So this is going to come out for a rumored reasonable price while the Wireless N adapter comes out for $100? For under $80 I would definitely give this a try but MS needs to alter their pricing on the HDD's and wireless adapters. #projectnatal
If this isn't an indication that this really is a project funded by the military/NWO wing of Microsoft to body scan people so they can send the terminators /drones/cruise missiles to kill us selectively, I don't know what is.
This is why I buy Apple products. Steve Job isn't Illuminati and/or a Free Mason Eugenicist. #projectnatal
@Daver73: Oh you mock, but wait, you'll see. The time timetable has been set. It'll happen on a holiday when people are traveling. Microsoft will say the XBOX user accounts have been compromised, and in order to use the XBOX and it's network, you have to do a full body scan and biometrics read to log into your XBOX live account and/or play games. And who will have access to all this information? The Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA. The secret government. That's when they shut down the internet for everyone else and only let "confirmed" Natal users access the WWW. Making them the chosen ones, but because they are scanned, they are marked. By the beast! #projectnatal
I guess they finally wised up the fact that people were using the ol' hairdryer-on-the-warranty-seal trick to repair their boxes themselves without voiding the 3 year RRoD warranty. When the dvd drive went out on mine a month after the 1 year standard warrant ran out, I purchased an OEM replacement off ebay for 30 bucks and went in there like Zohan. After 45 minutes, my trusty box was booting up Halo 3, and no one was the wiser. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
I'm assuming this was done to crack down on people who were buying broken boxes, refurbishing them, and selling them as used but never broken. This is a problem in the auto industry as well, when wrecked cars that were never officially listed as "totaled" are purchased by disreputable garages, then repaired and sold with clean titles, instead of the "rebuilt" titles the law requires. #xbox360warrantyseal
@sick_and_ashamed: My warranty wasn't transferable since that god forsaken ex was too cheap(bought it on ebay). haha but no really she was a degenerate. #xbox360warrantyseal
This is ridiculous. How do you tell your customers that you are screwed so easily? This is like saying, "We don't care about you. This system is banned, and it will stay that way."
FU MS. I will go with ps3. #xbox
@hcho3: How is this any different than any other nontransferable warentey?
How is this any different than buying a used car that turns out to be a lemon? It's not the responsibility of Honda to ensure the car still works, that's up to the reseller. #xbox
Despite the official "warranty is not transferable" policy, Microsoft still fixed the 360 I purchased used when it RROD'd. They'll make an exception for things that are their fault.
Things that are YOUR fault on the other hand... #xbox
buying anything used has always been a problem. Even in the old days, the Romans would demand a warranty on their x boxes....thus the saying "caveat emptor" #xbox
Check the comments on Major Nelson's site for a little more insight. Less-than-shady party means anyone you don't personally know.
Gamestop doesn't check if their consoles work, let alone whether they've been banned from Xbox Live, so any used console from Gamestop would run this risk.
But then again, I've never really supported Gamestop's used sales. Developers get the same money from pirated games as used games, so whats the difference? You're not supporting them in either case. #xbox
@Guard: "Developers get the same money from pirated games as used games, so whats the difference? You're not supporting them in either case."
Just go the whole distance and declare that libraries should be burned to the ground because authors only get one sale for an unlimited number of readers.
While you're at it, educate yourself on the First Sale Doctrine.
@Guard: Developers DO get paid for used game sales. Please learn some economics.
Knowing that you have the option to take a game back to Gamestop (or elsewhere) and get some money for a trade-in adds value and increases the chance of the original purchase. Studies show a significant amount of new games sales at places like Gamestop come back as a trade-in a few weeks later and that person buys the next new release. You think all those people buying the new release would buy as many games without being able to trade-in those they didn't really want to hold on to? #xbox
@newgalactic: They did that with the first-gen XBox. Need to unban your console? Swap the EEPROM and hard drive from another console. (the hard drive unlock key is in the 'PROM so you have to swap the drive with it, too. #xbox
My unmodded 360 is still hardware banned. I doubt microsoft will have any amnesty because it was opened to install better cooling for RROD prevention. Meh. #xbox
@4nonymo: Its not that they detected me opening it. Its that they banned it for no reason, but it was opened already so i cant take it back. Its time to consider retail fraud. Modern Warfare 2 is coming in 5 days, #xbox
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I'm assuming this was done to crack down on people who were buying broken boxes, refurbishing them, and selling them as used but never broken. This is a problem in the auto industry as well, when wrecked cars that were never officially listed as "totaled" are purchased by disreputable garages, then repaired and sold with clean titles, instead of the "rebuilt" titles the law requires. #xbox360warrantyseal
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But hey, your way comes with extra straw man. #xbox360warrantyseal
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FU MS. I will go with ps3. #xbox
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How is this any different than buying a used car that turns out to be a lemon? It's not the responsibility of Honda to ensure the car still works, that's up to the reseller. #xbox
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Things that are YOUR fault on the other hand... #xbox
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(and yes, I know the media center capabilities & online community of the 360 pick the PS3's butt) #xbox
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Gamestop doesn't check if their consoles work, let alone whether they've been banned from Xbox Live, so any used console from Gamestop would run this risk.
But then again, I've never really supported Gamestop's used sales. Developers get the same money from pirated games as used games, so whats the difference? You're not supporting them in either case. #xbox
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Just go the whole distance and declare that libraries should be burned to the ground because authors only get one sale for an unlimited number of readers.
While you're at it, educate yourself on the First Sale Doctrine.
[en.wikipedia.org] #xbox
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Knowing that you have the option to take a game back to Gamestop (or elsewhere) and get some money for a trade-in adds value and increases the chance of the original purchase. Studies show a significant amount of new games sales at places like Gamestop come back as a trade-in a few weeks later and that person buys the next new release. You think all those people buying the new release would buy as many games without being able to trade-in those they didn't really want to hold on to? #xbox
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Not that there's a huge market for re-enabled xbox 360's. And it would probably take forever. But it would be kinda cool. #xbox
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@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: Probably? No. There is no intrusion switch in the 360. lol @ that shit
@chanaz: There's always a reason. #xbox