@blash: Would LOVE to shoot a Leica- although, on safari, FILM is not something I wanna lug around. 40 pics, at most, per roll? No- I'll do digital with thousands per card, tyvm. Plus do-overs.
Yeah, Leica's rocked... like Elvis in the '50's... #leicam7hermes
@Turbo Driver: Uh huh, you'll have do overs in the savanna when you miss that cheetah rippin' out the gazelle's jugular. Or when the elephant lets out a mighty trumpet and starts charging after you. Get real - there are no do-overs.
Oh and I'm sure that out of those 9,000 photos you took on a DSLR, not even 10% of them were acceptable for actual use, not to mention the time you need to spend out-of-camera tweaking the color and whatnot in Photoshop. With Velvia, it's great right out of the camera - amazing colors on a light table.
Again... actually go out, shoot a Leica (or hell, just shoot some proper-quality film like Velvia), THEN come back here to lambast film (and Leica). #leicam7hermes
@blash: Geez! Fanboys of the old school strike back! I've shot Velvia before, among other slide films, and I will agree with you that the richness of the image is second to none. However, it's still a slide... which means it deteriorates with time, takes space to store, is inconvenient to view or share with friends and you can't manipulate it afterward (unless you spend time scanning it in, and photoshopping out the dust specks). For these reasons, I'll take a pretty nice DSLR over a ultra-posh film camera any day of any week.
I will say though, this camera looks like a bajillion dollars... so damn pretty. And yes, there's still a lot to be said for slide film. I'm waiting for some camera manufacturer or enterprising software designer to come up with a way to emulate the color characteristics and behavior of slides for a RAW file. I know it has to be possible. How sweet would it be to have a list of your favorite films and be able to choose a grain and color profile on the fly to suit your objectives for a given shot? I think someday we will be able to have it both ways. Fujifilm should hire some crack software designers and get on that one. #leicam7hermes
@gloveofpower: There are Velvia profiles for Photoshop but it's not the same.
When digital beats film both on exposure latitude and on color, I will entirely dump my film equipment. But even then, film will still have a greater advantage over digital. Being able to spread out a ton of slides over a light table and be able to instantly gloss over each one at full detail is not something you can do with even a 30" 2560x1600 display. #leicam7hermes
@blash: Hmm, I wasn't aware that someone had tried this already. I'm going to go google that now... and I'm guessing you're probably right, it probably isn't the same. But I hope that as the years pass, digital emulation of the charms and quirks of analog equipment will continue to become more and more true to the original. I work a lot in the audio realm and the same is true there. There's tons and tons of folks out there who adore the warmth of analog but crave the convenience of digital. I think with enough persistence and time, the two will converge. We are witnessing the beginnings now, and it's exciting to see this technological shift.
As for light tables versus viewing software, I'm sure there's got to be something out there that would suit your desires in the digital realm, at least in terms of displaying a large amount of thumbnails and the ability to view them full size at snappy speeds. However, if part of what you meant included the appeal of the tactile experience of moving slides with your hand and using a loupe to magnify them, then yeah, there is nothing out there like that for digital. Maybe when a product like microsoft surface becomes more available/advanced... and a person like yourself starts vocally demanding a nice interface to emulate the feel of a light table. That would be pretty awesome. =)
@gloveofpower: Well put. Hopefully someday digital approximations of an analog curve can approach an accuracy that crosses being able to perceive a difference with a naked eye; and furthermore can be applied with efficiency to in-the-field capture and presentation solutions.
If you buy one of these you've got a serious problem...and did I mention I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell? Extremely rare. The property even matches your shoes. #leicam7hermes
@npd33: The photos themselves are much more reliant upon the film you use - i.e. great results can be had with either a $60 used consumer Nikon SLR or with a Leica. The glass makes a difference, but there's good Nikon glass and good Leica glass.
The Leica difference is more one of feel - for one, you're carrying around a body with a lens more the size of your thumb than your forearm, and for two, nobody creates a mechanical experience like Leica does. Leicas are more about having fun shooting than they are about precision (which rangefinders suck at) and finesse, while still getting amazing results. #leicam7hermes
"Usually we don't bother with stupid-high-end gadget editions"
uhhhh... what? how many swarovski crystal encrusted iphone cases, billion dollar yachts, and other $10,000+ leicas have you profiled? Oh ya, all of them..
@Homerjay is utterly alone.: Leica rangefinders are always beautiful. Overpriced, but beautiful. There's something to be said for that Soviet era aesthetic. #leicam7hermes
@Nathan Obbards: Well... Hasselblads are medium format cameras, which tend to be considered "more" pro than 35mm cameras, so their higher price is justified.
