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been really pining for a new bb. has anyone gotten the 9700? i HATE the track ball, because after 2 years my curve's trackball has finally lost it.
i know giz loves the iphone and likes the droid.. but i get a great discount with att and im not a fan of non tactile typing (i have an ipod touch that i love.. but i love the keyboard on my bb.. its the only reason i still like the phone).
@shouryuuken: Have you tried the 8900 or the Tour before? It's pretty much the same phone, with the exception of the trackball. If you like those 2 phones, but hate the trackball, then get the 9700. I got my 9700 the first week it came out on at&t, and i'm loving it so far.
@josh_yth: no i never did, but ill take your recommendation into consideration. i forgot what they were called, but not too long after i got my curve, they had some new bbs at att that were wider. i hated how they looked because i thought the size of the curve was just right.
if im not mistaken, this phone is similar to the ones i was talking about but shrunken back down to the size of the curve right?
@#c17303112: i think this is the phone you are talking about, am i right? the 9700 look really similar to this phone, but in a smaller size. Also, the keyboard isn't exactly the same as the one on 8900.
@shouryuuken: i will buy one too, but the iphone need to support push mail for hotmail first before i will buy an iphone again. I am not paying $10 for an app just to check my email, when you can do that for free on bb.
@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: I think you have it backwards. If AT&T joined Verizon, then AT&T would single-handedly make Sprint the defacto best with: network, customer service, and price.
@bustedchain: Well they're not joining each other. This is more like a Marvel Comics style Team-Up. First you have the obligatory fight, then the two heroes team up to fight a common foe before eventually parting company & going their separate ways..
@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: LOL! Yeah, I see the reference, but I still think it would be an epic fail. I think AT&T would drag Verizon down into the mud and Sprint would leap ahead. I'm not a huge fan of Sprint, but I loath AT&T. Out here, AT&T's voice coverage looks like their 3g map: Sparse. Sprint's coverage is pretty good, their 3G coverage has gotten better in a lot of places (not hear unfortunately for me) and they only cost a finger or two unlike Verizon's "Arm and a Leg" plan.
The map wasn't even really what bothered me about these commercials at all (even though it's actually a bit outdated, obviously in verizon's favor). No matter what they were saying, the message I got was "Don't be the douche on the left... be the slightly less douchey guy on the right!"
Verizon: "Look. Not here. " AT&T: "Chickening out, eh?" Verizon: "Of course not....but come on. We are both public figures. Neither of us needs this bloodbath to be public. Oh, and there will be a bloodbath, friend. Make no mistake about that. But you and I? We'll do this as men. Barefisted in the back alleys. No cameras, no lawyers." AT&T: "I accept."
*mutually-menacing handshake*
I really wonder what the next feature that we will be begging for once apple implements this. I mean, we begged for 3g, then for recording video, now for Video conferencing. What is the next I wonder...
@zaneboy40: I'm rather impressed with HTC's offerings these days, although I'm still waiting for my Crackberry to die until I upgrade... RIM always seems to let me down.
I like the signature on the image! Classsssy. Almost as classy as the word "assclowns." I prefer "fucknuts" myself. Or..."harlequin buttocks."
The camera on the backside wouldn't be a problem if you just hold it up and talk in front of the mirror. Or if you video yourself from the neck down...
Not surprising, but I am surprised Verizon is number 1 when I have had recurring paperweight status inducing errors to my phone (On 4th one) for the last 3 months, and when I went to verizon they told me NOT A SINGLE SOUL has suffered this error before (Though I brought printouts from their site of people reporting it, they refused to see them) and blamed me repeatedly for the error, refused to comp my bill any for the downtime their incompatibility with the phone THEY SELL caused.
"We can replace your phone, but we'd need you to sign up for another two years and to move your upgrade date."
"But, you broke my phone, that isn't fair. This is a amss defect and another one will do it as well."
"We can replace your phone, but we'd need you to sign up for another two years and to move your upgrade date."
"... I'm going with AT&T, they'll give me a refurbed iphone for 50$ and charge me less a month anyway."
