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dagamer34
11/05/09

In reply to Droid Tethering on Verizon Is 30 Bucks a Month
Tethering doesnt make much sense because no ones network can really handle it. A high price means they are waiting to improve the backend before really trying to offer it to everyone. However, I'm not expecting to see that until well into 2010 when Verizon has 4G up and running. #verizon
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FigNinja
11/05/09

In reply to Droid Tethering on Verizon Is 30 Bucks a Month
I really wonder how the amount they make on these fees compares to the number of customers they lose or that never join them due their reputation for nickel and diming customers to death. #verizon
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ibelli
11/05/09

@FigNinja: The thing is, I'd be willing to pay $5 or maybe even $10, but $30? Hell to the no. #verizon
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FigNinja
11/05/09

@ibelli: Yep. I bet you're not alone. How many people out there decide smartphones aren't for them because they charge so much for data and then tethering? They could likely be getting more people into costlier plans with higher margins if they took that into account.

They're probably thinking of the business users when they set that price. Makes sense being that they come from the Blackberry world. If you are on the road for work a lot, it's worth $30. They need to get that smartphones are in the consumer market now. I'm sure part of the reasoning behind keeping the cost high is also that they don't want you using this to replace your home internet, loading their network, and possibly becoming ex-Verizon Internet customers. I get that. How about allowing a middle ground? How about allowing everyone with an unlimited data plan a certain number of tethering days a month or a year? I don't tether often but occasionally I'm out or on vacation and want to. I've probably used the tethering on my phone 10 times in the last year. I still want the ability to do that in a pinch but I absolutely will not pay the same amount again as I pay for their "unlimited" data.

Of course, I'm betting we'll be able to just root this phone and get around it but it's still bad business. #verizon
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TuxBobble
11/05/09

@ibelli: Yea honestly, the ONLY reason I don't own a smartphone right now is due to the ridiculous fees.

If they made it an UNLIMITED unlimited plan (from what I hear all those plans still have caps) I'd think about it, but still, I am a firm believer that there should be no additional cost for tethering.

Data is data. My phone receives it. Anything beyond my phone is my business. (Like a modem--you pay the fee to use the modem--how the signal is used PAST that router is MY business. It's like charging extra money to use a second PC on your home network, connceted to the internet. 100% bullshit, if you ask me) #verizon
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Panzer23
11/05/09

@FigNinja: I am in that boat #verizon
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mj001
11/05/09

The sad part for us Canadians is that $30 a month for 5GB is considered a really good deal, being close to the $30/6GB plan that Rogers/Fido has offered for limited periods in the past.

Or I guess we can pay the usual $25 for 500MB. Awesome.
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ibelli
11/05/09

@FigNinja: I didn't think of the whole business angle. That makes sense. #verizon
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FigNinja
11/05/09

@mj001: That's egregious. #verizon
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ghmlco
11/05/09

@FigNinja: I suspect that the high price is to discourage too many people from jumping on and, like AT&T and the iPhone, bringing the network to its knees.

And why would one ever need to "root" an open-source, Linux-based phone that let's you do everything? (grin) #verizon
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YearZer0
11/05/09

@mj001: That $30 gets you 6GB for on phone data + tethering. No extra fee... At least for now. Who knows what the future holds. Right now I can tether all I want though. #verizon
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dragon:ONE
11/05/09

In reply to Leaked AT&T Memo Outlines Spin Tactics Regarding Verizon Lawsuit
"The nation's fastest 3G network" - theoretically. Look, AT&T. Just because your HSPA network can THEORETICALLY get up to 3.2 Mbps doesn't mean it actually is achieved.

If you look at the results from user-supplied testing at Boy Genius Report, [www.boygeniusreport.com] - it clearly shows that Sprint EvDO, at 1361 Kbps, is faster than the user-supplied results for AT&T, at 933 Kbps.

The sad thing is this, in regards to their 3G coverage: I live close enough that I can pick up BOTH Telus and Bell Mobility HSPA+ 21Mbps towers on my device but get stuck on AT&T EDGE otherwise. #attinternalmemo
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crackel
11/05/09

In reply to Leaked AT&T Memo Outlines Spin Tactics Regarding Verizon Lawsuit
A frivolouts lawsuit isn't one you disagree with. AT&T has the prerogative to utilize the court system to address issues like these. The truth is that while most of us wouldn't be confused by a 3G comparison map, most of the population definitely will.

We should be glad that companies and courts work against misleading advertising, or does everyone here enjoy that aspect of our free market? #attinternalmemo
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Mr_Nowitt
11/05/09

@crackel: Actually the money spent on lawyers and lawsuits would better be spent on upgrading their crappy network, hiring competent friendly staff and finding ways to lower the users price against competition.

As for "misleading advertising", you cannot accurately figure who would and would not be confused based on speculation. I have yet to see a statistic that this led to misinformation to the greater public of consumers who had switched due to the campaign. So this lawsuit is based on conjecture. #attinternalmemo
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crackel
11/05/09

@Mr_Nowitt: you have a point. There is no statistic for AT&T to prove this was misleading, and it will be their burden to do so. I speak solely on the merit of my observation, having met thousands of people throughout my professional life and realizing that they wouldn't know the difference between 3g, 2g, edge, data, or even cell technology.

Can you honestly tell me you believe Verizon didn't spin this just enough to confuse some people but not give AT&T the ammo to sue? I've worked at several blue chip companies and believe me, they'll do anything they can get away with.

