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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    12/02/09

    In reply to Motorola Sholes Returns, Looks Like a Keyboard-Less Droid
    Needs to be GSM and sell it WITHOUT a data plan and I'd buy it for $399.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @dagamer34: Why?

    There are hundreds of thin little touchscreen dumbphones out there. Why would you get a smartphone and leave out the data part?

    It would be worth more with only a data plan.

    Edit: Oh and it is GSM.
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/02/09 12:31 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of geolemon geolemon
    12/02/09

    @tande04: Why mandate a data plan? I've got wifi in my house, at work, and often when out and about.

    Only people who NEED internet all the time should have to pay for data plans...
    ...not people who just want to use certain features when opportunities allow. And for most of us - that's all the time we are home and work anyway.
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    Image of iamxyj iamxyj
    12/02/09

    @tande04: 95% of the time I am somewhere that has WiFi access. I wouldn't pay $30 extra a month to fill in that extra 5% of the time. Give me the phone without data plan plz.
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    Image of Genetic_Bloom Genetic_Bloom
    12/02/09

    @tande04: How do we know it's GSM? If it's part of the Droid line like it said in the article it's going to be on Verizon since that's what all of their Android phones go by, and that means it's going to be CDMA. We don't know if that's true or not, but I don't think we can be sure that it's GSM either.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @geolemon: I actually wasn't even thinking about wi-fi at the time I wrote that.

    Still I think thats a stretch. Phone companies probably shouldn't "mandate" anything but thats a whole 'nother argument. You want a data plan with a smartphone because thats the whole idea behind it. While you're out and about. While you're not at home or work. If thats not what you're using it for you should really be looking at another phone.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @Genetic_Bloom: Its not part of the droid line.

    The article is wrong. They just took it out of the tips feed and didn't do a very good job of replicating the real story (I mean they didn't even get the name right).
    Its just another android phone from motorola.

    We know for sure its GSM because its UTMS/HSDPA. Rumor has it hitting t-mobile.
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/02/09 1:10 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @iamxyj: I don't know.

    I think its silly. Get a laptop, get a netbook (heck get a zune HD or iPod touch). You want a smart phone pay the data plan.

    Trying to use a smartphone like that is silly in my opinion. You want a phone for when you're on the road. You want a phone for when you're at a game. You want a phone for when you're out on the town. I've tried the wi-fi only option with a touch and its pointless.

    Wi-fi is not that ubiquitous. In some ways its even harder now because of some of the security holes you have to jump through.
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/02/09 1:19 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of OGHowie OGHowie
    12/02/09

    @dagamer34:

    Do companies force data plans on people that pay full retail?

    I understand forcing it on people who are getting discounts, but not forcing data on people who pay retail would make sense.
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    tande04 promoted this comment OGHowie was starred OGHowie was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @OGHowie: I think they base it off the device and not what you pay for it.
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    Image of iamxyj iamxyj
    12/02/09

    @tande04: I know what you mean.

    I would never get an iPod touch or Zune HD because I already have a perfectly usable MP3 player (1st gen iPod nano). I want an Internet capable device, but most importantly I want it to be a phone so I don't have to carry around multiple gadgets.

    When I say I have WiFi access 95% of the time, I don't mean jumping through security holes to get the access. I actually have legit access.

    Maybe it's just because I don't really use popular social networking sites/things such as facebook and twitter so I don't need to have Internet access when I'm on the road.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @iamxyj: I just think its silly and I don't understand it.

    If you want something to look at the internet on at home or work they've had those for 30 years, they're called computers.

    If you aren't using a smartphone as its intended with a data plan there are lots of other devices out there that will better serve your purposes.
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    Image of Webran61 Webran61
    12/02/09

    In reply to Motorola Sholes Returns, Looks Like a Keyboard-Less Droid
    Is the Sholes destined for another network, or will Verizon get that too?
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    @Webran61: Sholes is on VZW.

    Sholes tablet looks to be going to one of the GSM carriers.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/02/09

    In reply to Motorola Sholes Returns, Looks Like a Keyboard-Less Droid
    Its being refered to as "tablet" because it lacks the keyboard and because thats what its called.

