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Flash isn't what I want for HD Video, bugger that.
Flash also isn't something that I want people to start making COD 8 in to play on the webpage. It's getting a bit annoying now to find a "little" flash game that I want to play on the laptop away from my main machine, only to find that its just slow as crap.
HD in Flash, waste of time.
Oh btw, flash sites suck, stupid site designers. #flash
@drsquirrel: Hey, I'd love for Hulu to move to HTML 5 (or even QuickTime), but until they do, *alot* of users may disagree with Flash being a waste of time ;)
@Danny Allen: I wonder if the majority of Flash uses is Hulu.
Hulu is another thing I couldn't give a care about either.
By Flash sites I meant sites designed solely with flash, or flash for menus/important parts (and having fallback for flash-less users is a bad excuse).
You may be suffering from an issue noted in the article.
Short version: Some youtube HD videos have a non-standard width, which then defaults the player to software-based encoding. The Anandtech article has a config workaround for both FF and IE...and Flash and NVidia have stated that they can fix the issue in later releases of either the plugin and/or drivers.
Adobe is so funny. "Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs" my ass.
OpenCL on Snow Leopard will offload processing to the GPU, and if they implemented their decoder using OpenCL they'd get GPU acceleration, not only for H.264 but for for any codec they want to, and without relying on proprietary APIs, as OpenCL is a standard now maintained by the Khronos Group.
Let's rephrase that: "Adobe does not have the manpower or capacity to code to the required APIs".
@pj_rage: in other words, corporate piss contests screwing up consumers again.
That's why we need to stop using flash (or any other proprietary bs), and brace for an open web. But then, it will be another decade before MS implements all the HTML5 goodness in IE... #flash
@Pazu: I don't own a computer running OS X, so I don't care about flash on OS X. I do own an iphone though, so I actually don't mind this pissing contest if it gets me flash for my iphone.
Sure, in the long run I'm all for open standards, but in the short term, I'd like flash. If these (controversial) tactics help to make that happen, then I'm sorry OS X users have to suffer. Switch to linux or windows :) #flash
@Les Mikesell: I don't think we'll be abolishing free enterprise any time soon. But feel free to void warranty's and tear the boxes open and install whatever you'd like! #flash
On my laptop (Acer 1410, Core 2 Solo 1.4GHz, Intel GMA X4500MHD) this made Hulu 360p playable in fullscreen (previously it dropped a ton of frames), but Hulu 480p seems to have an issue where it only runs at a very low framerate.
YouTube HD was playable before, so no difference there other than lower CPU usage.
Unfortunately, it seems that the scaling quality is completely messed up (it seems to be using nearest-neighbor rather than resampling), which is lame. Hopefully a Flash update or an Intel driver update will fix this. #flash
This is one of the reasons why there's friction between Apple and Adobe. Flash versions in OS X never get fully optimized like their Windows counterparts. Ever.
I spend a lot of time coding for Flash, but I'm looking forward to replacing it in the future with HTML5. #flash
@Eulatos: it's bad enough dealing with flash updates, browser compliance is worse- I have been looking @ some beta html5 pages and they all don't work or are screwed up with opera, firefox and IE- I have a feeling it's going to be a while before any of it just "works" with html5 #flash
@whormongr: well, you're right. It's going to be a while before everything just works, but the devolpment is going in the right direction and hopefully it will be worth the effort.
... except that I don't see MS implementing HTML5 in IE in the next decade. Maybe, just maybe, this time people will switch to other browsers instead of hampering the advancement of the web. #flash
Installed it. Youtube works great, even at 1080p (when you add the &fmt=37 on some brand new 1080p videos).
The PureVideo2 implementation from Adobe is NOT as fast as CoreAVC's. Testing it on an older PC, a P4 at 3 Ghz (so we can see the speed difference more clearly), CoreAVC manages to playback 1080/30p video with just 15% CPU utilization, but Flash needs about 70%-90%.
For 720p video, it seems to be caching some stuff in the beginning and so it uses about 70%-80% in the beginning, but after it's done with that, it goes down to about 20%.
