In '98, I got invited to go watch John Glenn go back in to space aboard STS-95. We sat in the closest observation deck to the launch (closer than Clinton, who we could see behind us).
There is nothing in the world like hearing these engines at full throttle. Even at several miles away, the roar was amazingly intense, like standing in a blast furnace.
I can remember thinking at the time how amazed I was that we as humans could create this. We've got a ways to go before we can actually be considered a space-faring race, but just the fact that we're willing and capable of building machinery like this says a lot.
@Segador: you might not have known this but there is a very large noise suppression system for the Shuttle. The engines are loud enough that if they didn't have this it would damage the Shuttle and other items.
You can see the system in operation - it's the water spray that starts up a bit before the main engines light off.
Another successful launch, such a beautiful thing.
I do wish nasa had a site where it would have multiple camera views and you could watch one, or them all. Instead of watching 3 webcams, the one you provided, nasa's webcam, and the nasa channel on the tv.
And hopefully they will put a camera on one of the astronaut's helmet, so we can see from their view. #space
It is sad that the beautiful space ship is being retired soon. But, I cant wait to see (and hopefully go up on) the next vehicle that takes us to space. #space
@UnicornMaster: None. They use a cool mounting system. you just have to make sure you put the Shuttle on right side up. Luckily the jet has instructions:
@SteverMan: @Geisrud: Hey, hey. Let's be nice. I'm sure Camille has a WAYYY better solution to this problem, right Camille? Camille seems like someone who cares. Not like some idiots who run two dishwashers, rather than soiling their hands doing them by hand, and waste time, money, and water.
Can someone please explain why the Space Center is in Houston if they launch in Florida and sometimes return to California? Doesn't that just add communication complexity for no good reason? Why Houston?
Did anyone remember that the shuttle can generate some of its own lift? It is even mounted at a higher angle of attack. The higher angle of attack probably gets it closer to the angle at which it operates most efficiently. Once at speed the 747 might feel a minimal weight load (mostly a drag load). Where the 747 has to be exceptionally strong is standing still (or moving at 100 knots or less), when the shuttle is generating no lift (or next to no lift). Amazing feat of engineering on that 747's landing gear and tires.
@72Riv: See my comment above -- the shuttle is mounted such that it generates a slight downforce in order to simplify the mounting hardware.
The 747-100s used by NASA are almost completely stripped out on the inside (they're basically the cargo versions without the cargo-handling hardware). The shuttle is below -- actually, quite a bit below -- the maximum lifting capacity of the airframe. The takeoff weight of the 747 with the shuttle is actually less than the takeoff weight of a passenger 747 with a full 460+ passenger load fueled for a SFO-Tokyo run.
The trick with the shuttle ferry configuration is the greatly increased drag and the change in the overall vehicle's center of gravity -- not the weight.
2-3 stops to get back to Florida? Maybe this Shuttle thing is not that reusable and enviro-friendly after all. Why don't they just launch it from California? What a freaking waste. So long, shuttle. You suck more in my eyes all the time.
Nobody has ever claimed that the shuttle is "enviro-friendly".
They don't launch it from California because you can't launch things over populated areas. You maximize your lifting capacity if you launch in the direction that the Earth is spinning -- i.e. to the east. East of Florida is about 6000 miles of open ocean. East of California is all of America. You can launch into a polar orbit from California -- and the Air Force does exactly that from Vandenberg AFB -- but that's less efficient. There was a shuttle launching facility built at Vandenberg, but (a) it was only going to be used for military shuttle payloads -- spy satellites, which use polar orbits or sun-synchronous orbits (which are a specific type of polar orbit), and (b) the military decided to remove its payloads from the shuttle after Challenger, which eliminated the need for California launches.
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There is nothing in the world like hearing these engines at full throttle. Even at several miles away, the roar was amazingly intense, like standing in a blast furnace.
I can remember thinking at the time how amazed I was that we as humans could create this. We've got a ways to go before we can actually be considered a space-faring race, but just the fact that we're willing and capable of building machinery like this says a lot.
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You can see the system in operation - it's the water spray that starts up a bit before the main engines light off.
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Jesus is trying too hard to make a joke.
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See here for HD videos of launch. Great detail and awesome engine-start and booster separation. #space
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I do wish nasa had a site where it would have multiple camera views and you could watch one, or them all. Instead of watching 3 webcams, the one you provided, nasa's webcam, and the nasa channel on the tv.
And hopefully they will put a camera on one of the astronaut's helmet, so we can see from their view. #space
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About time they get some damn cupholders in the ISS #space
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The 747-100s used by NASA are almost completely stripped out on the inside (they're basically the cargo versions without the cargo-handling hardware). The shuttle is below -- actually, quite a bit below -- the maximum lifting capacity of the airframe. The takeoff weight of the 747 with the shuttle is actually less than the takeoff weight of a passenger 747 with a full 460+ passenger load fueled for a SFO-Tokyo run.
The trick with the shuttle ferry configuration is the greatly increased drag and the change in the overall vehicle's center of gravity -- not the weight.
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Nobody has ever claimed that the shuttle is "enviro-friendly".
They don't launch it from California because you can't launch things over populated areas. You maximize your lifting capacity if you launch in the direction that the Earth is spinning -- i.e. to the east. East of Florida is about 6000 miles of open ocean. East of California is all of America. You can launch into a polar orbit from California -- and the Air Force does exactly that from Vandenberg AFB -- but that's less efficient. There was a shuttle launching facility built at Vandenberg, but (a) it was only going to be used for military shuttle payloads -- spy satellites, which use polar orbits or sun-synchronous orbits (which are a specific type of polar orbit), and (b) the military decided to remove its payloads from the shuttle after Challenger, which eliminated the need for California launches.