Between "Omaha" and "Furniture store," it should have been everyone's first intuition that this was the Nebraska Furniture Mart, famously owned by Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway holding company. [en.wikipedia.org] I really wish the Gizmodo editors were versed with such basic information...
I am a little torn. I do agree that thieves are cowardly shits that should catch a beating for taking something that does not belong to them. On the other hand, videos like this (and any publicity related to) should motivate corporations, either through a sense of responsibility (yeah...right..I won't hold my breath) or public outcry, to take appropriate steps to ensure that hacks like this cannot overcome their tech.
But.......since a majority of ATM machines are made by Diebold (disclaimer: I have no proof to back that up) who are a corporation that cares not even one little bit about anything other than profit (FACT!), I have doubts that anything will happen to circumvent/deny/overcome these card skimmer hacks.
@10pound: Most hackers purposefully disseminate or publish hacks for that exact reason. Whether it's in regard to exploitable weaknesses in email system, or how to easily bypass deadbolt locks, the goal is usually to inform people that they are not as safe or secure as they believe themselves to be. The hope is that if companies won't correct the problems, that at least the affected individuals will realize the problem and take additional steps to remedy the situation.
Granted, there will be those who take the information and use it against those who haven't yet been made aware of the problem. The lag time there is a major issue. But, you can't withhold all information from the majority for the sake of it being misused by the minority.
In regards to your statement about Diebold; their concern is profit, and their profit is based on the security of their products. Banks won't invest in Diebold products if they are proven to be easily circumvented or compromised. Greed, like paranoia, is a fantastic motivator for the development of higher security. The bigger issue is that this is less Diebold's problem, but that of the bank, institution, or individual who owns the ATM. The security of my house isn't Medeco's responsibility. Even if I trust their product, it's my responsiblity (beyond manufacturer gross negligence or fraud), ultimately, to ensure that the product works and that I maintain awareness of it, and my property. Laxity is the first chink in the armor.
@met2art has an invisible star: It's one thing to disseminate the information. It's quite another to cash in on it, like these assholes do by trying to sell card skimmers to fraudsters.
@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: I agree, and I wasn't defending their actions, but just speaking in response to what @10pound had mentioned. These guys are obviously douchebags, and will no doubt be caught before long.
They have more videos on their youtube channel of finished products, and people commenting saying things like "wow this is cool how do i buy?" No question anyone who purchases, installs and collects money from one of these things should be sent to jail.
I've been keeping a lookout for these things at ATM's since your original article was posted several months ago. I haven't seen one yet but the two ATM's I use most frequently are the one at my main bank branch and the one in the police department at school... fairly safe and not overly susceptible to this kind of hack.... i hope.
So a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away I was on vacation in Ireland. One of the places we stayed at had skeet. While we were shooting the breeze and the clay pigeons we mentioned some of the placed we'd be visiting.
One of the gents running the shoot advised us to be careful in Dublin as the city is plagued by the new crime spree. Naturally we asked what it was all about. In a very serious tone he asked if we ever heard of carjacking. Well we bust out laughing and the bewildered look on this guy's face made it quickly apparent he did not understand our reaction.
"Heard of it? We invented it." we informed him, with a touch of sadness and embarrassment.
Curious, we asked for details knowing that handgun ownership in Ireland was illegal (at that time. Not sure if that still applies now) although citizens can own as many rifles and shotguns as they desire.
He told us that these young hooligans wait at intersections in the city. They target women who are alone in their cars and have the window open. Once stopped at a red light these guys run up to the car and hurtle a rat, mouse or other small animal in the car. The women freak out and quickly exit their cars, after which the guy jumps in and takes off.
We started laughing once again, sides hurting, eyes welling up with tears.
He then asked how it's done in America. We told him, "If you're lucky they just take your car. If you're not lucky, they take your life. Our carjackers use revolvers, not rodents."
The fact that their criminals were not using weapons didn't make it any less serious. Many crooks are, if nothing else, inventive and resourceful.
1- It's a Boa Constrictor, not a python
2- not very dangerous at that size (they only attack what they can eat, unless provoked/scared)
3- I have been bitten by a 10' pet boa and it barely even hurt (although it did scare the crap out of me).
In general, I think there is an unnecessary fear towards snakes that stem from a lack of knowledge.
@Rosa Golijan: Danger wise, nothing. One gives live birth and the other does not but they kill in generally the same way.Also, a 10' boa has a strong enough jaw to break facial bones, I know so. They are just unlikely to strike in such a way.
