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So far I've seen the specs, the pictures, the reviews, and the insides. Now all I need is to try one out for myself. If I have a good experience from that, Apple will be getting my money.
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The i7 tech looks pretty impressive. I will most likely building a Windows 7 box with i7 as well.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to max out my i7 920 @ 4.1GHz. So far my record is 35%... while still hauling another 4 threads with absolutely nothing to do.
From what I understand (since there isn't too many tips to how the i5 would do), the i7 has four cores, while C2D has 2, and C2Quatro has 4. But the i7 supports hype-threading over everything else, runs faster and has the turbo-boost feature as well. Am I understanding this right? How does Core 2 Extreme fit into this? I'm looking to get the i5 core since its "incredibly fast", are there any direct comparisons? Thanks.
Apple not offering an SSD in the Core i7 iMac is a crime.
In 2010, to be using such an outstanding computer with a mechanical drive cripples the entire system.
Don't get me started on the GPU - this would be an outstanding gaming computer, but the best video card they offer is about on par with my 3-year-old 8800 GTX.
If they would just let users access these friggin parts like other PCs it wouldn't matter.
@brundlefly76: Agreed, especially considering how much they are charging. Design has a cost but it is not everything.
Putting an SSD would dramatically increase performance. Considering the parallel nature of a GPU, putting some GPGPU stuff in OS X with a good GPU would dramatically increase performance.
@blash: but that's what makes Apple well... Apple. They monopolize their products so that they can mark up the product to whatever they want, thus shafting the user in the end and not allowing for competitive pricing and all at the same time forcing you to pay boat loads to fix it.
@Stephen Bruner: who's talking about fixing? Proficient users (and therefore, 3rd party repair services) can fix their own Macs just like any kind of machine (given the correct tools and parts), we're talking about initial options. No real point in paying that part of the built-in cost of the base price for the included HDD when you're just going to pay for a SSD to install anyways. Apple offering an SSD etc. settles these qualms.
@x23: emphasis on "good GPU" and an attempt at an understatement. Meaning, the OpenCL stuff could be better if Apple put in... say, 5870's rather than 9400M's.
Some of this info is innacurate. The i5/i7 in the imacs are lynnfield, meaning no quick path (rather DMI), and no triple channel memory (rather dual channel). Only Bloomfield i7's have QPI and triple channel.
I'm a photographer and can speak to the speed increase in Aperture. Previously I had a Core 2 Duo 2.16 (I believe... it's a macbook pro) and upgraded to the i7. The speed difference is AMAZING! I can load my 150GB library in the time the C2D loads the splash screen when launching the application. Thumbnails and previews generate MUCH faster, so I don't have to pause after importing a batch before I can actually use the app.
One of the things I noticed using iStats Menu is that all the native apple apps utilize all the cores, even the hyperthreading, whereas lots of older apps don't (as you pointed out). To me, it's worth the investment to "future proof" the computer. As devs take advantage of GCD, I'm going to see huge performance increases w/out actually doing any upgrading to the machine.
This is my 5th Mac since converting from Windows in college, and man, this is easily the best machine I've ever owned.
it almost seems like a no brainer to go for the i7 if you're decision is between the i5 and the i7. however, making the jump from the c2d to the 'i#' chips is a bit of a harder sell at this point. i, too, am patient enough to wait for the refresh...assuming that refresh is sometime within the next week ;)
Or you could build an i5 Hackintosh for around $700, overclock it and see benchmarks comparable to the stock i7 iMac. But you know...that would be cheating.
@Kaiser-Machead: Nope, already had the display for connecting to my MacBook. I suppose the more suitable comparison would be between my system and a $2000+ Mac Pro. Including the display I have about $1320 total invested. If I'm buying a notebook it's going to be Apple hardware hands down but with a desktop you just get so much more for the money with a Hackintosh.
@Razta: you have to push it fast. the faster you push it, the faster it goes. It's like doing the bonus stage in street fighter 2 with E-honda or Chun-li (or Blanka. but nobody picks Blanka.)
@Razta: In a lot of cases, yes. My 286 had a Turbo switch instead of a button, but it would double the speed of the CPU from 8MHz to 16MHz.
Ultimate POWAH!
the core i7's in the new iMacs only support a 2 channel memory bus since they use the new Lynnfield architecture, which is socket LGA1156. the older core i7's, bloomfield architecture, that use socket LGA1366 are capabale of tri-channel memory.
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The i7 tech looks pretty impressive. I will most likely building a Windows 7 box with i7 as well.
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The pain....the pain...
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Read: [en.wikipedia.org]
and
[en.wikipedia.org]
The second article explains why i7 rocks so much ass at everything you do.
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In 2010, to be using such an outstanding computer with a mechanical drive cripples the entire system.
Don't get me started on the GPU - this would be an outstanding gaming computer, but the best video card they offer is about on par with my 3-year-old 8800 GTX.
If they would just let users access these friggin parts like other PCs it wouldn't matter.
Of course, I will still get one anyway.
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Putting an SSD would dramatically increase performance. Considering the parallel nature of a GPU, putting some GPGPU stuff in OS X with a good GPU would dramatically increase performance.
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OpenCL is GPGPU is it not? OpenCL is available under 10.6 for developers to take advantage of.
[arstechnica.com]
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One of the things I noticed using iStats Menu is that all the native apple apps utilize all the cores, even the hyperthreading, whereas lots of older apps don't (as you pointed out). To me, it's worth the investment to "future proof" the computer. As devs take advantage of GCD, I'm going to see huge performance increases w/out actually doing any upgrading to the machine.
This is my 5th Mac since converting from Windows in college, and man, this is easily the best machine I've ever owned.
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I wish I could gut a G4 case and make a Hack-en-Mac out of that, but I have nor the tools or the patience.
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So the new feature is Turbo?
Meh. My old PC had Turbo. It's nice to see that the new iMacs can keep up with a 386/20 with 8MB of RAM.
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Did it actually do a damn thing other than light up a idiot light?
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Ultimate POWAH!
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