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Dennis Raver
05/22/09

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Brian Lam: We need more traffic!

Jesús Diaz: I know! let's start an apple vs. microsoft debate!
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Jesus Diaz
05/22/09

@Dennis Raver: Flame wars don't give us more traffic. It's just a way for all of you morons to vent your usually retarded babblings with no restrain whatsoever.
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balls187
05/22/09

@Dayburner: Yeah Linux! Its 2009 and Power Management still doesn't work right, and fucking forget about using any new hardware!

Install Kernel Source bitch, cuz im gonna write my own graphics module!
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tex1ntux
05/22/09

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Fuck thou, good Sir.

This bullshit is poppycock.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/22/09

@EDWard VON HandleBrock, III Jr: I must say, the lol per word ratio is pretty high in this comment. +1
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balls187
05/22/09

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Oh yeah?

[www.google.com]

Q.E.D. Bitches!
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Aindreas O Gallchoir
05/22/09

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yes, but most things microsoft has produced lately, bar the xbox, are shite:

that ribbon on the new office? jesus. they're still using floppy icon for save too.

the zune. come on, its a bit shite. its definitely no competition to the ipod range.

Windows mobile - utter, utter, lazy, pedantic, sclerotic ugly, slow shite.

Windows vista - a bit shite, and very poorly received.

windows 7 - is the mojave experimant. have they changed the font manager since win 95? jesus. also it is plainly, and without equivocation, sporting the 10.4 dock. they have literally thrown their hands up and re-attached themselves to the 'apple actually knows whats going on' teat.

have you noticed even intel knocked out a linux os for netbooks? microsoft is screwed good people, and not before time.

mmmm. flame.
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balls187
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: It could be worse. They could be named "Aindreas."
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Aindreas O Gallchoir
05/22/09

@balls187: yes, balls numerical. you are a wit for the ages. you tool.
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balls187
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: Whatever you say "Aindreas."
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Aindreas O Gallchoir
05/22/09

@balls187: yes, you adolescent cocker spaniel, its my name. i nearly went for a pseudonym based on testicles and a number string, but, somehow, something held me back at the last moment.
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balls187
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: Ironically, Aindreas is far gayer sounding than Balls.
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Dillinger23
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: "Except for the xbox" Oh you mean the piece os shit with a gigantically high failure rate, that wonderful thing?
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balls187
05/22/09

@dillinger23: That's owning the bigger piece of shit with a hefty price tag?
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Aindreas O Gallchoir
05/22/09

@balls187: no no, wrong little terrier, its not ironic, nothing ironic there at all. just a statement of opinion on your part. and well, you know what they say; those who interject homosexuality into the conversation at the earliest possible moment.. well.. have you had any experiences in your teenage years? its ok you know. you gay, gay little terrier.

i'd be more comfortable flaming on the aapl msft thing, but if its fate to flambay anonymous adolescents...
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Dallifornia
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: I'm sure you nearly picked a pseudonym... except... you know... you're a dreaded FACEBOOKER! Also, is "a bit shite" worse than just "shite"? Is it even an insult, really? Not as insulting as calling someone a DOG BREED! Holy God!
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balls187
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: Whatever you say, "Aindreas."
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balls187
05/22/09

@Dallifornia: Not to mention referring to a 360 as a "she."

God damn pretentious eurotrash. GTFO!
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Aindreas O Gallchoir
05/22/09

@balls187: down little gay terrier, down..
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Dillinger23
05/22/09

@balls187: It depends on your definition of "owning" IF by owning you mean temporarily renting from MS until you have to send it back on the RROD/E74 trade in program then yes, its owning it. Have fun playing halo for the next 5 mins.
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balls187
05/22/09

@dillinger23: After that 5 minutes, I can then wait 67 minutes for MGS4 to install on my ps3!
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balls187
05/22/09

@Aindreas O Gallchoir: Don't you have a soccer match to watch?
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balls187
05/22/09

@dillinger23: By "owning" I mean, outselling, and producing games that are similar to the ones for a "technically" superior hardware platform.

I have the PS3.

It's great.

