hate the internet. You hide behind the anonymity it provides to treat other people horribly, because there's very little chance that andham can find you and smack you.


    @thirty6chambers: And as for you, some of us watch knowing full well that the current episode will most likely not achieve the genius that previous episodes such as the monorail one have, but know that every once in a while, there will come a joke that is fifty times better than anything on Big Bang Theory, or Hot Wife With Fat Guy Show #20. So take your Wu-Tang listening ass somewhere else.

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    02/16/09

    @badhatharry: The sad irony here is that the facebooker is actually less anonymous than you, Mr. Internet Tough Guy. You know his name and how he posted here, and that's enough information to find out a lot about him.
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    02/16/09

    @shiftyeyedgoat: Do we REALLY know his name? According to Facebook, my name is Steve Davidson. Guess what? Not my real name. The only thing that's real on facebook is my picture. I always portray myself in my avatars.
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    02/16/09

    @SparkleMotion_GitEmSteveDave: I maintain that anyone sad enough to create a fake facebook has no business on the site; you're better suited for myspace. Facebook's official policy, and sometimes law echo this sentiment.


    It should've been kept closed to college students/graduates.


    @badhatharry: I know you're not, but the irony of the situation presented itself so nicely. I almost wish you had been bashing him, as it might've been a perfect case of irony/hypocrisy.

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    02/17/09

    @shiftyeyedgoat: Yeah, I know I was walking a fine line there.
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    How exactly do you hit the open key on your keyboard if your laptop is closed?
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    Not quite the M. Night Shyamalan twist I was hoping for.
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    This sounds suspiciously like a hoax. What sort of WiFi device would you get for $20? It doesn't even seem like $20 will cover the RAM alone, or a monitor, or any combination of components that make a functional computer.
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    Mark, I don't know how to say it nicely so I'll just come out and say it.


    Your keyboard looks like shit. Seriously. It's like Dvorak for Retards. Or, if you will, Dvorak for Dvorak. Why the hell do you have five keys for the same damn thing? Shop and buy? And "HP Trivia"?! Why not a key that reads "Chair goes 'round" and one that says "I Like Pie".


    The only thing that surprises me is that a keyboard that screwed up doesn't have separate keys for uppercase and lowercase letters.


    Here's a quarter - buy yourself a new helmet.

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    02/03/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: yeah, well, when you see what happens when you hit Open+delete+kitten, you might just be changing your tune
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    02/03/09

    @lpranal: We do not delete kittens.
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    02/03/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: Have you recently been reading Maddox's article where he grades children's art?
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    02/03/09

    @ceilingFANBOY: LOVE THAT! My old boss had some of his kids' drawings in his office. I couldn't look at the drawings without snickering.
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    But MJ DID play baseball with some kids dad at some point. RIP #45
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    02/03/09

    @GHETTO.CHiLD: #45? How about #23, the number he made famous?
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    I think the name of the device intimately describes what this product really is that you purchase for $20.
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    02/03/09

    @Lite: must go faster.: I still can't believe they named it that. I know, I know cross-cultural blah-blah, but still...
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    Image of ManekiNeko ManekiNeko
    02/03/09

    @Gilbert: You guys DO remember the Wii, right?
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    02/04/09

    @ManekiNeko: And I still can't believe they named it that either...
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    So, it's a bag of poo?
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    Image of Navin R Johnson Navin R Johnson
    02/03/09

    @combat chuck: EXACTLY what I was thinking.


    This is like when Chevy figured out why Nova sales were so low in Mexico, Nova means "no go" in Spanish.


    They should have done a bit more research on the name Crapsack or Sakshit or whatever.

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    02/03/09

    @Navin R Johnson: Great, now I have to be the dickhead that points out that poor Nova sales in Spanish-speaking markets is a myth.
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    02/03/09

    @Navin R Johnson: Have you ever heard the story why the mitsubishi pajero sold so badly in spanish speaking countries?
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    02/03/09

    @William_III_Earl_of_Dastardshi...: Pajero? Why not, I bought a Wii..
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    02/03/09

    In reply to India's $10 Sakshat Laptop "Announcement" Is a Complete Bust
    i wish i had a 10 key on my keyboard
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    02/03/09

    @likefry_likefry: The hamster key is enough for me. I'm putting my preorder in.
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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    02/03/09

    @likefry_likefry:


    Seriously, why don't they have keys for every number?

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    02/03/09

    @likefry_likefry: Personally, I'm wondering what the "Hippospace" key does.
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    02/03/09

    @Ubik2501: It lets you travel in Hippospace, which is even faster than hyperspace.


    Hippospace wormholes can swallow whole galaxies. Watch out for hungry, hungry hippospace.

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