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@Rosa Golijan: Not much difference honestly- they are both non-venomous constricting snakes- that is that they constrict & suffocate their prey before they eat it.
I guess it would be like mistaking a German Shepherd for a Rottweiler: they are both large dogs with bad reputations, but still considerably different and not nearly as bad as their reputations.
I have had both pythons and a boa constrictor as pets and they are harmless. Yes, they may bite, but that would be the worse of it.
Side note- I am animal friendly and I do not feed my snakes live food (I don't like the idea of any animal being suffocated to death)
How about the opposite of a trap door? Or how about an ejection platform perhaps that launches you 30 feet in the air diagonally away from the ATM if you mistakenly put in the wrong pin, take too long to push/pull the card in the slot, or just go near the ATM?
@frigg: I was going to suggest Sharks with frikkin' laserbeams attached to their heads, but the amount of water needed made it logistically impossible.
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And I guess I'm the only one who goes to the furniture store with my old cellphones. I wonder what happens if you put your NEW phone in by mistake?
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But.......since a majority of ATM machines are made by Diebold (disclaimer: I have no proof to back that up) who are a corporation that cares not even one little bit about anything other than profit (FACT!), I have doubts that anything will happen to circumvent/deny/overcome these card skimmer hacks.
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Granted, there will be those who take the information and use it against those who haven't yet been made aware of the problem. The lag time there is a major issue. But, you can't withhold all information from the majority for the sake of it being misused by the minority.
In regards to your statement about Diebold; their concern is profit, and their profit is based on the security of their products. Banks won't invest in Diebold products if they are proven to be easily circumvented or compromised. Greed, like paranoia, is a fantastic motivator for the development of higher security. The bigger issue is that this is less Diebold's problem, but that of the bank, institution, or individual who owns the ATM. The security of my house isn't Medeco's responsibility. Even if I trust their product, it's my responsiblity (beyond manufacturer gross negligence or fraud), ultimately, to ensure that the product works and that I maintain awareness of it, and my property. Laxity is the first chink in the armor.
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I've been keeping a lookout for these things at ATM's since your original article was posted several months ago. I haven't seen one yet but the two ATM's I use most frequently are the one at my main bank branch and the one in the police department at school... fairly safe and not overly susceptible to this kind of hack.... i hope.
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One of the gents running the shoot advised us to be careful in Dublin as the city is plagued by the new crime spree. Naturally we asked what it was all about. In a very serious tone he asked if we ever heard of carjacking. Well we bust out laughing and the bewildered look on this guy's face made it quickly apparent he did not understand our reaction.
"Heard of it? We invented it." we informed him, with a touch of sadness and embarrassment.
Curious, we asked for details knowing that handgun ownership in Ireland was illegal (at that time. Not sure if that still applies now) although citizens can own as many rifles and shotguns as they desire.
He told us that these young hooligans wait at intersections in the city. They target women who are alone in their cars and have the window open. Once stopped at a red light these guys run up to the car and hurtle a rat, mouse or other small animal in the car. The women freak out and quickly exit their cars, after which the guy jumps in and takes off.
We started laughing once again, sides hurting, eyes welling up with tears.
He then asked how it's done in America. We told him, "If you're lucky they just take your car. If you're not lucky, they take your life. Our carjackers use revolvers, not rodents."
The fact that their criminals were not using weapons didn't make it any less serious. Many crooks are, if nothing else, inventive and resourceful.
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2- not very dangerous at that size (they only attack what they can eat, unless provoked/scared)
3- I have been bitten by a 10' pet boa and it barely even hurt (although it did scare the crap out of me).
In general, I think there is an unnecessary fear towards snakes that stem from a lack of knowledge.
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Out of genuine curiosity, what are the differences?
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I guess it would be like mistaking a German Shepherd for a Rottweiler: they are both large dogs with bad reputations, but still considerably different and not nearly as bad as their reputations.
I have had both pythons and a boa constrictor as pets and they are harmless. Yes, they may bite, but that would be the worse of it.
Side note- I am animal friendly and I do not feed my snakes live food (I don't like the idea of any animal being suffocated to death)
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Thank you, I'm here all week, tip your waitress!
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There's a ton of great alternatives from tazers to nets dropping from the ceiling.. maybe ankle cuffs deploying?
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How about the opposite of a trap door? Or how about an ejection platform perhaps that launches you 30 feet in the air diagonally away from the ATM if you mistakenly put in the wrong pin, take too long to push/pull the card in the slot, or just go near the ATM?
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