For watching movies.
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Jeb_Hoge
05/22/09

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I haven't seen an Apple product work right in years.
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Dillinger23
05/22/09

@Jeb_Hoge: Then you're an idiot obviously
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Kaiser-Machead
05/22/09

@dillinger23: @MINI Driver:

I think you guys aren't getting into the spirit of things.
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Fourthletter
05/22/09

In reply to A Classic Revisited: Apple vs Microsoft, FIGHT!
Engadget already did an article on this when both companies posted their earnings earlier in the year.

Truth is M$ makes more money for less capital investment. Also M$ stock is at an all time low thanks to Vista, I'm sure 7s release will bump it up a bit, Apple's is pretty high thanks to their lack of massive loss this year (so far) but Apple's stock bounces up and down ALOT so any further complications to Steve's health could screw any investment you have planned.

Apple certainly isn't David to anyone, is this only just news to the Giz team thanks to WolframAlpha, can none of you read their quarterly earnings report ?
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Jesus Diaz
05/22/09

@Fourthletter: Who the fuck cares about Engadget. This is a flamewar post, you bozo. Get on with the program.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/22/09

@Jesus Diaz: Oh yeah? Well your mama dresses you funny!
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OMG! Ponies!
05/22/09

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Yes, AAPL has a higher share value that MSFT.

But Mister Softee has 10x more shares outstanding. And greater market cap.

Of course, it's all irrelevant because it's the most ridiculous flamewar topic. AAPL is a hardware company, MSFT is a software company. And the Intel switch just made it all the more irrelevant because every Mac is a potential sale of Windows.

It's like asking if BMW is better than Freightliner. They aren't really in competition.
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Jesus Diaz
05/22/09

@OMG! Ponies!: They are in the competition. Microsoft obsesses over EVERYTHING that Apple does. You clearly haven't talked to any of their execs, from top to bottom. And is this nothing about the hardware, Ponies you idiot, it's ALL about the software. It's the software that makes Apple products better and more enjoyable, it's the software that sells Apple products. Apple software wins, and that makes their hardware (which is just normal hardware in a pretty box) better. Not the design, THE SOFTWARE.

Microsoft knows that and they are very worried because they now that Microsoft software is shit.

(This is what a flamewar comment has too look like)
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pantsonfireliarliar
05/22/09

@Jesus Diaz: I wholeheartedly agree from a consumer perspective, but we all know they're idiots. And from a financials view, you're a fool. You've gamely posted the fundamentals, but look at their actual income, IE what really matters:

Gross profit:

Apple: $11.84 billion

Microsoft: $48.74 billion

R&D:

Apple: $1.2 billion

Microsoft: $9.2 billion

Cost of Goods Sold:

Apple: $21.85 billion

Microsoft: $12.44 billion

So while Apple does make half the revenue of Microsoft, they've got a much higher COGS. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE A HARDWARE COMPANY! (And I threw in the R&D numbers because, wow, who knew?) The bottom line (literally) is that Microsoft squeezes 3x more profit than Apple from only 2x the revenue: $15 billion vs. $5 billion.
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Dillinger23
05/22/09

@pantsonfireliarliar: MY question is, what is MS doing with all that money invested in R&D? Surface? I certainly hope not.
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balls187
05/22/09

@dillinger23: Ever been to [research.microsoft.com] ?
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planetarian
05/22/09

@OMG! Ponies!: This comment thread amuses me.

Since nobody's said it yet: The open-source community owns all your proprietary pansy-asses! THIS is the year of the Linux desktop! FOSS FTW!
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OMG! Ponies!
05/22/09

@planetarian: There's a reason no one says it. There's no such thing as a Linux Fanboy.

Scratch that.