@Demonbird: the same exact thing happened with my first gen chocolate years ago. The touch buttons stopped working on 3 different phones in 3 months and each time they would bitch and moan about replacing it. The last time they didn't have any in stock and they refused to even give me a discount on a single phone, even with signing a new contract. Since I was going on vacation the next day I was forced to pay full price to replace the piece of junk LG.
I vowed to never buy another LG and to leave Verizon as soon as my contract was up, which I did when it ended around the time the iPhone 3g came out.
Everyone is always hoping the iPhone comes to Verizon but I am praying any carrier but them gets it. The 2 years I was with them their customer service was so bad I could really care less how great their service was. No customer should be treated with such blatant disrespect.
@crsrc:
Same deal with me, but they wanted to extend my contract just to replace with the same phon, said if Iw anted a different one I myself would choose I would have to pay full retail, though the Nokia Intrigue I have, that they sell, has incompatibilities with their network that renders it unusable.
@Demonbird: I haven't run into any problems with ATT (other than shitty coverage, but I rarely can't make a call and I have decent 3G at least half the time in the Bay Area).
With the iPhone, you just deal directly with Apple for hardware problems so that side I can't really say. Apple is pretty good with replacing a broken iPhone though. I've known several people that have shattered their screens and many have gotten it replaced for free and at the very least they'll give you another for the subsidized price (although it seems that if you politely complain enough they'll always give it to you for free)
@muchdrama:
Gee, too bad they won't do that with me. It's either a new phone with a new contract, full retail, or I take the same phone and wait for it to die, all while they tell me to kindly go screw myself and that this is all my fault.
I have to say some of the problems with the iphone, seem to be the PHONE.
I have a jailbroken 2g running on tmobile, I used to have a blackberry pearl. From the day I got the iphone it started dropping calls, crap call quality etc. Problems I never had with the blackberry.
Fortunately I use my phone more for text, internet and email because it pretty much sucks as a phone and unfortunately that isn't ALL att's fault.
@veronykah: Hm, all of your points on the iPhone being jailbroken on tmobile SOUND like valid reasons as to why the quality of my call experience suddenly plummeted.
However, my roommate also has an iPhone [she made the switch to ATT and has a 3Gs] when I mentioned my issues she agreed.
Said the call quality is crap and she now drops calls all the time and barely gets service in our apt [I magically get service where she does not though...guess its my unlocked phone working "much worse than one on its proper network" huh?]
I think the issue in the iPhone, ATT just makes it worse.
Jesus, video streaming takes a considerable amount of cellular network bandwidth - namely, a high upstream. International networks that already have excellent 3G deployments - like Vodafone or DoCoMo, can support high upstream speeds required for video calling.
Now, tell me, knowing AT&T's '3G' network reliability, would you rather a video call or a voice call?
I have the FUZE - a VideoShare equipped phone. Both callers need to be in a 3G area, you need the plan, etc, yadda yadda yadda.
All conditions were met... and the phone's Video Share icon was disabled for no particular reason. So if that's the ONE-WAY video experience, I'm sure 2-way is long off.
And at $0.25/min pay-per-use VideoShare, I'm sure it'd be much worse for 2-way calling.
(And for those of you WITH Video Sharing on your phones, 2-way is *semi-close* if you keep switching the sending caller throughout the call.)
@zaneboy40: WiMAX is not 4G. More pre-4G than anything.
But, well, yeah.
Once we see LTE in the actual real-world and not dimly lit laboratories in the middle of New Mexico bound to be destroyed by government cover-up, then we can see video-chat possibilities.
Maybe it's because nobody wants it besides maybe 5 people on this planet? Mobile video conferencing seems cumbersome as hell to me.
As for milking upgrades... Apple doesn't owe you anything, nor does it force you to buy a new phone each year. Seriously. What were your phone purchasing habits like before the iPhone came out?
Try the new "Knocking Live Video" [itunes.apple.com] app, the first streaming video application for the iPhone over 3G or Wi-Fi! It's buggy, but it does work. Read the [www.9to5mac.com] article for more information on how it even got released in the first place!