I don't appreciate the misuse of courts, but it's nice to see an oligopoly compete, even if it's not (yet) in price. Txt message rate hikes did not come from a fight but implicit collusion.

When courts stop being the right place to fight, we'll see better competition. Which is why even though I defend AT&T's right to sue, I hope they lose. #attinternalmemo
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/05/09

In reply to Leaked AT&T Memo Outlines Spin Tactics Regarding Verizon Lawsuit
Hey AT&T does have a sense of humor after all. This funny memo proves it.. #attinternalmemo
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Digo
11/05/09

In reply to Leaked AT&T Memo Outlines Spin Tactics Regarding Verizon Lawsuit
It almost feels awkward reading this. It's like at&t is that kid that sucks at sports but swears he's awesome, it's just that his pump shoes weren't fully pumped. #attinternalmemo
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Jeb_Hoge
11/05/09

@Digo: Heart-click for that. #attinternalmemo
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Monty
11/05/09

In reply to Leaked AT&T Memo Outlines Spin Tactics Regarding Verizon Lawsuit
The economy has taken a hit on AT&T and they had to shut down their sense of humor department. #attinternalmemo
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Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!!
11/05/09

@Monty: I lol'ed.

An internet cookie for you, Sir. #attinternalmemo
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ThisIsSharksTerritory
11/05/09

@Soldier_CLE: and i lol'ed at THAT (the internet cookie)
sounds SUUUPER nooby but that is the first time i've heard that one #attinternalmemo
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Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!!
11/05/09

@ThisIsSharksTerritory: Trust me, they are delicious! Granted, you can find them everywhere, though I know that for some reason, others have not seem them, much less eaten them.

*bytes into another one* #attinternalmemo
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brobot
11/05/09

@Soldier_CLE: Internet cookie? #attinternalmemo
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Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!!
11/05/09

@brobot: AWESOME!

You also get my first awarded "Headshot!" Achievement Unlocked! +10 Pts. #attinternalmemo
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OCEntertainment
11/04/09

In reply to T-Mobile's Super Speedy 7.2Mbps 3G Rollout Has Begun
3652.9 kbps on the 1MB test
3960.4 kbps on the 2MB test

I'm in the metro Atlanta area. Pretty far outside the perimeter, so my speeds may not be an indication of the city as a whole.

Oh, and lest we forget, #RosaRocks #tmobilehspa72rollout
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Con Seannery
11/04/09

In reply to T-Mobile's Super Speedy 7.2Mbps 3G Rollout Has Begun
We just got the first 3G rollout here...I can't imagine we'll see this for a while 'round these parts.

Also, #RosaRocks #tmobilehspa72rollout
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dagamer34
11/04/09

In reply to T-Mobile's Super Speedy 7.2Mbps 3G Rollout Has Begun
Wow, these speeds are faster than my 6mbps rated Crapcast internet connection! #tmobilehspa72rollout
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sdsviet
11/04/09

In reply to T-Mobile's Super Speedy 7.2Mbps 3G Rollout Has Begun
well i just checked out mobile speed test and im keeping 4000-5000kbps on the 500kb, 1mb, 2mb and 3mb test. so maybe they did roll these out. im in the ohare area of chicago. #tmobilehspa72rollout
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Rosa Golijan
11/04/09

@sdsviet: Would you be able to post a screen shot? Or email it over? #tmobilehspa72rollout
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we be illin
11/04/09

@Rosa Golijan: if I knew how to screenshot from my G1 I would be happy to. #tmobilehspa72rollout
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Rosa Golijan
11/04/09

@we be illin: Unfortunately there's not a neat way of doing it on the phone other than purchasing an app or using the screenshot action in the SDK. #tmobilehspa72rollout
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RainyDayInterns
11/03/09

In reply to AT&T Suing Verizon Because "Map" Ad Is Confusing to Dumb People (and Lawyers)
Maybe the real question should be ...why is everyone building their own network? #3g
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psxndc
11/04/09

@RainyDayInterns: Control, of course. Whoever controls the copper/fiber controls it all. #3g
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RainyDayInterns
11/04/09

@psxndc: It was a rhetorical question, but the point is...we don't have private highways because everyone needs it, so it is best built using public funds.

The companies can compete on providing the service, but the technology should be standardized and the wire should be public-owned. #3g
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quayzar
11/03/09

In reply to AT&T Suing Verizon Because "Map" Ad Is Confusing to Dumb People (and Lawyers)
I live in an area that apparently has no 3G coverage despite averaging about 1.8 Mb/s on my iPhone. #3g
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RainyDayInterns
11/03/09

In reply to AT&T Suing Verizon Because "Map" Ad Is Confusing to Dumb People (and Lawyers)
We had always thought "Middle" America was a warm and fuzzy way of referring to Americans of "size" because of the large "middle" they have...

Huh...we have been using it wrong all this time. #3g
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szrimaging
11/03/09

In reply to AT&T Suing Verizon Because "Map" Ad Is Confusing to Dumb People (and Lawyers)
By the way, AT&T's map is wrong. There is more coverage in the state of Michigan than is on that map. #3g
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Arms Akimbo
11/03/09

@szrimaging: Yeah, but it's Michigan so who cares?
Just kidding. I'll be happy to get out of the Detroitlet once I'm done with school though. #3g
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szrimaging
11/04/09

@Arms Akimbo: Northern Michigan and the UP are absolutely beautiful. If your only impression of the state is Detroit, than I am sorry, you don't know the state at all.

And the only thing that will save Detroit is knocking down all the abandoned buildings and making a few more trendy/artsy areas. #3g
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