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Flash isn't what I want for HD Video, bugger that.
Flash also isn't something that I want people to start making COD 8 in to play on the webpage. It's getting a bit annoying now to find a "little" flash game that I want to play on the laptop away from my main machine, only to find that its just slow as crap.
HD in Flash, waste of time.
Oh btw, flash sites suck, stupid site designers. #flash
@drsquirrel: Hey, I'd love for Hulu to move to HTML 5 (or even QuickTime), but until they do, *alot* of users may disagree with Flash being a waste of time ;)
@Danny Allen: I wonder if the majority of Flash uses is Hulu.
Hulu is another thing I couldn't give a care about either.
By Flash sites I meant sites designed solely with flash, or flash for menus/important parts (and having fallback for flash-less users is a bad excuse).
This post is erroneous. the Flash plugin does not support the Intel GMA950 graphics chipset that the Wind (and many other netbooks) run. The chipset does not even have the hardware to support it. So, it is probably in your head that you saw performance. Supported chipsets are Nvidia 8/9/100/200 series and the newer ones from ATI (don't remember the exact models). #flash101hacktintosh
@George_P: Read the post. I didn't say it's hardware acceleration, I said the improvements are most likely through better CPU usage. #flash101hacktintosh
@Danny Allen: Hi Danny. Do we have information from Adobe that the new version improves the CPU usage when no hardware acceleration is supported by the GPU? Tests will have to be run to measure whether there is an actual improvement or not. We have the same MSI model/specs (U100 with 2GB ram). I tested it on both Win7 and MacOSX and didn't see any difference compared to the previous version of Flash. #flash101hacktintosh
@Danny Allen: I realize this doesnt have a ton to do with this topic but I just ordered a dell mini 10v to install OSX on and and it had the option to upgrade the CPU to the 1.66 atom 280 from the 1.60 270 for $25 would there be a noticeable difference in performance on flash and such? or is the difference insignificant? #flash101hacktintosh
@ImAmac93: I'd get the upgrade for sure, but I doubt you'll get much difference in performance. Honestly, I wouldn't be basing any hardware buying decisions on a lil' extra CPU usage...wait and see if Apple lets Adobe give Mac Flash 10.1 GPU-acceleration...then buy an Nvidia Ion-based netbook ;) #flash101hacktintosh
@Danny Allen: but would a nvidia ion based netbook be as compatible with snow leopard as the dell mini 10v? I was under the impression that the 10v was still the best bet for hackintosh hardware support and functionality.. #flash101hacktintosh
@ImAmac93: Maybe "best bet for ease of setup", but if you're buying today (or black friday) I'd still grab a netbook with Ion. The Ion-powered HP Mini 311 Hackintosh has everything working but sound at the moment ([myhpmini.com]), and that may have been fixed already. #flash101hacktintosh
I wish I could get 2gb of Ram in my Dell mini10v. All the 'this is how you tear apart your machine' videos apparently don't account for having a card reader on your motherboard. I got all the way down to the final step of removing the motherboard and it won't come out due to some unseen connection. :/ #flash101hacktintosh
@Turael: That final step is a little touchy. You might have missed a screw or you might just be coming at it the wrong way. Mine was a little tough coming out, but you have to figure out the right angle to lift it out from. You also have to make sure that you pulled out the wireless card. if that card is still in, it will not lift out. I was actually able to just lift mine up and replace it without having to take out the whole mainboard, making it easier. #flash101hacktintosh
@Nathan Obbards: You know. The wireless card must have been the issue in reality. Which I WISH I could have removed. Dell had a lot of the case screws in extremely tight. I couldn't remove the damn WiFi card screw to save my life without being in danger of stripping the little screw. :( #flash101hacktintosh
@Turael: Well, here's my stance, if you strip the screw, tough luck but it doesn't matter, if you don't now you can add RAM and hackintosh :). One trick with tough screws is to put just a tiny drop of superglue on a screwdriver head that will fit in the screw and quickly get it in the head, let it dry for a second, then try unscrewing it. It gets you a more solid bite on the screw, but also lets you pull it out. Make sure you have a decent set of small screwdrivers when you try though.
