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    11/23/09

    In reply to Electric Rolls Royce Phantom Coming in 2010, Priced Just Around Half A Million Dollars
    Damn. It's uncanny. My house looks just like that one.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to Electric Rolls Royce Phantom Coming in 2010, Priced Just Around Half A Million Dollars
    I've always wondered - since I'm not rolling in billionaire trust fund money and don't have an ultra-successful startup - are Rolls Royces really much better than a top-of-the-line S-Class or comparable car? They are much more exclusive, but is there a tangible difference in comfort, ride quality, performance, etc.?
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/23/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: I couldn't imagine it would, but none of those give off quite that same roving art-deco-esque pinstripe-suited supervillain look.
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    Image of Yerzriknot Yerzriknot
    11/23/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: The main difference is you're more likely to get laid in this thing then your Jetta.
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    11/23/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: It's not really about being better in the end. Amongst the RR customers, it's difficult to impress anyone with the latest $50'000 car, you know, everyone of their friends can afford it, there's no bragging value to it; it's like bragging about having an iPhone.

    You have to multiply the value by at least 10 before anyone in these communities would even notice you have a new car.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/23/09

    @phoxdk: That's the purpose of the question: do you think that the car is better or is it just a $500mm penis enhancement? It seems like your opinion is the latter.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to Electric Rolls Royce Phantom Coming in 2010, Priced Just Around Half A Million Dollars
    You know, Jeeves, this electric Rolls is very nice, but it feels so....hollow. I just can't get over the fact that it's not leaving an exhaust trail......there's no...heart. No soul.

    Run over that kitten.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to Electric Rolls Royce Phantom Coming in 2010, Priced Just Around Half A Million Dollars
    An electric Rolls would probably have a range of about 14 miles, which would be just about to the end of the driveway for anyone who could afford one.
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    11/23/09

    @weatherman: haha a reverend couldn't have said it better.
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    11/23/09

    @PN - gooapplesoft: Well, he could have said it with a huge Ayyyah-Mennnn at the end. That might have been a little bit better.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to Electric Rolls Royce Phantom Coming in 2010, Priced Just Around Half A Million Dollars
    Two rolls royce posts in the last two days.... are u purposely trying to mess with my head?

    none the less these bulky monsters are perfect for huge heavy batteries.
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    I rather have "SecureFoam" and turn my car into a Canoli! #inflatableseatbelts
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    The-Simpsons-Rule!! promoted this comment aec007 was starred aec007 was unstarred
    Image of zounder1 zounder1
    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    Heck this has apparently hit a nerve. Another story on why to wear a seatbelt.

    I was on the last 10 minutes of a long drive when the car in front of me drifted into the rumble strips, the young driver overcompensated and proceeded to start weaving back and forth at 100km/h trying to compensate and ending up losing control. The car rolled at least 10 times, two tires tore off of the car and the other end up bent 90 degrees from normal. The car ended up upside down in the ditch.

    I immediately pulled over to help. (Five cars stopped actually, it was that spectacular.) I slowly approached the upside down smoking car and saw the kid (18 years at the oldest) hanging upside down still doing the death grip on the steering wheel. Both side windows were blown out so I started talking with him asking how he was. After a few minute hey undid his seatbelt, crawled out the window without any physical injuries.

    I handed him my cell phone and told him to call his parents and tell them his is ok. He mumbled it was a long distance call... I laughed and told him that was not a problem.

    Accidents happen and they can happen at any moment. This kid is alive now because he was smart enough to wear a seatbelt. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    As a person that was involved in a head on collision on a highway and lived to talk about... well anyone that does not wear a seatbelt since it is uncomfortable is insane.
    Yes, I was in a lot of pain, yes, the seatbelt put a nice bruise across the contact point. Yes, I had to sit on a traction board for 2+ hours while they tried to determine if I had any microfractures on my spine. And, yes I was still sore and recovering from the crash months later.
    If I had not been wearing a seatbelt I would be dead. If the three other people in the car were not wearing seatbelts they would also be dead.
    There is nothing that can adequately describe the force of impact of a crash. I could see out the front of the car (with rapidly approaching car) and a flash later all I could see was the crumpled hood blocking the entire view forward. The engine block got knocked under the car (as designed to prevent intrusion into the safety structure.)
    Please, please, please, everyone wear a seatbelt. It can indeed save lives.