Vimeo.com on the other hand, has problems with Flash 10.1. Flash crashes when exiting from full screen (reproducible here), videos don't start to play when you press "play" (you will have to re-press play), if you press in the timeline to go to a different time in the video it won't play immediately (even if it's cashed), and in *some* h.264 Vimeo re-encodings (like for one of my videos, but not all), playing the video accelerated is *slower* than in just software (reproducible behavior for the specific video)! These problems didn't exist with Flash 10.0.32.
GeForce 8600 GTS here, XP SP3 32bit, 3 GB RAM, with 186.18 nVidia drivers. If any interested Adobe engineer is reading this, I can provide more details.
"Hardware-accelerated H.264 decoding is supported on some video cards and drivers running on Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Linux and Mac OS X hardware-accelerated decoding is not supported in this version." #flash
This has stunned me. I struggle to find the words to describe how I feel.
I just installed 10.1 and it's as if I just got sight for the very first time. No stuttering. No dropped frames. Audio and video in sync. Am I dreaming? This can't be real. Somebody pinch me. #flash
Can we please banish flash already just like we (mostly) did with animated GIFs? I have tried to circumvent every Adobe product out there (save Photoshop) as they have become buggier, bulkier, demanding, and far too resource intensive over time. I remember a time when reader was actually somewhat lightweight. #flash
@Fractal the Meek: Well, that all depends on what the flash content is. Is it the good kind of flash or the adobe kind? I mean, if it's the good flashing, I can deal with the kriffing .pdf format. #flash
@Nathan Obbards: Well, it's all rumors at this point, but perhaps they refer to The Flash content. I don't imagine that turning out well coming from Adobe though. #flash
@Nathan Obbards: flash is actually the exact opposite of that, it is (and really has been) a safer and more simplified multimedia display tool for the web and web based applications- it is only now getting into it's full potential with video streaming- it isn't just people making dancing dogs or flashing colors or whatfuck #flash
@whormongr: Um, no. Flash is crap. It's not safer. And, it's not simpler.
Flash was once used as a convenience, but the state of HTML has long since caught up.
You don't have to stream video in a custom made flash video player. Many would prefer that you didn't. At least then, I'd have some hope of having hardware accelerated videos on my Linux box. #flash
@Nathan Obbards: I wish we would remplace it in the HTML format. I mean pick one or just use both and have support for both h264 and theora and just get over with it and replace flash, and give native support to video on browser. #flash
It's gorgeous, and bizarrely informative (or informatively bizarre?)... but what the hell is its purpose? The Living Light article just calls it a "project". Best I can come up with is art installation to keep people thinking about how they're impacting their local air quality? It's also good for long-term data collection, I guess.
Seems kinda silly as a daily warning system. People normally have shit to do in certain neighborhoods, so they can't just say, "Oh, air quality's bad in that area today, I guess I won't go," or, "Hey, air quality's bitchin' uptown, think I'll check that out!" Weekends would be another matter, I guess. #livinglight
That is pretty amazing. I'd love to have something similar to this just hanging in my room, not for this purpose, but it looks like something out of stargate XD
If anyone would like to let me know how to do the laser etching and such to make glass light up like that, please let me know, DIY FTW! :D #livinglight
@Jaredu: I'm gonna guess (and not RTFA) that the glass is simply acid etched. The glass panels are then made to light up like that by putting LEDs on the edge of the glass. #livinglight
They can laser etch any vector or raster image into anything from plate steel to blue jeans. They can also do glass. Oh, and if anyone is interested they told me they can probably do iPhones (I was specifically asking about first gen, not sure how the plastic would hold up).
After you etch the glass, just end-light it with a LED strip.
11/17/09
Flash also isn't something that I want people to start making COD 8 in to play on the webpage. It's getting a bit annoying now to find a "little" flash game that I want to play on the laptop away from my main machine, only to find that its just slow as crap.
HD in Flash, waste of time.
Oh btw, flash sites suck, stupid site designers. #flash
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Hulu is another thing I couldn't give a care about either.
By Flash sites I meant sites designed solely with flash, or flash for menus/important parts (and having fallback for flash-less users is a bad excuse).