If you don't feel comfortable with doing that, I'm sorry I can't help more or another way. #flash101hacktintosh
@Nathan Obbards: ooh the super glue tip sounds like a winner. Considering I hoped that part wouldn't matter and did every step up to removing the motherboard (getting the keyboard/palm rest off etc.) that isn't such a problem. Thanks for the tip! I got over disassembling hard to open things when I added ram to a 1st gen mac mini.
You may be suffering from an issue noted in the article.
Short version: Some youtube HD videos have a non-standard width, which then defaults the player to software-based encoding. The Anandtech article has a config workaround for both FF and IE...and Flash and NVidia have stated that they can fix the issue in later releases of either the plugin and/or drivers.
Adobe is so funny. "Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs" my ass.
OpenCL on Snow Leopard will offload processing to the GPU, and if they implemented their decoder using OpenCL they'd get GPU acceleration, not only for H.264 but for for any codec they want to, and without relying on proprietary APIs, as OpenCL is a standard now maintained by the Khronos Group.
Let's rephrase that: "Adobe does not have the manpower or capacity to code to the required APIs".
@pj_rage: in other words, corporate piss contests screwing up consumers again.
That's why we need to stop using flash (or any other proprietary bs), and brace for an open web. But then, it will be another decade before MS implements all the HTML5 goodness in IE... #flash
@Pazu: I don't own a computer running OS X, so I don't care about flash on OS X. I do own an iphone though, so I actually don't mind this pissing contest if it gets me flash for my iphone.
Sure, in the long run I'm all for open standards, but in the short term, I'd like flash. If these (controversial) tactics help to make that happen, then I'm sorry OS X users have to suffer. Switch to linux or windows :) #flash
@Les Mikesell: I don't think we'll be abolishing free enterprise any time soon. But feel free to void warranty's and tear the boxes open and install whatever you'd like! #flash
On my laptop (Acer 1410, Core 2 Solo 1.4GHz, Intel GMA X4500MHD) this made Hulu 360p playable in fullscreen (previously it dropped a ton of frames), but Hulu 480p seems to have an issue where it only runs at a very low framerate.
YouTube HD was playable before, so no difference there other than lower CPU usage.
Unfortunately, it seems that the scaling quality is completely messed up (it seems to be using nearest-neighbor rather than resampling), which is lame. Hopefully a Flash update or an Intel driver update will fix this. #flash
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Flash also isn't something that I want people to start making COD 8 in to play on the webpage. It's getting a bit annoying now to find a "little" flash game that I want to play on the laptop away from my main machine, only to find that its just slow as crap.
HD in Flash, waste of time.
Oh btw, flash sites suck, stupid site designers. #flash
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If you don't feel comfortable with doing that, I'm sorry I can't help more or another way. #flash101hacktintosh
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You may be suffering from an issue noted in the article.
Short version: Some youtube HD videos have a non-standard width, which then defaults the player to software-based encoding. The Anandtech article has a config workaround for both FF and IE...and Flash and NVidia have stated that they can fix the issue in later releases of either the plugin and/or drivers.
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OpenCL on Snow Leopard will offload processing to the GPU, and if they implemented their decoder using OpenCL they'd get GPU acceleration, not only for H.264 but for for any codec they want to, and without relying on proprietary APIs, as OpenCL is a standard now maintained by the Khronos Group.
Let's rephrase that: "Adobe does not have the manpower or capacity to code to the required APIs".
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That's why we need to stop using flash (or any other proprietary bs), and brace for an open web. But then, it will be another decade before MS implements all the HTML5 goodness in IE... #flash
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Sure, in the long run I'm all for open standards, but in the short term, I'd like flash. If these (controversial) tactics help to make that happen, then I'm sorry OS X users have to suffer. Switch to linux or windows :) #flash
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YouTube HD was playable before, so no difference there other than lower CPU usage.
Unfortunately, it seems that the scaling quality is completely messed up (it seems to be using nearest-neighbor rather than resampling), which is lame. Hopefully a Flash update or an Intel driver update will fix this. #flash