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OMG! weatherman
11/06/09

In reply to Palm Gives Pre Developers a Stupid-Simple Tool to Make Stupid-Simple Apps
Palm may well be dead by the end of the year, or at least well on its way. It's a shame really -- I don't feel bad for Palm as a company or Palm's management, but I do feel bad for all the folks who put so much work in to something that turned out so well but just came at precisely the wrong time with horrible leadership. #aressdk
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Pookiewood
11/06/09

@weatherman: LOL Doubt that seriously. They are about to release the Pre in Europe if they haven't already. #aressdk
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alfredoraraujo
11/06/09

@weatherman: I can not agree more with you. Just when it all started to clear up for Palm, Droid comes in.
However, just for the sake of discussion, what do you reckon might happen if Palm builds their WebOS on top of Android? Could it be possible?
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OMG! weatherman
11/06/09

@Pookiewood: things are going to be even rougher for Palm in Europe, I think. They're up against Symbian and Nokia there in a way that they aren't in the US. #aressdk
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OCEntertainment
11/06/09

In reply to Palm Gives Pre Developers a Stupid-Simple Tool to Make Stupid-Simple Apps
"Come develop for Palm! Where it's dead simple to make an app that a very small percentage of the population will ever use! Remember, fewer users means less bug reports for you to deal with!" #aressdk
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AmishJohn
11/06/09

@OCEntertainment: They're just reducing the time it'll take to surpass the App Store's total of flashlight apps and tip calculators. #aressdk
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chefgon
11/06/09

In reply to Palm Gives Pre Developers a Stupid-Simple Tool to Make Stupid-Simple Apps
Palm is a bunch of idiots with this Web Developer strategy. Web Developers develop for the web. They should be catering to device developers, who develop for devices. I just don't understand where they expect this strategy to go.

It's like building a racecar that can only be driven by old ladies with vision problems. It might be impressive in a way, but it's not the correct strategy to win races because none of the experienced drivers can operate it.

Not that web developers are old ladies or anything, but they're just not the people who are going to make the next great handheld app. Their skills are tuned for a different kind of experience completely.
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elementary
11/06/09

@chefgon: I think the "Web" part is throwing you off a bit. It's not so much a half-hearted attempt to get people to develop for the Pre that otherwise wouldn't or couldn't, it's really the next logical step forward in programming. There are two ways to go about it. The traditional way is to have unique set of programming tools and guidelines for a narrow range of hardware. Apple is the prime example. Now Google is going at it from the other angle (I realize Google has nothing to do with the Pre, but they are the biggest ones pushing this model). The idea is, a framework is developed, and the programing is done for the framework, not the hardware. The framework itself has to be uniquely worked onto multiple hardware platforms, but any further software development can be done from within the framework. Anyone familiar with it can develop for any device that uses it. Obviously, given the myriad of hardware platforms, this is particularly appealing to cell phone programming, but in the new world of information, quality comes from quantity, and using a framework that allows a programer to develop for many more devices than he'd otherwise be able to will result in ideas and innovations that otherwise would not have happened. Just not on the Pre. Your TV will have apps. Your car will have apps. Your refrigerator will have apps. No one is going to learn a unique programming toolset to program for my refrigerator, and they won't have to. But my refrigerator will do amazing things. Don't stand in the way of progress, this is the way of future! #aressdk
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OCEntertainment
11/06/09

@elementary: Quoting directly from the Java Evangelism Guidebook, circa 1992. #aressdk
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skierpage
11/09/09

@chefgon: "Web technologies" is just another framework to write applications for a device, just like Android's Java classes or Apple's Cocoa. Just like any other framework Palm has to be smart about exposing device features.

Some application developers will love working in JavaScript, HTML, and CSS. Some web *SITE* developers will move their programming skills to writing applications. Web technologies are the most popular in the world, both in terms of users and developers, so both groups are potentially huge.

Palm's strategy is fine, and makes the most sense for a small competitor. #aressdk
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