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    Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks

    Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please

    Adobe Flash 10.1 and AIR 2.0 Betas Released: Life Is Better Now

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    Image of drsquirrel drsquirrel
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please
    Flash isn't what I want for HD Video, bugger that.

    Flash also isn't something that I want people to start making COD 8 in to play on the webpage. It's getting a bit annoying now to find a "little" flash game that I want to play on the laptop away from my main machine, only to find that its just slow as crap.

    HD in Flash, waste of time.

    Oh btw, flash sites suck, stupid site designers. #flash
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    Danny Allen promoted this comment drsquirrel was starred drsquirrel was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @drsquirrel: Hey, I'd love for Hulu to move to HTML 5 (or even QuickTime), but until they do, *alot* of users may disagree with Flash being a waste of time ;)
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    Edited by Danny Allen at 11/17/09 6:22 PM Danny Allen was starred Danny Allen was unstarred
    Image of drsquirrel drsquirrel
    11/18/09

    @Danny Allen: I wonder if the majority of Flash uses is Hulu.

    Hulu is another thing I couldn't give a care about either.

    By Flash sites I meant sites designed solely with flash, or flash for menus/important parts (and having fallback for flash-less users is a bad excuse).
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    Image of Nitesh Singh Nitesh Singh
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    Not to troll, but the "worlds most advanced operating system" (according to them) doesnt support GPU-accelerated video yet? #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Craig Cabrey Craig Cabrey
    11/17/09

    @Nitesh Singh: No, Apple just doesn't open the APIs up for public use. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of jonathan.eatherly jonathan.eatherly
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    Dell mini 10v hackintosh here. Big increase in speed! Mine is not running youtube or vimeo in hd well but southpark studios can do hd fullscreen now.
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    Image of RoseHizang RoseHizang
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    this update does absolutely NOTHING for macs. read the release notes, the improvements are for windows and linux only.
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    Danny Allen promoted this comment RoseHizang was starred RoseHizang was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @RoseHizang: [gizmodo.com] #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of George_P George_P
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    This post is erroneous. the Flash plugin does not support the Intel GMA950 graphics chipset that the Wind (and many other netbooks) run. The chipset does not even have the hardware to support it. So, it is probably in your head that you saw performance. Supported chipsets are Nvidia 8/9/100/200 series and the newer ones from ATI (don't remember the exact models). #flash101hacktintosh
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    Danny Allen approved this comment George_P was starred George_P was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @George_P: Read the post. I didn't say it's hardware acceleration, I said the improvements are most likely through better CPU usage. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of George_P George_P
    11/17/09

    @Danny Allen: Hi Danny. Do we have information from Adobe that the new version improves the CPU usage when no hardware acceleration is supported by the GPU? Tests will have to be run to measure whether there is an actual improvement or not. We have the same MSI model/specs (U100 with 2GB ram). I tested it on both Win7 and MacOSX and didn't see any difference compared to the previous version of Flash. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of ImAmac93 ImAmac93
    11/17/09

    @Danny Allen: I realize this doesnt have a ton to do with this topic but I just ordered a dell mini 10v to install OSX on and and it had the option to upgrade the CPU to the 1.66 atom 280 from the 1.60 270 for $25 would there be a noticeable difference in performance on flash and such? or is the difference insignificant? #flash101hacktintosh
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    Danny Allen promoted this comment ImAmac93 was starred ImAmac93 was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @ImAmac93: I'd get the upgrade for sure, but I doubt you'll get much difference in performance. Honestly, I wouldn't be basing any hardware buying decisions on a lil' extra CPU usage...wait and see if Apple lets Adobe give Mac Flash 10.1 GPU-acceleration...then buy an Nvidia Ion-based netbook ;) #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of ImAmac93 ImAmac93
    11/17/09

