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    Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK

    The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?

    Palm Doesn't Want You To Buy Too Many Apps

    Palm App Catalog Just As Crappy for Developers As the App Store

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    Image of Shamoononon:  I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/25/09

    In reply to Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK
    I don't need an app for that.
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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    11/25/09

    In reply to Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK
    You all act so shocked, even though Chen showed on day one that the Pre was built for this.
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    Image of HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
    11/25/09

    In reply to Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK
    Who buys this crap?
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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    11/25/09

    @HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: Memers. My friend was so proud to show me the carefully selected fart app he purchased for his new iPhone last month.
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    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    11/25/09

    In reply to Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK
    Palm's catalog is growing at break-wind speeds!
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    Edited by Gordonium at 11/25/09 11:12 AM Gordonium was starred Gordonium was unstarred
    Image of GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag
    11/25/09

    In reply to Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK
    FartMan? No thanks. I'll just stick with FatMan, who broadcasts in glorious 720p, folks!
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    Image of sharkync sharkync
    11/25/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag:

    I am sooo not watching that.
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    Image of John Herrman John Herrman
    11/25/09

    @sharkync: Wait! It's totally not what you think it is!
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    Image of Odin Odin
    11/25/09

    In reply to Don't Worry Palm, Everything's Going To Be OK
    I don't know what's worse, that they're charging for them or that people have probably bought them.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/25/09

    @Odin: Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who pays him for fart noises?
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    Image of jpaugh jpaugh
    11/25/09

    @OCEntertainment: The people who authorized the app to be sold in the store seems like the foolish ones to me.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/25/09

    @jpaugh: But then the people that authorized it probably get a cut of the earnings of each app sold, so the bigger fool is still the person who buys the app.
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    Image of yantelope yantelope
    11/25/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Agreed. I can explain the supply. It's the demand that baffles me.
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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    11/25/09

    @Odin: Don't think anyone's a fool. At this point it's just a running gag a few people are cashing in on, seems to me.
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    Image of fleebailey33 fleebailey33
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    you are making the iphone usable and available for people who lots of times don't even use a computer, There will always be a market for quality apps.

    Wayyy to many people expect to make some quick money in the app store, I hope those people leave.

    How are the sales on the 100 dollar tom tom and navigon apps? i would like to know that.

    I think the best solution is advertising in free apps, for developers. i think one of the fart apps reported a while ago making 4000 a day in ad revenue. #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of iElvis iElvis
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    Nonsense.

    The App Store is going nowhere. When you have 50 million potential customers and 2 billion downloads in less than two years, you have a huge market.

    Demand + possibility of supply = market

    Things will sort themselves out eventually, and developers will find a way to service the market profitably.
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    Image of fleebailey33 fleebailey33
    10/16/09

    @iElvis: I agree,
    Whenever something gets popular the increase in people bitching goes up too. Like now we are worried if the h1n1 vaccines are safe, etc #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    10/18/09

    @iElvis: True. This is because it's a new market (2 years isn't long for a sales system like this to have existed) that's in a state of tremendous change, not quite stabilized yet. Once it settles down, prices will normalize, advertising will pimp the pricier apps, the free guys will duke it out, and the big boys will hold their own...it'll settle down. Now, what's gonna get interesting is when Android gets to be a big dog in the mobile OS market on the same scale as the iPhone. Then you'll have cross-platform price wars between devs trying to elbow into the other OS's market. #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of jimmyg jimmyg
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    At some point users have to get back into the mindset that if they want quality content, whether it's iPhone apps, eBooks, newspapers, movies, music or websites, they will have to pay an amount that's sufficient to create the product, including paying creators' salaries and owners' profits. Otherwise all we'll have is citizen-journalist inaccurate newsfeeds, garage-band music, YouTube movies and iFart software. Quality costs money. Try finding quality work on sites like Suite101 or Examiner.com that pay a writer $5 or $10 for a feature-length article. #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of €hЯ!§ €hЯ!§
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    I don't mind spending good money on a good app. I just don't like to spend a lot of money on an app when I don't get a chance to try it first. But for $1 or $2, I'll give any app that seems interesting a shot. #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of MWUK MWUK
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    Also pricing needs to lose the catergoric system...
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    I think you're missing a lot of points in this guys.

    A) No packaging
    B) Decently effective anti-theft feature of apps being tied to the phone's account
    C) Most of the dev work has already been done for existing apps, and is a matter of porting the code.
    D) Software producers do not have to pay for bandwidth/infrastructure to distribute app. This comes in the 30% apple take.

    So basically, captive audience, lower infrastructure costs, less piracy, and a lot of old apps making a comeback.

    What's so odd about this? #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of reifer reifer
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    "Myself and others like me will have no choice but to focus our development efforts elsewhere."

    And, where would that be??

    I still believe that the app store has opened up a huge previously untapped market.
    I admit that I'm a "geazer" but for the first time in my life I actually have apps on my phone. I've got nearly 100 apps, use 50+ regularly and over half of them cost something. Good luck getting my business anywhere else. #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of WeaselWeaz000 WeaselWeaz000
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    Interesting, but ignores that Wal-Mart still exists. They follow a similar business plan: get low-priced products that can sell to many people, with quailty as a secondary. The products are not designed to last forever either, you know that a $5 frying pan is going to be lower quality and last shorter than a $30 pan from Macy's and far less than a professional level product.

    The argument about pricing out developers has a simple solution: charge for upgrades and extra features. If you have a $3 app and you add an upgrade with better features it should cost up to $2. Developers of quality products also need to charge more and market their products better. It isn't brain science or rocket surgery.
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    Image of Zoolook Zoolook
    10/16/09

    In reply to The App Store Effect: Are iPhone Apps Headed for Oblivion?
    I think something to remember here is that this is all still very new. The market will sort things out, and eventually there will be established players in the App store, some familiar now, some new, and prices will be at a level that is sustainable.

    What is good about Apple's model, is that the developer (not the publisher) is rewarded for success. This was the idea behind steam, and gamers are fairly loyal and happy to reward quality.

    Back in the old days of computer games, there was a sudden glut of 1.99 games that came out (Code Masters started it in the UK I think) and this didn;t save 8-bit gaming. Ultimately consoles came out, sold games for $70 or $80 (Donkey Kong Country on the SNES...) and even in the high days of the Playstation, games still cost $50.

    I think the iPhone ecosystem will probably be successful, with winners and losers along the way - but I believe people are always happy to pay for quality. #theappstoreeffect
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    10/18/09

    @Zoolook: Or will the glut of crap give us an App Crash that will almost doom the mobile app industry until the NintendoPhone comes out?

    But in all seriousness, I think you'll get a lot of devs who dove in not ready for it getting kicked back out by the market, reputation pushing some expensive apps along, and the cheap guys jockeying to make the top seller lists. I mean, with Android, people know to look for certain apps like Locale, ChompSMS, Shazam, etc. I can't imagine it's any different with the iPhone. #theappstoreeffect
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