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You may be suffering from an issue noted in the article.
Short version: Some youtube HD videos have a non-standard width, which then defaults the player to software-based encoding. The Anandtech article has a config workaround for both FF and IE...and Flash and NVidia have stated that they can fix the issue in later releases of either the plugin and/or drivers.
It's Beta. :) #flash
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OpenCL on Snow Leopard will offload processing to the GPU, and if they implemented their decoder using OpenCL they'd get GPU acceleration, not only for H.264 but for for any codec they want to, and without relying on proprietary APIs, as OpenCL is a standard now maintained by the Khronos Group.
Let's rephrase that: "Adobe does not have the manpower or capacity to code to the required APIs".
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That's why we need to stop using flash (or any other proprietary bs), and brace for an open web. But then, it will be another decade before MS implements all the HTML5 goodness in IE... #flash
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Sure, in the long run I'm all for open standards, but in the short term, I'd like flash. If these (controversial) tactics help to make that happen, then I'm sorry OS X users have to suffer. Switch to linux or windows :) #flash
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YouTube HD was playable before, so no difference there other than lower CPU usage.
Unfortunately, it seems that the scaling quality is completely messed up (it seems to be using nearest-neighbor rather than resampling), which is lame. Hopefully a Flash update or an Intel driver update will fix this. #flash
11/17/09
I spend a lot of time coding for Flash, but I'm looking forward to replacing it in the future with HTML5. #flash
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Maybe update FF. #flash
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... except that I don't see MS implementing HTML5 in IE in the next decade. Maybe, just maybe, this time people will switch to other browsers instead of hampering the advancement of the web. #flash
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When your done loading it up (make sure to unistall your current versions of Flash first) use this video to see how much faster it really is.
11/17/09
The PureVideo2 implementation from Adobe is NOT as fast as CoreAVC's. Testing it on an older PC, a P4 at 3 Ghz (so we can see the speed difference more clearly), CoreAVC manages to playback 1080/30p video with just 15% CPU utilization, but Flash needs about 70%-90%.
For 720p video, it seems to be caching some stuff in the beginning and so it uses about 70%-80% in the beginning, but after it's done with that, it goes down to about 20%.
Vimeo.com on the other hand, has problems with Flash 10.1. Flash crashes when exiting from full screen (reproducible here), videos don't start to play when you press "play" (you will have to re-press play), if you press in the timeline to go to a different time in the video it won't play immediately (even if it's cashed), and in *some* h.264 Vimeo re-encodings (like for one of my videos, but not all), playing the video accelerated is *slower* than in just software (reproducible behavior for the specific video)! These problems didn't exist with Flash 10.0.32.
GeForce 8600 GTS here, XP SP3 32bit, 3 GB RAM, with 186.18 nVidia drivers. If any interested Adobe engineer is reading this, I can provide more details.
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I just installed 10.1 and it's as if I just got sight for the very first time. No stuttering. No dropped frames. Audio and video in sync. Am I dreaming? This can't be real. Somebody pinch me. #flash
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@Nathan Obbards: Well, it's all rumors at this point, but perhaps they refer to The Flash content. I don't imagine that turning out well coming from Adobe though. #flash
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Flash was once used as a convenience, but the state of HTML has long since caught up.
You don't have to stream video in a custom made flash video player. Many would prefer that you didn't. At least then, I'd have some hope of having hardware accelerated videos on my Linux box. #flash
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11/02/09
Seems kinda silly as a daily warning system. People normally have shit to do in certain neighborhoods, so they can't just say, "Oh, air quality's bad in that area today, I guess I won't go," or, "Hey, air quality's bitchin' uptown, think I'll check that out!" Weekends would be another matter, I guess. #livinglight
11/02/09
If anyone would like to let me know how to do the laser etching and such to make glass light up like that, please let me know, DIY FTW! :D #livinglight
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They can laser etch any vector or raster image into anything from plate steel to blue jeans. They can also do glass. Oh, and if anyone is interested they told me they can probably do iPhones (I was specifically asking about first gen, not sure how the plastic would hold up).
After you etch the glass, just end-light it with a LED strip.