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Let's keep in mind that the protesters were anarchists. They were encouraged to smash stuff by a "point system" where points are awarded based on what you destroy. No, no one was actually keeping score. Anarchists aren't really into organizing.
So, obviously, that was a cheap imitation of Cap's shield because we all know that the real one has vibranium in it and would protect him from the sound waves.
Oh there is nothing wrong with this at all. I mean showering people with microwaves, putting people in an abandoned building and locking them in or shooting folks with soundwaves all with no due process coupled with the fact that only a very few people became "rowdy" or "disturbed the peace" and therefore were not exercising their right to assemble peacefully....
Well that's the way of things now, because we allowed it to get to this point.
Isn't it funny how everyone can demonize Iran for how they treat their protesters and yet tons of videos on youtube of cops attacking peaceful protesters. Also gotta love how the military denied up and down it would be used against us. And finally are we gonna fall for the same WMD line. OH Iran is building WMD's then its gonna be oh we made a mistake oh well. All they did is change the q in Iraq to a N
@Mr.Nibbs: What does Iran have to do with this? To my knowledge, only people who were breaking the law were attacked. Also, the military didn't break any promises. The police used this, not the military.
I don't understand some of the comments complaining about how it was unnecessary or how the government was squashing their (protesters') rights. We have the right to peaceably assemble. We do not have the right to go around smashing business and cars, especially without a permit.
The police were doing their job protecting the law abiding citizens and their property. I applaud them for it. Now some may say a device like this is unnecessary and can cause permanent damage. There are only so many police. Tear gas and flashbangs and fire hoses have a much higher potential to cause injury or even death than an enormous speaker emitting pitched tones.
In short, I think we should be proud of the police and other agencies for protecting law abiding citizens while not causing any serious injuries.
Something about this just doesn't feel right. I mean, I honestly don't know or care about the protesters' rights to protest, and I'm sure there's plenty of blame to go around...
But this is something out of sci-fi. I mean, literally. Didn't they use a couple of these against the bloody friggin' Hulk? Maybe that's why I see it this way, but dang, this just seems... I dunno, overkill, maybe?
American taxpayers fund military research (cool!), and then American protesters get sound cannons turned on them? That's some next-level tech right there.
Dude, I dunno. This is fantasy hitting reality a little too hard for me.
@TheSonOfKrypton: ARE PEOPLE NOW TO BE TREATED AS HULKS?! MY PERCEPTION OF THE WORLD GARNERED FROM TELEVISION AND MOVIES IS ONE TO BE CONSIDERED LEGITIMATELY!!!
@OCEntertainment: Agreed, this is jacked up on many levels. All I have to say is this would never happen in Texas. If the government opens fire with anything down here, we fire back.
@vista64guy: It's straight up bullshit. I was there just observing and noone was threatening or violent. It was a protest against police brutality by college students. Most of them were wondering what was going on and just were there to look. Some parents were there with their little kids just observing, and these pittsburgh cops, all excited that they have sticks and weapons, start jabbing and shooting tear gas into a crowd of college students/general observers...
@hhkim515: Maybe you weren't violent, but plenty of people WERE.
Sorry, but there is no magic weapon that can target only those violent people from a crowd of peaceful protestors. You guys should have been better organized and better behaved.
Just admit it, your leaders made a mistake and you were disorganized. The police were well within their rights to PROTECT THE CITIZENS.
@Deaf Mute: Exactly. I was in Seattle during the G-8 fiasco. Even if some of the protesters are peaceful, they still gather in the middle of the street and loiter around.
Almost none of the protesters who come to these things thinks about the regular folks who live, work and commute in these cities.
@OCEntertainment: Just out of curiosity, what do you think the police should do when faced with a large crowd of people, many with masks to hide their identity and some smashing windows and throwing rocks and bottle at the police.
What would you say if this crowd was in front of your home or business smashing your windows.
How about if the place where you or your parents work goes out of business because of the damage caused by the crowd.
The reality is that the only protest that will make any difference is to vote for people who believe what you do. If enough other people feel the same way the problem will be solved. If not, then you should realize that you are in the minority and will have to deal with it or go someplace where a majority thinks the way you do.
@kfonda: Wow, dude. I compared an unruly protest to a movie about a guy who grows 8 feet, turns green and throws tanks, and you think my comment is worthy of your attention and debate? I'm honored. You're also wasting your time.
As I said, I don't bloody care about whether or not it's right or wrong. I don't know what to do with rioting protesters, nor do I have an answer as to how much force the cops should be able to use. I also don't have much of a clue (as I'd wager is true of half the people currently arguing the issue) of what, exactly went down in this particular situation.