There's no such thing as a respectable Linux Fanboy.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/22/09

@planetarian: Ubuntu Jaundiced Jackalope won't beat Windows 7 or OS X, neither will Masturbatory Marmoset, Boring Baboon or Cancer-ridden Caymen.
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Novenus
05/22/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Except in price and ultimately, flexibility. Linux has come a long way and you can't beat the performance gain on the same hardware platform if compared to either Windows or OSX. Ubuntu is one distro. Come talk about Linux when you've rolled out at least Slackware or compiled a custom kernel.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/22/09

@Novenus: While I agree with you to an extent, the fact that it remains obscure and a bit more esoteric overall than the more mainstream operating systems is the reason why these free (or less products are well in the minority. It's not just about performance gains and flexibility. If the operating system can't convince people that it's more usable out-of-the-box, it can't win.
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Ryanraven
05/22/09

@OMG! Ponies!:

iWork 09' -> M$ Office

Safari -> IE

iMovie -> Windows Movie Maker (lawl)

iTunes + Quicktime -> Windows Media Player

Mail -> Windows Mail

iDVD -> Windows DVD Maker

The list goes on.... DIRECT COMPETITION

See Ponies this is why you are a Pony and I am a Stallion!!! (Full size)

'nuff said
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Totalfixation
05/22/09

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Apple might have a higher stock price, but how many shares are there compared to Microsoft?
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OMG! Ponies!
05/22/09

@Totalfixation: Wow. There's a freaking chart that answers this. And you didn't read it.

We have a winner.
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Seiven
05/01/09

In reply to Did You Switch From Windows to a Mac or Back? Any Regrets?
used to be windows only, then shortly after OSX released I went Mac only for about a year, since then I have been a happy mix of both...all my main machines are macs, but a PC is never that far away (and I have never bought a manufactured PC for myself - only built)
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TheHeartless
05/01/09

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I switched in 2004 with a 15" Powerbook G4. I have never looked back. Although Windows 7 is the first Windows system in years to please me, I just find that the Mac does everything I want in a more streamlined way, and the infrequency of crashing and lack of viruses and such is also a big high point. I've turned several friends to Macs but now, being out of high school and at a more sensible age I just let people use whatever they want to use and don't hassle anyone about "hurrr my Mac is bettar den j00r stoopid winfail lololol!"
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fuchikoma
04/30/09

In reply to Did You Switch From Windows to a Mac or Back? Any Regrets?
I grew up using DOS, Win 3.1, then 95, and 98. Back in the days of OS 7, I used Macs at school and found them wonky and inadequate.

Now, I use XP at home, though I used to use 2003 Server when XP was more plagued with exploits. I have a laptop from work that uses OS X 10.5 so that I can keep up to date and support the few Mac users we have here...

Macs are nice now. The OS is a bit more "comfortable" to use than Windows, but I wouldn't say it's better or worse really. Actually, these days from the end user's perspective they're very very similar in basic functionality.

So I haven't switched, but I'd happily use either or both. Macs are still stupidly expensive, but if I didn't have one to borrow from work, I'd at least consider purchasing one. It would be more for my own appreciation though, as there's no added functionality that I'd gain over a PC for my uses.
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something_unique_and_descriptive
04/30/09

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Grew up with Commodore 64s and DOS/Windows PCs in the house. Gave OSX a try a couple years ago, didn't care for it, didn't see the appeal... probably give it another go this summer via hackintosh... popular enough I feel the need to learn to support it.

I've also got a box I've been playing with various Linux distros on. I still think it's got a ways to go before it's ready for the average idiot user.
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Kaiser-Machead
04/30/09

In reply to Did You Switch From Windows to a Mac or Back? Any Regrets?
I try doing the multiple OS thing, but I've come to realize that I like to just pile everything into one system. Variety may be the spice of life, but I don't think it necessarily applies to operating systems. I use OS X exclusively at home, but do use XP at work. For professional purposes, I keep myself familiar with Windows so that I can maintain a proper work flow no matter what I'm using, but for my own personal systems, it's nothing but Macs. If the time comes when I need the other platform on-the-go, Bootcamp saves me from having to buy some cheapo laptop alongside a Macbook.
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OGHowie
04/30/09

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Use Windows. Wanted to switch, but then my work apps aren't compatible with Macs.
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pdditty
04/30/09

@OGHowie: vmware fusion
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ripfire
04/30/09

@pdditty: So you would have a Mac acting as the "middleman"? Doesn't sound efficient.
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Rabid Penguin
04/30/09

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I've always used Windows. I've tried Linux a couple times, but I prefer Windows.
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