It seems that almost everyone that is "dissing" this product either didn"t read the article or understand it. It's not try in to be a pocketable computer and what it does, it does very well. There, I boiled it down to one sentence for all the "haters". I have a Blackberry and I don't need 2 things in my pocket that are redundant. I know that not everyone has a smartphone, but this isn't a smartphone, either.
FTA: "The iPod Touch, in comparison, is a 3.5-inch multitouch capacitive LCD, but in 4:3 (fullscreen) ratio running at 480×320, which is more efficient for web browsing but a waste of space for straightforward media playback."
480x320 is a 3:2 aspect ratio, not 4:3, and certainly not fullscreen. Just wanted to point that out. :)
Pleeeze! This is not a review this is a kiss up fest!
The ZuneHD is totally lacking in so many areas that you can not possible look at yourself in the mirror without feeling like street trash! I can believe this review, hope you cashed in the M$ cheque already!
What? Only 2 "cons's" ????? How about No SDK available? Or youtube?... or even support for mac?... come on giz, and overall you still say this is the best PMP available...
I like the processor, and the design.... but I'll stick with an iPod touch, thank you.
P.S. Is this really a review, or just advertisement for M$???
@G.O.B.: Come on!: ja! no, im not an apple fanboy, i even own a zune, its somewhere, i replaced it with my android phone.... anyways, too many negatives to own a zuneHD over an ipod touch.. just saying, this review doesn't clarify that. For a PMP I will go with an ipod touch anyday.
@velazcod: This review is targetted at end users - not developers. There are lots of very specific complaints in it.
And you might want to read a bit more closely: "there's no SDK" is right in the article. So is "Unfortunately, the Zune HD does not support YouTube or any other Flash video" and the down conclusion: "The Zune HD is the best touchscreen PMP on the market... But I'm not sure that's enough."
@velazcod: THats Fine but that facts are there...the zuneHD is just a better PMP. Your choice really is...ZuneHD= Better Video Viewing( Native and Output)...slightly better battery, Better Screen, UI makes more sense for a PMP(less desktop like) UI output to TV(ipod users only dream of)...potentially better and higher quality games...its MS remember..the ipod touch is a better gaming platform than the MAC. So ur choice is...Better Media Player(hands-down) or would you rather keep the over-price ipod which its 75,000 useless apps?? I takes the physical features of the zuneHD anyday..something a "app" can't help your ipod with..
@D.E.P.C.: I want your body.: AppleInsider is full of circle jerking and sphincter licking. They know the Zune HD takes a shit on the Touch and they're trying to divert the focus.
@G.O.B.: Come on!: I agree, they have the HUGEST bias ever, but I think their points are objectively made. Please, check it out if you don't believe me.
I would just like to point out the sanity here in the comments section. Over at engadget, where the review isnt out yet, every zune HD post and iPod touch post is filled with the same 5 idiots that fill every single post on engadget and they are some of the stupidest people I have ever encountered or even seen in a movie (encino man included, also bio dome).
Here we have the full review and there is no fanboy war, no FUD, no windowsFTW with his 17 accounts down ranking everything into oblivion that doesnt read like a MS PR post.
Good Show gizmodo. I can only imagine that when the review does drop on engadget it will possibly be the worst comments ever. God i love this site.
Also can i please get a gizmodo membership, i have had a kotaku one for almost a month now, do you guys just hate End User License Agreement Terms Of Service?
@Eulatos: Hay you. This is the internet, you are not to have respect for rational and civilized discussion. Please choose which product/company you are going to be a fanboy of and lower your post maturity accordingly. Thank you.
@Xeno: Ill work on it, i promise. Its funny that you use that avatar BTW. There is a guy over on engadget that uses a similar Fry avatar and i would like to punch him in the face. If thats you, sorry.
1. Too slow
2. Too small of a display/res
3. No "word wrap" (this means you'll be panning every 5-6 words on a lot of sites/forums)
4. Handles javascript terribly
5. Defaults to mobile sites
6. Tears up the battery
7. Gets excessively warm, almost hot after awhile
8. No tabs
9. Accelerometer won't work when QWERTY's up
10. _ buried in QWERTY
@Jodiuh:
I own an iPod touch (and soon a 1st Gen iPhone)
1. Can't argue with that
2. It's a mobility device, the screen WILL be small
3. iPod Touch doesn't have it either
4. iPod Touch does too. Try m.gizmodo.com or google reader
5. And you complain about the need to pan, slow javascript, and low rendering speed? (This is set by the website anyway)
6. It's wifi. Wifi eats battery. This applies to ANY device
7. My iPod got pretty hot doing 3D, web browsing, and charging. I did get burned once. (Playing NFS while charging)
8. Well that sucks. How did they manage to forget the tabs?
9/10. I hate design quirks like this.