    Sholes = Droid
    Sholes tablet = whatever they end up calling it.

    [mobile.engadget.com]
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    Edited by tande04 at 12/02/09 12:14 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
    12/01/09

    In reply to Zii Lives: First Look at the 1080p Android-Powered Trinity Phone
    Why is it all these new phones with dedicated OpenGL accelerators never seem to have physical game controls?

    Man cannot game by touchscreen alone.
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    HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. was starred HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of OrbitalGun OrbitalGun
    12/01/09

    In reply to LEAK: The Google Phone "Is a Certainty"
    This would be perfect for me. I recently picked up an HTC Hero from Sprint, and the first thing I did was grab the Google Voice app and set it to replace all of the normal phone functions (voice, SMS, voicemail), so it's like my Sprint number doesn't even exist. I work in a solid steel building, and data signals from Sprint's network can barely penetrate. So it's great having my phone set up to use the building's wireless, letting me make calls from areas that are complete dead zones for everyone else.
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    Edited by OrbitalGun at 12/01/09 3:12 PM OrbitalGun was starred OrbitalGun was unstarred
    Image of lpranal lpranal
    12/01/09

    In reply to Android 2.1 (With HTC Sense) Leaked for HTC Hero
    Can we expect the Eris to follow shortly? They seem to be (almost) the same phone.
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    Image of nicholas.helling nicholas.helling
    12/01/09

    @lpranal: Unfortunately, they're not exactly the same phone. Being one is GSM and the other CDMA, the kernels are different and require different coding.

    I mean, eventually, sure... anything is possible. But immediately, no.
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    Image of lpranal lpranal
    12/01/09

    @nicholas.helling: forgot that there is a GSM version of this phone as well, i thought this was for the sprint ver.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    12/01/09

    In reply to Android 2.1 (With HTC Sense) Leaked for HTC Hero
    wa waaaaa?
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    Nick was starred Nick was unstarred
    Image of Odin Odin
    12/01/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    Fail sample size is fail, you're perfectly justified in throwing that "survey" out the door.
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    Image of Jacubious Jacubious
    12/01/09

    In reply to Android Developer Challenge 2 Winners: Grow, Marketplace, Grow
    And here I was getting all excited the other day that Shazam was finally available for me on my touch diamond. I'm going to go sulk now.
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    Image of Gundem Gundem
    12/01/09

    In reply to Zii Lives: First Look at the 1080p Android-Powered Trinity Phone
    And Nintendo hasn't sued this Zii Lab yet? or viceversa?

    What has capitalism come to?
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    Gundem was starred Gundem was unstarred
    Image of Gundem Gundem
    12/01/09

    In reply to Android Developer Challenge 2 Winners: Grow, Marketplace, Grow
    I still don't know why don't own an Android phone...

    oh wait...

    Damn you crackberry.
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    Image of Yerzriknot Yerzriknot
    12/01/09

    In reply to Zii Lives: First Look at the 1080p Android-Powered Trinity Phone
    How quickly does 1080p video rape a battery?
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/01/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    If you sock Apple right in the face, you may find yourself being sacrificed on the Genius Bar altar. Don't do it.
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    Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of dingus dingus
    12/01/09

    In reply to Zii Lives: First Look at the 1080p Android-Powered Trinity Phone
    Trinity phone... That's, like, the Jesus phone combined with a god phone and a holy ghost phone, right?
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    Image of Gundem Gundem
    12/01/09

    @dingus: I would've de-star'ed you if i could.

    Keep YOUR god out of OUR technology.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/30/09

    In reply to Android Developer Challenge 2 Winners: Grow, Marketplace, Grow
    The problem I found with the ADC was that a lot of the apps that I really ended up liking aren't still in the store.

    For example andrometer sounds interesting, can't find it.

    My favorite was still this social based augmented reality graffiti program where you would "spray" a wall and other users would walk by and see your art. Can't find it either :(
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/30/09 11:39 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/01/09

    @tande04: Man, you're right. I just tried to look up a really interesting one, Tasker...at least according to androlib.com, it's not in the list. Here's hoping they make it in eventually? It would be nice if at least some of the finalists got a fast-track into the Market.
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