What I don't understand is why they're using the M7 as the model for these special editions. If I were to get a classic rangefinder, I'd want it to be completely mechanical like the Leica MP. No need to worry about juice. #leicam7hermes
@DPYu: I dunno, the Leica M series has a long history of being used professionally and there are Magnum photographers who shoot exclusively with Leica, such as Bruce Gilden and, before moving to a cheap digital P&S, Alex Majoli. They tend to do limited production runs with whatever is the current camera of the day. It's a special edition, so it's going to be all bells and whistles. It's got batteries for the meter and I wouldn't be surprised if it had an a motor-winder built in as well.
@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: on the Titanic, he saved the life of the crew by going under the door and pushing the button to open the airlock. He should be a national hero! And they didn't even have to dress up like women and children to get an escape pod... #leicam7hermes
Lol fail. Micro USB is now the "accepted standard" for mobile phones not mini USB. Sendstation and Giz, shame on you. And €30, what? They think they're Apple or something?
I still have an original firewire version of this that i got when they randomly were giving them away for the cost of shipping. I hasn't been used once.
@ethanlechcharles: Firewire wasn't really a hassle for the first two gen iPods, obviously due to the built-in port. After the dock connector came in, though, I started to sense that FW was going to be dropped eventually for the iPods.
Anyways, did they make the port into a iLink one? Kind of useless, IMO.
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On a gadget blog? When was the last time ANY other maker put a FILM camera on here?
I got all 'cited bout a Leica digital camera coming out, and it turns out to be a FILM camera?
Who uses these things anymore? And for FOURTEEN LARGE for a FILM camera?
WTH?
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No?
Go shoot a safari with a Leica and some Velvia and then come back. #leicam7hermes
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Yeah, Leica's rocked... like Elvis in the '50's... #leicam7hermes
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Oh and I'm sure that out of those 9,000 photos you took on a DSLR, not even 10% of them were acceptable for actual use, not to mention the time you need to spend out-of-camera tweaking the color and whatnot in Photoshop. With Velvia, it's great right out of the camera - amazing colors on a light table.
Again... actually go out, shoot a Leica (or hell, just shoot some proper-quality film like Velvia), THEN come back here to lambast film (and Leica). #leicam7hermes
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I will say though, this camera looks like a bajillion dollars... so damn pretty. And yes, there's still a lot to be said for slide film. I'm waiting for some camera manufacturer or enterprising software designer to come up with a way to emulate the color characteristics and behavior of slides for a RAW file. I know it has to be possible. How sweet would it be to have a list of your favorite films and be able to choose a grain and color profile on the fly to suit your objectives for a given shot? I think someday we will be able to have it both ways. Fujifilm should hire some crack software designers and get on that one. #leicam7hermes
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When digital beats film both on exposure latitude and on color, I will entirely dump my film equipment. But even then, film will still have a greater advantage over digital. Being able to spread out a ton of slides over a light table and be able to instantly gloss over each one at full detail is not something you can do with even a 30" 2560x1600 display. #leicam7hermes
11/18/09
As for light tables versus viewing software, I'm sure there's got to be something out there that would suit your desires in the digital realm, at least in terms of displaying a large amount of thumbnails and the ability to view them full size at snappy speeds. However, if part of what you meant included the appeal of the tactile experience of moving slides with your hand and using a loupe to magnify them, then yeah, there is nothing out there like that for digital. Maybe when a product like microsoft surface becomes more available/advanced... and a person like yourself starts vocally demanding a nice interface to emulate the feel of a light table. That would be pretty awesome. =)
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The Leica difference is more one of feel - for one, you're carrying around a body with a lens more the size of your thumb than your forearm, and for two, nobody creates a mechanical experience like Leica does. Leicas are more about having fun shooting than they are about precision (which rangefinders suck at) and finesse, while still getting amazing results. #leicam7hermes
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uhhhh... what? how many swarovski crystal encrusted iphone cases, billion dollar yachts, and other $10,000+ leicas have you profiled? Oh ya, all of them..
I'm not sayin, i'm just sayin
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What I don't understand is why they're using the M7 as the model for these special editions. If I were to get a classic rangefinder, I'd want it to be completely mechanical like the Leica MP. No need to worry about juice. #leicam7hermes
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Micro might be the standard for phones, but for general gadgets, I'm pretty sure it's still Mini.
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- sony digicam
- ps3 controllers
- external passport drives
- memory card readers
all mini usb. mini ain't goin nowhere no time soon.
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It is but for now mini is most common.
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Anyways, did they make the port into a iLink one? Kind of useless, IMO.
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