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    Image of Nasdaf Nasdaf
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    PERU ANA
    ANA PERU
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    Image of Turael Turael
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    Ah how nice to see the times haven't changed. Post a picture of a beautiful (in most peoples opinion) woman and people will crawl out from under their respective rocks to say she is too skinny/too fat/real women don't look like that etc.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    She's gorgeous, but the overwhelming feeling I get when I watch that video is sadness - that an intelligent, mature, rich, successful woman feels she has walk around in her underwear and pose like a porn star to feel good about herself and promote her career/make even more money. Assuming she enjoys it, of course; if she hates it and it's just about promotion. . . I can't decide whether that's better or worse! Meh, her decision.
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    Image of jstein99 jstein99
    10/02/09

    @Diziet_Sma: Wonderfully put. Thank you.
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    Diziet_Sma promoted this comment jstein99 was starred jstein99 was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @Diziet_Sma: Not dissing Kate Beckinsale, porn stars - or even hapless men - you understand; just shaking my fist at the patriarchy. Hell, we're all part of it. The discussion below re: Megan Fox, bones, asses, etc? Just as depressing as the video.
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    Edited by Diziet_Sma at 10/02/09 6:51 PM Diziet_Sma was starred Diziet_Sma was unstarred
    Image of CommentingpointlesslyisMeh CommentingpointlesslyisMeh
    10/02/09

    @Diziet_Sma: I thought about the same thing. But you know, may be she is just being free to flaunt. It's not like it was Playboy. It's Esquire, and she could have been trying to have fun. She IS attractive after all.
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    Diziet_Sma promoted this comment CommentingpointlesslyisMeh was starred CommentingpointlesslyisMeh was unstarred
    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    10/02/09

    @CommentingpointlesslyisMeh: Yeah, she may be.

    I guess, as a woman, I personally can't think of anything less enjoyable than prancing around in my undies and high heels and having to pretend to feel sexy in front of a crew of (probably male) strangers, while writhing around on a (probably) cold and uncomfortable kitchen work surface (?) knowing that thousands of men will be wanking over the result. I would find that extremely unpleasant, demeaning and unerotic. Most actors and actresses say as much when they have to shoot sex scenes. But, you may be right - each to her own.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    And she has human thumbs. She wins.
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    Image of Dr. Evil Genius Dr. Evil Genius
    10/02/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: She only wins if there is just two women on the planet (the other being Megan Fox).

    She wouldn't make my Top 1,000.

    Boney chicks FTL for me.
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    Kaiser-Machead promoted this comment Dr. Evil Genius was starred Dr. Evil Genius was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: Top 1,000? Now, I gotta say, this is easier to say than it is to actually apply to real life. If offered, I wonder how many guys (single and/or willing) would turn her down.
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    Edited by Kaiser-Machead at 10/02/09 4:24 PM Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of Slyd3z Slyd3z
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    Perhaps they should start calling this honor "Skinniest Woman Alive".
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    UnderLoK promoted this comment Slyd3z was starred Slyd3z was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @Slyd3z: Agreed... More T&A less spine, ribs, and pelvic bones...
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    Image of Sean Masters Sean Masters
    10/02/09

    @Slyd3z: most Americans (60% of Americans are obese) do not look like what humans are supposed to look like, physiologically speaking. It's very likely that you are basing your opinion on years of exposure to overweight people. If you live in America, of course.

    @UnderLoK: case in point. I don't see ribs and pelvic bones here. She looks smooth, in good health, and shapely... instead of chunky, top-heavy, etc.
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    10/02/09

    @Sean Masters: Or, you could have a distorted view of what constitutes a healthy and/or beautiful appearance. Not only that, but also a bad case of being a generalizing, stereotyping halfwit. And if you watched the video, you would see plenty of exposed bones (not unlike what you see on the "Save the Children" ads; but I'm sure they posses an ideal image to you). 60% of Americans are obese? Probably. I wonder what the percentage of pretentious assholes is where you are?
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    10/02/09

    @Sean Masters: You see plenty of bones, you must not have watched the video.
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    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
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    Pope John Peeps II promoted this comment Edited at 10/02/09 3:22 PM rotovibe was starred rotovibe was unstarred
    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/02/09

    @rotovibe: An asshole and a homophobe! You're really multitasking today, aintcha?
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    10/02/09

    @rotovibe: How to get banned: a short story by rotovibe.
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    nutbastard promoted this comment Kris Aubuchon was starred Kris Aubuchon was unstarred
    Image of RE-L RE-L
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    Kate is very very beautiful no doubt. But I seriously doubt that Esquire magazine can rightfully call anyone the "sexiest woman alive". Still, good for Kate.
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    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis promoted this comment RE-L was starred RE-L was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @RE-L: And yes this is also good because it's not Megan Fox and I am sick of her.
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    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis promoted this comment RE-L was starred RE-L was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @RE-L: I'm not, but then again I think my wife has a bigger crush on Megan Fox than I do.
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    Image of Thorax707 Thorax707
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    I like a much fatter ass. Yeah, I said it.
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    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis promoted this comment Thorax707 was starred Thorax707 was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @Thorax707: WHAT!?! You mean you like a curvaceous body?! Agreed!

