I saw one at the Best Buy in the John Hancock Center. It was like butter, I couldn't believe it. The screen was nice and bright, the transitions were smooth, rotating from landscape to portrait was instant. They had it hooked up to a TV displaying video and it looked excellent. The girl showcasing it didn't let me hold it, but they had some fake plastic ones that they said weighed the same and they were incredibly light. The HD radio was cool though they let me plug my Shure se210 headphones in. The sound was crystal clear. I'm going to get one on the 15th. I'll probably have to order it from the website though, because I want a black 32 GB.
This was the first thing the guy did where I was in NYC. I didn't even ask, he just said "They have apps in the marketplace, and they will be open to developers..."
Hey! Cool! This is my picture! I sent this in from my fiancee's email address(thus the "Jarnet"). At any rate, ya they actually wouldn't let me use the wifi(they originally said there wasn't any wifi available but then when I set up my phone to tether it, they said they couldn't let me). They also showed a movie off the zune that showed Burnout for Zune.
@gotFrosty: YEAH! Too bad it's not a rocket car too! I mean, why should I have to carry a phone, and MP3 player AND have a vehicle? I want full device integration!
You know, Gizmodo is nothing but a bunch of Zune fanbois. You never see them giving this kind of atention to the iPhone.
I wish there was some way to filter out all the stupid Zune stories. Its like you guys are always jerking off Zune Guy. I mean really - can his cock be any deeper down your throat.
@S-Express: @sdowney83: With all due respect to ponies! and his star, that was kinda of an obvious, lame, non-star joke. Thanks to you two lemmings, it would seem there are more ponies! fanboys on here than zune fanboys.
@OMG! Ponies!: I know right!!! I mean come on!!! Like, all day, it's "Microsoft" "Bill", "Zune" "Enterprise Database Server" "Exchange" I mean, like come on!!!
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@BeerManMike: I agree with S-Express, it was actually good. And there's nothing wrong with being a Ponies! fanboi. Join the club! Free admission until you actually want to get in! Then it will cost you!
@BeerManMike: I found his joke witty, thank you, and I am a Zune "fanboy". I have a 30GB Zune and an 8GB zune and I will have a new 32GB HD on Sept. 15th. I think his comment was directed at the people who were always bitching about all the Apple posts in the past.
And the lemmings comment is simply unneeded and asshattastic.
@BeerManMike: I found his joke pathetic and annoying. But that's because I'm a Mac Fanboi and consequently humourless and blind to anything that wasn't shat from Steve Jobs behind.
@citizensmith: See kids - this is what is known in the business as "misdirection". He starts off going in one direction and then, suddenly, takes the joke in the opposite direction.
A marketplace with Apps is nice, but what about the "developers! developers! developers!"? I haven't seen any mention of a Zune SDK or any entrance fee to be able to play on this hardware. How is this going to compare to iTunes? The reason "there's an app for that" is because there are so many people pounding out crapware for the iPhone/Touch. Who can make a Zune app? How much of the sale to they get to keep? Seems pretty late in the game to announce this kind of stuff.
@KenK: Its already been mentioned that The XNA Creator's Studio that microsoft released will also work with zune, so the tools technically have already been out for over a while already.
I wonder what the app store restrictions will be. Will it be where once you purchase the app, it is yours no matter how many devices you own? Or will it be linked to a device? or a limit of installs?
Hopefully it will be like the Apple app store, but im still getting a 3g touch in September and not a zune.
@Segador: The problem is still DRM - anything you access with Zune Pass is DRM protected, you can't burn CDs from it for example. And of course if you stop paying the monthly $$$, they all go away.
Only tracks that you buy are DRM free - and if you don't use your Zune Pass credits in that month, they won't roll-over, you loose them.
Add to that the limited selection on the Zune Pass - MS freely admit that they won't make all material available for Zune Pass, and it's not a great deal - and certainly a poor cousin for the iTunes store.
@S-Express: Don't forget to mention that the 10 songs you get to keep with the zune pass can be burned to cd.