It's just weird, you know? That's a fricken sound cannon! I mean, since I was a kid playing Dune 2 as House Atreides, whipping out my sonic tanks, sound cannons have been stuff off sci-fi and far off stories. Right or wrong, this is gonna take some getting used to. This is now a world with sound cannon tanks. And lethal or not, overkill or not, you drive a sound cannon tank up to any kind of crowd, they're gonna piss their pants.
@Deaf Mute: Dont blame me for their idiocy. I agree they should be better organized. But what do you expect? Its pittsburgh with a fail mayor.
I'm just saying, on Friday night of the g20, riot police where at UPitt/CMU for no reason when the protests were downtown (20 minutes away), students got curious and came out of the dorm rooms, and when enough of those unarmed college kids came out of their dorms, the retard cops starting shooting tear gas.
just wait until the doctor diagnosis comes along for plenty of these people. >85 decibels = pretty much guaranteed hearing loss from this LRAD as it goes way above that. (120-151) decibels
My friend Ryan was involved in the protest. He goes to the University of Pittsburgh. Someone took an awesome picture of him. Hes standing dead center, main focus of the picture with the backpack.
@Chris Raimondi: Doesn't look like a fair fight to me. Those cops didn't stand a chance without their sonic boom box cannon. I mean just look at your friend. He's got sneakers and a backpack.
I think this is definitely a step up from tear gas and rubber bullets. Can't wait to see the "pain ray" get used in a situation like this. That should be interesting.
G20 was interesting. Two of my best friends were there. One is a National Guardsmen and the other was a protester there. Both told me about this and it was funny how the NG was excited to use this tech to take care of some unruly crowds people, while the protester thought this was a violation of their rights haha. Its nice having two sides to a story.
This is ridiculous. I think some militia members need to arm citizens with these very same non-lethal technologies and let them use them on the government and or police. The first amendment never mentions needing a permit.
@EnricoAegialeus: Uh, I don't think that idealogical militia members should be able to attack police officers with nonlethal weapons unless the police get to shoot guns back. Also, I think you mean second amendment?
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Well that's the way of things now, because we allowed it to get to this point.
Yay us.
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Better than the heat/mircowave weapon.
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The police were doing their job protecting the law abiding citizens and their property. I applaud them for it. Now some may say a device like this is unnecessary and can cause permanent damage. There are only so many police. Tear gas and flashbangs and fire hoses have a much higher potential to cause injury or even death than an enormous speaker emitting pitched tones.
In short, I think we should be proud of the police and other agencies for protecting law abiding citizens while not causing any serious injuries.
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But this is something out of sci-fi. I mean, literally. Didn't they use a couple of these against the bloody friggin' Hulk? Maybe that's why I see it this way, but dang, this just seems... I dunno, overkill, maybe?
American taxpayers fund military research (cool!), and then American protesters get sound cannons turned on them? That's some next-level tech right there.
Dude, I dunno. This is fantasy hitting reality a little too hard for me.
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Are you kidding me??
You guys missed a lot that the news didn't show.
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Sorry, but there is no magic weapon that can target only those violent people from a crowd of peaceful protestors. You guys should have been better organized and better behaved.
Just admit it, your leaders made a mistake and you were disorganized. The police were well within their rights to PROTECT THE CITIZENS.
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Almost none of the protesters who come to these things thinks about the regular folks who live, work and commute in these cities.
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What would you say if this crowd was in front of your home or business smashing your windows.
How about if the place where you or your parents work goes out of business because of the damage caused by the crowd.
The reality is that the only protest that will make any difference is to vote for people who believe what you do. If enough other people feel the same way the problem will be solved. If not, then you should realize that you are in the minority and will have to deal with it or go someplace where a majority thinks the way you do.
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As I said, I don't bloody care about whether or not it's right or wrong. I don't know what to do with rioting protesters, nor do I have an answer as to how much force the cops should be able to use. I also don't have much of a clue (as I'd wager is true of half the people currently arguing the issue) of what, exactly went down in this particular situation.
It's just weird, you know? That's a fricken sound cannon! I mean, since I was a kid playing Dune 2 as House Atreides, whipping out my sonic tanks, sound cannons have been stuff off sci-fi and far off stories. Right or wrong, this is gonna take some getting used to. This is now a world with sound cannon tanks. And lethal or not, overkill or not, you drive a sound cannon tank up to any kind of crowd, they're gonna piss their pants.
Because, as I said, that is some next-level tech.
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I'm just saying, on Friday night of the g20, riot police where at UPitt/CMU for no reason when the protests were downtown (20 minutes away), students got curious and came out of the dorm rooms, and when enough of those unarmed college kids came out of their dorms, the retard cops starting shooting tear gas.
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Noise canceling anyone?
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