    @Danny Allen: but would a nvidia ion based netbook be as compatible with snow leopard as the dell mini 10v? I was under the impression that the 10v was still the best bet for hackintosh hardware support and functionality.. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @ImAmac93: Maybe "best bet for ease of setup", but if you're buying today (or black friday) I'd still grab a netbook with Ion. The Ion-powered HP Mini 311 Hackintosh has everything working but sound at the moment ([myhpmini.com]), and that may have been fixed already. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Nintenboy01 Nintenboy01
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    Is performance improved at all on old PowerPC Macs? #flash101hacktintosh
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    Danny Allen promoted this comment Nintenboy01 was starred Nintenboy01 was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @Nintenboy01: Flash 10.1 beta is only available for Intel-based Macs, I believe, sorry. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of chocolatebanana chocolatebanana
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    So this doesn't really have anything to do with hackintoshes, but rather any slow PC and any operating system in general, yes? #flash101hacktintosh
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    Danny Allen approved this comment chocolatebanana was starred chocolatebanana was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @chocolatebanana: "But this is good news for hackintoshes, and netbooks in general." This would suggest so, yes? #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of ricky.leverence ricky.leverence
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    It runs like crap, here.

    MacBook Pro, late 2006 (ATI x1600). I go to watch a Youtube video and I'd say about half of the frames drop.
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    Danny Allen approved this comment ricky.leverence was starred ricky.leverence was unstarred
    Image of Danny Allen Danny Allen
    11/17/09

    @ricky.leverence: Think it's the ATI chipset. See the AnandTech story. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of JackTheTripper JackTheTripper
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    I have the same wind model. This is great news. I'll try it tonight. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Turael Turael
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Is Good News for Hackintosh Netbooks
    I wish I could get 2gb of Ram in my Dell mini10v. All the 'this is how you tear apart your machine' videos apparently don't account for having a card reader on your motherboard. I got all the way down to the final step of removing the motherboard and it won't come out due to some unseen connection. :/ #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/17/09

    @Turael: That final step is a little touchy. You might have missed a screw or you might just be coming at it the wrong way. Mine was a little tough coming out, but you have to figure out the right angle to lift it out from. You also have to make sure that you pulled out the wireless card. if that card is still in, it will not lift out. I was actually able to just lift mine up and replace it without having to take out the whole mainboard, making it easier. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Turael Turael
    11/17/09

    @Nathan Obbards: You know. The wireless card must have been the issue in reality. Which I WISH I could have removed. Dell had a lot of the case screws in extremely tight. I couldn't remove the damn WiFi card screw to save my life without being in danger of stripping the little screw. :( #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/17/09

    @Turael: Well, here's my stance, if you strip the screw, tough luck but it doesn't matter, if you don't now you can add RAM and hackintosh :). One trick with tough screws is to put just a tiny drop of superglue on a screwdriver head that will fit in the screw and quickly get it in the head, let it dry for a second, then try unscrewing it. It gets you a more solid bite on the screw, but also lets you pull it out. Make sure you have a decent set of small screwdrivers when you try though.

    If you don't feel comfortable with doing that, I'm sorry I can't help more or another way. #flash101hacktintosh
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    Image of Turael Turael
    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: ooh the super glue tip sounds like a winner. Considering I hoped that part wouldn't matter and did every step up to removing the motherboard (getting the keyboard/palm rest off etc.) that isn't such a problem. Thanks for the tip! I got over disassembling hard to open things when I added ram to a 1st gen mac mini.
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    Image of webwbr webwbr
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please
    This is a HUGE improvement on my Dell Mini 9, not perfect, but I can at least watch Hulu now without going nuts with studdering. Let's bring on 10.2!
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    Danny Allen promoted this comment Edited by webwbr at 11/17/09 11:03 AM webwbr was starred webwbr was unstarred
    Image of Stigrevan Revanstig Stigrevan Revanstig
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please
    i have a problem with this version of flash on youtube hd movies the quality is crap it's even worse than normal quality. #flash
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    Danny Allen approved this comment Stigrevan Revanstig was starred Stigrevan Revanstig was unstarred
    Image of ScubaSteve ScubaSteve
    11/17/09

    @Stigrevan Revanstig:

    You may be suffering from an issue noted in the article.