12/04/09
i know giz loves the iphone and likes the droid.. but i get a great discount with att and im not a fan of non tactile typing (i have an ipod touch that i love.. but i love the keyboard on my bb.. its the only reason i still like the phone).
so yeah.. yay or nay?
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if im not mistaken, this phone is similar to the ones i was talking about but shrunken back down to the size of the curve right?
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i will say this.. if apple made an iphone that had a slide with a bb quality keyboard and a trackpad.. id buy it.
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AT&T: "Chickening out, eh?"
Verizon: "Of course not....but come on. We are both public figures. Neither of us needs this bloodbath to be public. Oh, and there will be a bloodbath, friend. Make no mistake about that. But you and I? We'll do this as men. Barefisted in the back alleys. No cameras, no lawyers."
AT&T: "I accept."
*mutually-menacing handshake*
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The camera on the backside wouldn't be a problem if you just hold it up and talk in front of the mirror. Or if you video yourself from the neck down...
12/01/09
"We can replace your phone, but we'd need you to sign up for another two years and to move your upgrade date."
"But, you broke my phone, that isn't fair. This is a amss defect and another one will do it as well."
"We can replace your phone, but we'd need you to sign up for another two years and to move your upgrade date."
"... I'm going with AT&T, they'll give me a refurbed iphone for 50$ and charge me less a month anyway."
"..... uhhhhhhhh"
12/02/09
I vowed to never buy another LG and to leave Verizon as soon as my contract was up, which I did when it ended around the time the iPhone 3g came out.
Everyone is always hoping the iPhone comes to Verizon but I am praying any carrier but them gets it. The 2 years I was with them their customer service was so bad I could really care less how great their service was. No customer should be treated with such blatant disrespect.
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Same deal with me, but they wanted to extend my contract just to replace with the same phon, said if Iw anted a different one I myself would choose I would have to pay full retail, though the Nokia Intrigue I have, that they sell, has incompatibilities with their network that renders it unusable.
How has AT&T treated you?
12/02/09
With the iPhone, you just deal directly with Apple for hardware problems so that side I can't really say. Apple is pretty good with replacing a broken iPhone though. I've known several people that have shattered their screens and many have gotten it replaced for free and at the very least they'll give you another for the subsidized price (although it seems that if you politely complain enough they'll always give it to you for free)
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Gee, too bad they won't do that with me. It's either a new phone with a new contract, full retail, or I take the same phone and wait for it to die, all while they tell me to kindly go screw myself and that this is all my fault.
12/01/09
I have a jailbroken 2g running on tmobile, I used to have a blackberry pearl. From the day I got the iphone it started dropping calls, crap call quality etc. Problems I never had with the blackberry.
Fortunately I use my phone more for text, internet and email because it pretty much sucks as a phone and unfortunately that isn't ALL att's fault.
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However, my roommate also has an iPhone [she made the switch to ATT and has a 3Gs] when I mentioned my issues she agreed.
Said the call quality is crap and she now drops calls all the time and barely gets service in our apt [I magically get service where she does not though...guess its my unlocked phone working "much worse than one on its proper network" huh?]
I think the issue in the iPhone, ATT just makes it worse.
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I've used plenty of other phones that were unlocked and never had issues like this....
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Now, tell me, knowing AT&T's '3G' network reliability, would you rather a video call or a voice call?
I have the FUZE - a VideoShare equipped phone. Both callers need to be in a 3G area, you need the plan, etc, yadda yadda yadda.
All conditions were met... and the phone's Video Share icon was disabled for no particular reason. So if that's the ONE-WAY video experience, I'm sure 2-way is long off.
And at $0.25/min pay-per-use VideoShare, I'm sure it'd be much worse for 2-way calling.
(And for those of you WITH Video Sharing on your phones, 2-way is *semi-close* if you keep switching the sending caller throughout the call.)
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But, well, yeah.
Once we see LTE in the actual real-world and not dimly lit laboratories in the middle of New Mexico bound to be destroyed by government cover-up, then we can see video-chat possibilities.
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As for milking upgrades... Apple doesn't owe you anything, nor does it force you to buy a new phone each year. Seriously. What were your phone purchasing habits like before the iPhone came out?
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