Some of those complaints I agree with, but others, you need to set your expectations at a good level. THIS THING STILL LOADS SITES FASTER THAN A 486, AND IT FITS IN YOUR HAND. /endshout
Bleh. I really want that 64GB version now! Zune 4.0 is faster and sleeker than ever and the Zune HD will complete me. Time to buy me some Battlestar Galactica!
I think it's awesome that someone was finally able to make a UI that was completely their own, not copying apple at all. And it looks great, I really really like it.
I bought a Zune120 this past july, and whlie i'm jealous of the beauty of the ZuneHD, I can't say I care much until the size of the suckers are actually worthwhile. My music collection is simply too large to bothers with 32 gigs. What a downgrade that would be!
Edited by Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected at 09/16/09 3:34 PM
Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected was starred
Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected was unstarred
I'll be interested to see how the UI holds up after the new has worn off, as it does seem rather busy. The two-step process of changing volume/play-pause seems like a mistake, but maybe there's a control on the earbud cord.
For me, the wide bezel around the screen is a disappointment. I understand the needs of the overall width, but is there some limitation to the OLED screen size?
@MisterWho *Star: Dude. That's the reason why the dudes I know don't have iphones. They're like a chick's well-manicured fingernail...all shiny, curvy, sleek...
The unit is surprisingly light, and the screen has surprisingly black, blacks.
I like her. Just got done syncing all of my media. Played around with it yesterday, but I only had about 1/10th of my collection with me since I got the player and then pretty soon had to go to work.
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480x320 is a 3:2 aspect ratio, not 4:3, and certainly not fullscreen. Just wanted to point that out. :)
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The ZuneHD is totally lacking in so many areas that you can not possible look at yourself in the mirror without feeling like street trash! I can believe this review, hope you cashed in the M$ cheque already!
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I like the processor, and the design.... but I'll stick with an iPod touch, thank you.
P.S. Is this really a review, or just advertisement for M$???
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And you might want to read a bit more closely: "there's no SDK" is right in the article. So is "Unfortunately, the Zune HD does not support YouTube or any other Flash video" and the down conclusion: "The Zune HD is the best touchscreen PMP on the market... But I'm not sure that's enough."
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Here we have the full review and there is no fanboy war, no FUD, no windowsFTW with his 17 accounts down ranking everything into oblivion that doesnt read like a MS PR post.
Good Show gizmodo. I can only imagine that when the review does drop on engadget it will possibly be the worst comments ever. God i love this site.
Also can i please get a gizmodo membership, i have had a kotaku one for almost a month now, do you guys just hate End User License Agreement Terms Of Service?
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1. Too slow
2. Too small of a display/res
3. No "word wrap" (this means you'll be panning every 5-6 words on a lot of sites/forums)
4. Handles javascript terribly
5. Defaults to mobile sites
6. Tears up the battery
7. Gets excessively warm, almost hot after awhile
8. No tabs
9. Accelerometer won't work when QWERTY's up
10. _ buried in QWERTY
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I own an iPod touch (and soon a 1st Gen iPhone)
1. Can't argue with that
2. It's a mobility device, the screen WILL be small
3. iPod Touch doesn't have it either
4. iPod Touch does too. Try m.gizmodo.com or google reader
5. And you complain about the need to pan, slow javascript, and low rendering speed? (This is set by the website anyway)
6. It's wifi. Wifi eats battery. This applies to ANY device
7. My iPod got pretty hot doing 3D, web browsing, and charging. I did get burned once. (Playing NFS while charging)
8. Well that sucks. How did they manage to forget the tabs?
9/10. I hate design quirks like this.
Some of those complaints I agree with, but others, you need to set your expectations at a good level. THIS THING STILL LOADS SITES FASTER THAN A 486, AND IT FITS IN YOUR HAND. /endshout
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For me, the wide bezel around the screen is a disappointment. I understand the needs of the overall width, but is there some limitation to the OLED screen size?
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I like her. Just got done syncing all of my media. Played around with it yesterday, but I only had about 1/10th of my collection with me since I got the player and then pretty soon had to go to work.