    Man these women need to eat once in awhile, I mean you can see her heart beat through her back ffs.
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    Image of Mischif Mischif
    10/02/09

    @Thorax707: So...you like big butts? Considering the fact that you also decided to go against the majority opinion, I'm assuming that you cannot lie.
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    UnderLoK promoted this comment Mischif was starred Mischif was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @Mischif: hmmm I may have misunderstood what he was saying... Kate is too skinny, but I don't dig on "fat asses". :(
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    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    sexiest? ohhhhhhkaaay...if you say so
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    It's not a good picture of her.
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    Image of puffnstuff puffnstuff
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    I'm real happy for you Kate Beckinsale, and imma let you finish, but Stacey Dash is one of the hottest women of all time.
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    Kaiser-Machead promoted this comment Edited by puffnstuff at 10/02/09 2:23 PM puffnstuff was starred puffnstuff was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    10/02/09

    @puffnstuff: Kanye needs to be boiled in oil for starting this trend.
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    Image of fromantis fromantis
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    "This makes it a lot easier on the photographer since he doesn't need to know, intuitively, when the best few seconds are to snap a stream of shots"

    That's what being a photographer is. If you can't relate to your subject and read them and know when to get the shots, you shouldn't be shooting people.
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    Edited by fromantis at 10/02/09 2:22 PM fromantis was starred fromantis was unstarred
    Image of TendoMentis TendoMentis
    10/02/09

    @fromantis: people shouldn't shoot people at the best of times, IMHO
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    Reil: Ignore this promoted this comment TendoMentis was starred TendoMentis was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @TendoMentis: Agreed, and hearted!
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    Image of fromantis fromantis
    10/02/09

    @TendoMentis: @Reil: I hate you both.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment Edited by fromantis at 10/02/09 2:44 PM fromantis was starred fromantis was unstarred
    Image of Omadon Omadon
    10/02/09

    @fromantis: Don't you mean, i "heart" you both?
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    Reil: Ignore this promoted this comment Edited by Omadon at 10/02/09 4:46 PM Omadon was starred Omadon was unstarred
    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    meh, Eliza Dushku is a thousand times hotter than this chick.
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    10/02/09

    @nutbastard:

    oh and megan fox needs to just go away. seriously. i get the same feeling when her name is mentioned that i do when someone mentions Paris Hilton.

    *vomit*
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    10/02/09

    @nutbastard: i agree about megan fox... but eliza dushku? yuck.
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    nutbastard promoted this comment lostarchitect was starred lostarchitect was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @lostarchitect:

    Eliza Dushku at least looks like a woman who could conceivably exist - Fox and this broad are friggin plastic.
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    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    10/02/09

    @nutbastard: Oh nooooo damn it all to heck, no sir. I think I'll go with Mila Kunis...
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    Image of paintedangel paintedangel
    10/02/09

    @nutbastard: If you are into that trailer trash type O chickie!
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    nutbastard promoted this comment paintedangel was starred paintedangel was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @paintedangel:

    in fact, apparently, i am.
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    Image of paintedangel paintedangel
    10/02/09

    @nutbastard: I ain't mad atcha man!
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    Image of token_illiterate_commenter token_illiterate_commenter
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution

    May I post my choice?
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment token_illiterate_commenter was starred token_illiterate_commenter was unstarred
    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/02/09

    @token_illiterate_commenter: Good choice. But you'd have to rewind time about 15 years. She's like.... 50 now.
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    Image of token_illiterate_commenter token_illiterate_commenter
    10/02/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: She's more like 43, and she's still hotter than women half her age. A woman doesn't have to be 25 to be attractive.
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    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    10/02/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: She is still hot, just not as hot... Her and Jennifer Connelly...
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    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    10/02/09

    In reply to Red Epic Used to Shoot Sexiest Woman Alive, Kate Beckinsale, at 5K Resolution
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH...! That's your sexist woman alive!?!?!?! GTFO! It was obviously a white guy who bestowed that title. Obviously. Just nasty.
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: And who would your pick be?
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: was starred PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: was unstarred
    Image of Griffehpoo Griffehpoo
    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Hey, most of us whities have better taste than this. Guy who wrote this just has some kind of mental issue or something. I don't know who decided that a woman has to be a stick figure to be sexy, but she doesn't do anything for me, either.
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment Edited by Griffehpoo at 10/02/09 2:08 PM Griffehpoo was starred Griffehpoo was unstarred
    Image of Dynosaulo Dynosaulo
    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Yeah, man.. couldn't agree more.