    Short version: Some youtube HD videos have a non-standard width, which then defaults the player to software-based encoding. The Anandtech article has a config workaround for both FF and IE...and Flash and NVidia have stated that they can fix the issue in later releases of either the plugin and/or drivers.

    It's Beta. :) #flash
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    Image of You-can-pick-a-screen-name-later You-can-pick-a-screen-name-later
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please
    Are they planning on supporting non-intel based Macs? My poor old PPC Mac is feeling really left out these days... #flash
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    Image of exoren22 exoren22
    11/17/09

    @You-can-pick-a-screen-name-later: Ahh, planned obsolescence. I hope you can hang onto it until you can afford another expensive machine. #flash
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    AmishJohn promoted this comment exoren22 was starred exoren22 was unstarred
    Image of jibbly jibbly
    11/17/09

    @You-can-pick-a-screen-name-later: As Homer Simpson once said,"You chose fruit, you live with fruit!" #flash
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    Image of Pazu Pazu
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please
    Adobe is so funny. "Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs" my ass.

    OpenCL on Snow Leopard will offload processing to the GPU, and if they implemented their decoder using OpenCL they'd get GPU acceleration, not only for H.264 but for for any codec they want to, and without relying on proprietary APIs, as OpenCL is a standard now maintained by the Khronos Group.

    Let's rephrase that: "Adobe does not have the manpower or capacity to code to the required APIs".
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    Edited by Pazu at 11/17/09 9:22 AM Pazu was starred Pazu was unstarred
    Image of pj_rage pj_rage
    11/17/09

    @Pazu: Let's rephrase that again.. "Apple does not want to work with Adobe on the iPhone, so Adobe does not want to work with Apple on OS X." #flash
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    Image of orthorim orthorim
    11/17/09

    @pj_rage: This goes way back... Apple was pissed Adobe ported everything 1:1 to Windows, Adobe was pissed about iPhoto, etc etc. #flash
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    Pazu promoted this comment orthorim was starred orthorim was unstarred
    Image of Pazu Pazu
    11/17/09

    @pj_rage: in other words, corporate piss contests screwing up consumers again.

    That's why we need to stop using flash (or any other proprietary bs), and brace for an open web. But then, it will be another decade before MS implements all the HTML5 goodness in IE... #flash
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    Image of Les Mikesell Les Mikesell
    11/17/09

    @Pazu: This is why hardware companies should never be permitted to tie software to the hardware they sell - and vice versa. #flash
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    valkilmerisawful promoted this comment Les Mikesell was starred Les Mikesell was unstarred
    Image of pj_rage pj_rage
    11/17/09

    @Pazu: I don't own a computer running OS X, so I don't care about flash on OS X. I do own an iphone though, so I actually don't mind this pissing contest if it gets me flash for my iphone.

    Sure, in the long run I'm all for open standards, but in the short term, I'd like flash. If these (controversial) tactics help to make that happen, then I'm sorry OS X users have to suffer. Switch to linux or windows :) #flash
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    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    11/17/09

    @Les Mikesell: I don't think we'll be abolishing free enterprise any time soon. But feel free to void warranty's and tear the boxes open and install whatever you'd like! #flash
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    Image of bsoft bsoft
    11/17/09

    In reply to Flash 10.1 Tests: Hardware Accelerated HD Hulu and YouTube Video? Yes Please
    On my laptop (Acer 1410, Core 2 Solo 1.4GHz, Intel GMA X4500MHD) this made Hulu 360p playable in fullscreen (previously it dropped a ton of frames), but Hulu 480p seems to have an issue where it only runs at a very low framerate.

    YouTube HD was playable before, so no difference there other than lower CPU usage.

    Unfortunately, it seems that the scaling quality is completely messed up (it seems to be using nearest-neighbor rather than resampling), which is lame. Hopefully a Flash update or an Intel driver update will fix this. #flash
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