If you follow the logic you'll understand that of course you can't burn the regular zune pass stuff since you are renting the tracks technically. It doesn't make sense to be able to burn them.
On the flip side I can't imagine burning music to CD anymore. My Zune 80 has replaced cd's for me completely even when driving since I have aux in jacks. If you don't have those there are other alternatives.
As for selection, I have found that everything I want to hear is available. so while it may not as comprehensive as itunes for now, it's real word selection is great.
@GiorgioPimp: It's not particularly ironic, given that you can get Windows Mobile apps anywhere, not just from the Windows Mobile Marketplace. This is a trick the iPhone can't do, unless it's jailbroken. And somehow I don't see TomTom catering to jailbroken iPhones.
The Windows Mobile version of TomTom has been available on their site for at least months, if not years, and will continue to be, whether or not MS includes it in their "official" marketplace. An official Windows Mobile marketplace is like an official Coca Cola marketplace - I suspect most people will continue getting these products from the same places they always have, regardless of how "official" they are.
Not really. All the components are dirt cheap compared with the software / data itself.
i havent seen an isupply breakdown of a tom tom GPS Device but if you take that a TOM TOM XL for 119 USD at Best buy 84 USD for the software alone isnt such a bad deal.
@Redwraithvienna:
Then I would hope that when Tom Tom releases their iPod/iPhone GPS dock that it only costs a few more dollars than the software that comes with it.
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and yeah, no wifi
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But seriously, it was inevitable that it would go here, from having games and all.
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I wish there was some way to filter out all the stupid Zune stories. Its like you guys are always jerking off Zune Guy. I mean really - can his cock be any deeper down your throat.
We get it with the Zune! ENOUGH ALLREADY!
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Whoo Hoo! Looks like I'm back! Thanks Giz for fixing my comment account!
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FANBOIS!!! Redmond-haterz!!!
Like, OMG!
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And the lemmings comment is simply unneeded and asshattastic.
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Nice.
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The developers rejected the offer, but I think it's likely that those who agreed are under NDA.
*the article I linked to is only about one developer, but he reported a second case later
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Hopefully it will be like the Apple app store, but im still getting a 3g touch in September and not a zune.
08/23/09
Once I see the kind of store Microsoft has in place (and as long as the 64gb isn't too much higher) I'll definitely be getting one.
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Only tracks that you buy are DRM free - and if you don't use your Zune Pass credits in that month, they won't roll-over, you loose them.
Add to that the limited selection on the Zune Pass - MS freely admit that they won't make all material available for Zune Pass, and it's not a great deal - and certainly a poor cousin for the iTunes store.
08/23/09
If you follow the logic you'll understand that of course you can't burn the regular zune pass stuff since you are renting the tracks technically. It doesn't make sense to be able to burn them.
On the flip side I can't imagine burning music to CD anymore. My Zune 80 has replaced cd's for me completely even when driving since I have aux in jacks. If you don't have those there are other alternatives.
As for selection, I have found that everything I want to hear is available. so while it may not as comprehensive as itunes for now, it's real word selection is great.
08/24/09
I tend to have to buy those. Other than that there are only a handful of artists I've had to purchase outside of Zune Pass.
It's very comprehensive. I would say it has about 90% of the music I want to listen to.
And like Ryan said you can burn to CD the 10 zune pass credit songs since you own them.
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of course this came out in New Zealand first, there's only one simple map...
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[www.mobiletechworld.com]
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The Windows Mobile version of TomTom has been available on their site for at least months, if not years, and will continue to be, whether or not MS includes it in their "official" marketplace. An official Windows Mobile marketplace is like an official Coca Cola marketplace - I suspect most people will continue getting these products from the same places they always have, regardless of how "official" they are.
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Not really. All the components are dirt cheap compared with the software / data itself.
i havent seen an isupply breakdown of a tom tom GPS Device but if you take that a TOM TOM XL for 119 USD at Best buy 84 USD for the software alone isnt such a bad deal.
08/24/09
Then I would hope that when Tom Tom releases their iPod/iPhone GPS dock that it only costs a few more dollars than the software that comes with it.