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    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    There is already a type of armor to defeat to defeat shaped charge penetration rounds: slat/bar/cage armor.
    This ia already used on the Stryker. It works by destroying the projectile a safe distance from the vehicle so that it's energy can not be concentrated enough to penetrate.


    [www.defenseindustrydaily.com]

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_Isn'tFreshPerked GitEmSteveDave_Isn'tFreshPerked
    12/01/08

    @shoeless: But wouldn't the first round deform/destroy the "cage", leaving an open door for the following projectile?
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    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    Yeah, but can it kill the Grimace?
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    Image of yoshi yoshi
    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    Russia is no joke. These guys are on the move toward the western world. They've sold Russian helicopters to Venezuela. They are helping Venezuela build a nuclear reactor. They are doing naval exercises of the coast of Venezuela. They are drilling for oil of the Gulf of Mexico. AND they are putting a base in Venezuela. All of this is being done because our military is way over extended and we've elected a President with absolutely no experience.


    Obama has his work cut out for him. That's for damn sure.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    Too late for the Russians. We're already developing laser-based defenses.
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    Image of SouthendXGF SouthendXGF
    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    ok, I think this could really be useful in human form too - I could have a little midget run into a room 2 seconds before I enter, and no one would focus any attention on me, allowing me to pass through undetected. I'm adding this to my ninja arsenal. plus, midgets are just funny.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_Isn'tFreshPerked GitEmSteveDave_Isn'tFreshPerked
    12/01/08

    @SouthendXGF:
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    Image of timak timak
    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    So they are building weapons that defeat the defenses of their own tanks. I guess it saves their enemies the trouble.


    What is the deal with the Russian officer hats? The bigger they are the higher the rank? Or is it like cars in this country, merely an extension?

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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    12/01/08

    @timak:


    It's a brilliant move actually, if you're selling weapons to both sides.


    And as for the hats: you can make them as high as you want, but if they don't have a spike on top or horns on the sides, they'll never be maximum cool.

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    Image of twoeightnine twoeightnine
    12/01/08

    @Serolf Divad: It's a brilliant move actually, if you're selling weapons to both sides.


    That's exactly what I was thinking. Sell your old tanks to your opponent and then blow them up real good.

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    Image of EVEs_Mako EVEs_Mako
    12/01/08

    In reply to Russia's New Armor-Fooling Rocket Grenade Is An "Abrams Killer" Apparently
    In the Obama world, we no longer need tanks.
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    Image of The Analrapist: Half Analyst Half Therapist The Analrapist: Half Analyst Half Therapist
    12/01/08

    @EVEs_Mako: The Soldiers and Marines will all be riding Unicorns firing rainbows from peace pandas. So no kind of out dated Russian rocket will stand up to that.


    I think were on the M1 A3 anyway and from my experience tanks, usually traveling in packs of 5, do just sit and get fired at. Nor do all the support crew, infantry, and various other grand war machines and trained fighters that are accompanying them.


    Some of the Depleted Uranium rounds we used in Africa could punch a hole through any type of armor we encountered but not the M1. They should be afraid, very afraid.


    One more thing check out a Fléchette Round. Now that's fun for the whole family

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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    12/02/08

    @Hiroak:
    Best story I ever heard about the M1 was that in either Desert Shield or Desert Storm one of our Abrams got disabled, and when the crew called in to request field repairs, they were told that it would take too long and that they should scuttle the tank. That's supposed to be accomplished by blowing the ammo bay, but when they did that, they discovered that the Abrams ammo bay is designed to blow outwards (so as to protect all the squishy meaty bits inside should something go _WRONG_). A little while later, a repair crew showed up and had the thing running again in no time.


    The easiest way to take out an Abrams is probably to "turtle" it, and even that won't really destroy it.

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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/12/08

    In reply to First Look At the New USS Enterprise
    I agree with the Klingon....


    At 1:08

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    Image of scarbrtj scarbrtj
    11/11/08

    In reply to First Look At the New USS Enterprise
    /kirkvoiceon
    It's a pleasure. To see. The Enterprise. Backinaction. I'm certain. That Starfleet's. Bestandbrightest. Willsave. The Day. Again.
    /kirkvoiceoff
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    Image of DisposableInterloper DisposableInterloper
    11/11/08

    In reply to First Look At the New USS Enterprise
    I was kinda hoping they'd do something fanboys would consider blasphemous, like giving it an odd number of warp pylons.
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    Image of Jason Chen Jason Chen
    11/11/08

    @DisposableInterloper: The Future Enterprise in the TNG finale had an odd number, and fans loved it.
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