    I'm actually "white", as you said... but saying "Kate Beckinsale" is the sexiest woman alive does nothing but prove that the guy who stated that has NEVER come to Brazil. Period.
    I mean, she doesn't even have an ass, man!!!
    Christ, that guy should visit Copacabana in the summer...
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    Pope John Peeps II promoted this comment Edited by Dynosaulo at 10/02/09 2:10 PM Dynosaulo was starred Dynosaulo was unstarred
    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: I can take this to many places, but I don't know which path I want to take.
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    Image of eagles3 speeeedin eagles3 speeeedin
    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: That was a pretty racist thing to say. I think that she is attractive regardless of race. She may not be attractive to you but that doesnt mean she's nasty, and it doesnt mean only white people would find her attractive.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/02/09

    @Dynosaulo: Well, I guess if you find "demanding" and "bitchy" to be sexy than yeah... Brazilian ladies have got the corner on that. hahaha.
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    Image of eagles3 speeeedin eagles3 speeeedin
    10/02/09

    @Griffehpoo: I personally prefer athletic women, slim but not skinny. My race has nothing to do with that, they're just better in bed. But if kate were to walk naked into my room, I would bang her without thinking twice. She's a very attractive lady.
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment eagles3 speeeedin was starred eagles3 speeeedin was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @Dynosaulo: Sai fora cara! Eu ja fui para Brasil, e concordo que as mulheres la sao bonitas, mas mesmo assim eu gosto mais de Kate Beckinsale.
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment SEDAGIVE?! was starred SEDAGIVE?! was unstarred
    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    10/02/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Oh dude, your reply had me dying laughing. Win.
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    10/02/09

    @eagles3 halfinsane: I didn't say she wasn't attractive. Mind my words: I said there is no fucking way in hell that is the sexist woman alive. No. Way. In. Hell.
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    Image of SinisterBill SinisterBill
    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: My what a small mind you've got there!
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    10/02/09

    @Dynosaulo: See man, I don't even KNOW YOU and I like you already.....Becuase you KNOW where the hottest women come from....!
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    10/02/09

    @eagles3 halfinsane: No, but seriously, Olivia Wilde is hotter than this chick, Megan Fox is hotter than this chick, even fucking Kim Kardashian is hotter than this chick. Seriously.
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    10/02/09

    @SinisterBill of Star Command: Spectacular retort, friend.
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    10/02/09

    @SEDAGIVE?!: Whatever you just said, I agree with you.
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    10/02/09

    @eagles3 halfinsane: Ehhhhhhhhhhhh, did you catch the backshot Eagles? I mean, do you see how that butt just sags? You'd nail that?

    Oh, and I feel you on the athletic women note.
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Shes average. yawn.
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment BeerManMike was starred BeerManMike was unstarred
    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    10/02/09

    @BeerManMike: Indeed.
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Olivia Wilde is my current favorite actress. Bisexual 13 is pretty much amazing. I'll give oyu that, megan, not so much, shes not real, she looks like a fraggin barbie. Kim's not my type. And i see no sag.
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: I didn't know she was sexist! Wow, that makes me think... less of her...

    Eh, I don't think she's that good, personally. No curves.
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    10/02/09

    @Griffehpoo: mmmm stick figure... mmmm pretzels... mmmm funnel cake...

    stick figure = food thoughts + I am an american therefore I will eat her
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: it's called opinion man. some people aren't attracting to fat asses, or 'booty' as some might say. compared to megan fox, she's 100x hotter.
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Obviously, everyone has their own opinion and tastes, but why don't you make your own magazine or whatever and you can post whomever you like.

    I happen to like thin women, but I do not go around and say crap about fat black women and such (oh wait, I just did)...
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    10/02/09

    @mopo: I agree with you there bud, fat black women (or fat any women for that matter) are pretty repulsive.
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    10/02/09

    @eagles3 halfinsane: I second your choice for Olivia Wilde. She is next to perfect.
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    Image of paintedangel paintedangel
    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Yay for white guys!
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment paintedangel was starred paintedangel was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @eagles3 halfinsane: Really...put this lady in a bar full of black guys and watch em fight over her.
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    10/02/09

    @eagles3 halfinsane: Oh, I'm not docking athletic women either. I kinda misspoke above, this woman just holds no charm for me, like nutbastard mentioned, she looks plastic. I see this woman and immediately think anorexia and surgery.
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    10/02/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Kim Kardashian? You gotta be drunk!
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment paintedangel was starred paintedangel was unstarred
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    10/02/09

    @paintedangel: lmao. No liquor involved friend. She was third on the list. Regardless, all of them rank above Ms. Anorexia.
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