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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/21/09

    In reply to The World’s Largest Earthquake-Safe Building
    I'd be impressed. But the Mayans managed to build this stuff quite a while ago...
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    11/21/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: The Mayans had airports?
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/21/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: No one claimed that this airport was supposed to be a noticeable milestone in engineering.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/21/09

    @Gann: Dude. The mayans had airports for aliens.
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    11/21/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Also, there's evidence that a large earthquake may have accelerated the Mayan collapse:

    [adsabs.harvard.edu]
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/21/09

    @Gann: Right, but figure the mayan culture spanned several hundred years. They had their peak, and then a steady decline. You can look at the architecture and determine the time period in which a structure was built.
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    11/21/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: The article talks about earthquake damage to the ruins of the buildings being excavated. These are their temples, their pinnacle of architectural achievement. This 2 million square foot airport terminal is unfathomably more complex than their stone complexes, and can withstand a M=8.0 quake. To denigrate this because "the Mayans managed to build this stuff quite a while ago" is just flat out wrong.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/21/09

    @Gann: OK, how about this. They managed to do it a long time ago without cranes, electricity, welding, advance metalurgy, and autocad.
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    11/21/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: They did do something amazing with what they had, but that something amazing was apparently not earthquake proof.

    As a side note, this terminal was built with "cranes, electricity, welding, advance metalurgy, and autocad", but without slavery.
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    11/21/09

    @Gann: How do you know that the builders were not economic slaves?
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    11/21/09

    In reply to The World’s Largest Earthquake-Safe Building
    Maybe France should take a cue from this while they're rebuilding CDG.
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    Image of Thorax707 Thorax707
    11/21/09

    In reply to The World’s Largest Earthquake-Safe Building
    Note to fat guys, don't lean against the Istanbul airport.
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    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    Fatal flaw? I'm gonna go with Tsunami/Perfect Storm for #1. Pilots having to qualify for landing on an aircraft carrier to get a route into San Diego (ask one how it is to land on one in rolling seas...) for #2. And finally, the need for water taxis to get me and my luggage back to my car as #3. Yeah, this will happen.... not. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of AaronProtesilaus AaronProtesilaus
    10/27/09

    @brianmi40:

    A tsunami would more likely destroy a traditional airport, especially a coastal one. At 10 miles out to sea, a "normal" tsunami wouldn't appear any different than a normal wave. the floating tarmac itself would suffer practically no damage at all. A mega-tsunami (like in the movies) would destroy everything either way so your point there is moot

    To your second point, carrier landings are so difficult because of how short the landing deck is. A pilot has to land on essentially a floating postage stamp, --in fact landing near one edge of said stamp. This airport will be full-sized with 747-capable runways which are is 17,000+ ft long, almost 30 times longer than a supercarrier's total deck length (about 700ft).

    I am also thinking that a full-sized airport has got to weigh many orders of magnitude more than a supercarrier and if it will have 4 stories worth of retail and service space above the water, then dealing with 20 ft-plus storm waves should not be a problem.

    I have to agree that getting to and from the airport itself would be an unnecessarily long, expensive, and dangerous process.

    It might not practical now but it isn't undo-able or ridiculous. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    10/28/09

    @AaronProtesilaus: Also note that on a carrier the runway is moving away from you - forwards AND sideways, in addition to pitching and yawing. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    Didn't Cobra try to do this, and then the GI Joes crashed a giant helicopter into it? #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of frigg frigg
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    If there is a fatal flaw it's that there don't appear to be plans to ferry passengers off the island. For the first year or so of operation, it's easy to see how something like that could be overlooked, with passengers simply booking rooms in the hotels and taking classes at the university to fill up their time. But at some point, the platform will be saturated with passengers, and they'll need to develop some system for either accommodating larger numbers of arriving passengers indefinitely, or moving them to another location. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of malvones malvones
    10/27/09

    @frigg: I could envision a vast complex of warehouses to house the passengers, and perhaps a carrier-style hangar system for the mounting number of idling jets. Actually, the maintenance on the jets alone would employ hundreds, and stimulate the regional economy. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of ludwigk ludwigk
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    Can they not build a peninsula into the ocean instead of this free-standing floating doohickey? I was in Korea last summer where they also have trouble finding places to put things, and they built an airport in the sea as well, but with a man-made peninsula.

    You know if they build this thing, some guy will eventually put a strike team together to capture it, and take it for an expensive joy ride. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of F1Morgan F1Morgan
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own

    Um have any of you heard of the Osaka airport, so this Mr. Englund didn't come up with this. The Japanese made a massive island to make the Osaka airport, its even a modern marvels episode or something.... #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    10/27/09

    @F1Morgan: If its free floating I agree its a F'n bad idea #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    10/27/09

    @F1Morgan: Yes, but that is an ISLAND - this thing is a barge. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    As a native San Diegan, I can tell you that this idea has been around for awhile. I remember reading an article about it in the 4th grade, some 13 years ago. Interesting to see it pop back up though. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of Skyman747 Skyman747
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    They don't have any other options. Lindbergh sure as hell isn't expanding downtown, and using Miramar isn't going to be allowed by residents. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of urbanrio urbanrio
    10/27/09

    @Skyman747: When SD needs it badly enough the powers that be will tell Miramar to suck it. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    10/27/09

    @Skyman747: I live in Chula Vista and from what I understand they want to build an international airport out here.

    ... that and a Chargers stadium. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    And this is where we Bay Area residents come in and yell, "That's what you guys get for blanketing yourself under a suburb circuit board!"

    "Meanwhile we've got 3 fucking airports! Airports! FUCKING! Hell yeah!!"

    If you can't tell from the "@%*$ing," I'm obviously kidding. : P
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    But seriously, how the hell are you going to do an evacuation plan if a tanker crashes into it? (Obviously the space around the airport would be restricted.) Plus, transportation by ferry would be SLOW. Passengers would get pretty pissed off alright.

    EDIT: Hoorah, I've done and created another useless tag.
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    spannu promoted this comment Edited by (Starman) Starman at 10/27/09 2:48 AM (Starman) Starman was starred (Starman) Starman was unstarred
    Image of spannu spannu
    10/27/09

    @(Starman) AnalysisDialysis: Obviously, the airport would only be accessible via jetpack. SFO, OAK, and SJC will all sink into the sea someday, so these guys will win eventually. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    10/27/09

    @spannu: Touche, but at least when we sink, everything's all gonna be abandoned anyways and new airports will be built.

    Meanwhile, a tanker hits the airport, and then everyone is still on it. They all die, but on your plus side, it'll become the Atlantis of the West Coast! #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of F1Morgan F1Morgan
    10/27/09

    @spannu: Osaka has a train to the mainland #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    10/27/09

    @F1Morgan: Where we're going, we don't need railroads. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    Image of ucnyc2 ucnyc2
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    I live in San Diego they've been talking about this for years. This city's government is "Enron" by the sea. This will never happen although it would be awesome to see.
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    Image of Jay Swanson Jay Swanson
    10/27/09

    In reply to San Diego Floating Airport Would Be A City Of Its Own
    Same basic concept as Kansai International in Osaka, although they built an artificial island as opposed to the "oil rig" design here. Given the land options in San Diego, this might not be a bad idea. #floatingcaliforniaairport
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    10/20/09

    In reply to New Apple Products Leaked, Sources Claim
    Apple rumors doesn't last very long. #apple
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    10/20/09

    In reply to New Apple Products Leaked, Sources Claim
    Seriously... how hard is it to put in 4gb STANDARD? It would cost wholesale like $10 #apple
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