    I don't care if it irritates your skin, I don't care if it feel constricting, it is there for an important reason; to save your life when the unexpected occurs. #inflatableseatbelts
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    Image of karatecarrot karatecarrot
    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    Like we firefighters need more compressed gas cylinders in a car. This just will make our job harder. I already have to check every pilar for side curtain airbag cylinders before cutting. The only way this stuff is a good thing is if the rest of the car is strong enough not to crush down on the patients. With the high strength steels in cars now when they do crush most departments can't cut through them. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @karatecarrot: You probably should wait to see the specs on this before lumping it in with proper airbags in the hazard category. I'm betting that these don't have the size or volume requirements that full-size airbags systems do and therefore don't have the same explosive hazard issues. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: All of the side curtain airbags are also small and have less volume the real issue is not to me it is for the patient. outside I am protected in all of my turnout gear and by the metal on my side of the pillar but they only have the plastic. I'm not saying it is a really bad idea just hoping that they can find a way to have it connected to the cylinders that I already worry about. The other thing with air bags is that they are packed so tight and have to expand so quickly that you trade that shock of hitting the belt for some really severe burns from an airbag deploying that close to you plus you still get the shock. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @karatecarrot: The tech description that I saw indicated that the gas for the seatbelts is located below the seating area. Dunno...I guess overall it's a catch-22. The stuff they put into cars to make it safer for the occupants during the collision phase also makes it harder to get them out afterward, but maybe if the tech weren't there, you'd have more fatalities in the first place. #inflatableseatbelts
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    Image of Cash907Censored Cash907Censored
    11/05/09

    @karatecarrot:
    Like we doctors need one more injury to treat. Nothing like explaining to a patient the after effects of the internal injuries the shoulder belt that saved their lives caused, and how long they'll be dealing with them. If these things can prevent or at least lesson the impact to the internal organs and surrounding soft tissue, they are worth whatever extra bit of attention you have to pay when cutting them out of their cars. Christ, you union guys love to bitch. We've had several new protocols heaped on us this year thanks to the H1N1 virus, but do you see us bitching about it? No, because that's how the medical field works... keeping our patients safer and healthier pretty much means a lot more work for everyone involved, but the ends justify the means. You think cutting up a car is complicated? Try cutting on human being sometime. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Cash907Censored: For the record I am not a union guy just a volunteer lieutenant on a small department. I also realize that my post was fairly bitchy I apologize however all of these little things cut into your "golden hour" the paramedic is always reminding us of. As it is where I serve from time of accident it can be up to a half hour before anyone reports an accident because of crappy cell service and few people traveling the roads at night, from there we have to respond from our homes (since there is no duty staff) to the station to get the rigs rolling. So if I don't have to worry about another damn cylinder I can get the patient onto a helicopter (the only way to get to the trauma center from here) and maybe they will survive. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    Why not save a bundle and just go with the Tiddy Bear? #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Homerjay is utterly alone.: hahahahaha, Titty bear! #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @LukeDukem: Hey! It's TIDDY bear and I'll thank you not to poke fun! #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    Mmm... reducing the pressure seatbelts put on people is a good idea. However, it seems that this would be more easily accomplished by changing the way seatbelts lie across your body. I mean, is a diagonal strip really the best possible design for these things? Even if the new design is a bit harder to put on, I can't imagine that it would be more bulky then belts with airbags built into them. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: unless you're going to get the people in the back seat to wear a 5-point harness, I don't think you'll find something that is as protective while still being convenient. The shoulder belt is pretty tried and true, and does a good job of grabbing a person at their torso's center of gravity.

    Getting people to wear a seat belt is the biggest problem - if it's less convenient to put on, people just won't do it (backseat passengers especially). The best seatbelt is the one you're wearing, after all. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: The belt crossing from shoulder to hip dramatically decreases the possibility of the upper body being thrown forward in an arc. (The lower body is restrained by the lap belt and rear declination of the sloped seat.) That, in turn, decreases the possibility of extreme neck and cranial injury due to accelerated whiplashing and subsequent snapback. A three-point harness is best, but the public would never accept it. It took decades for people to accept shoulder harness seatbelt systems, and many still find them irritating despite the overwhelming evidence of their success. The success of the "sports car" design had a large effect on the success of shoulder harnesses and "bucket seats" which were initially designed to reduce movement of the driver by hugging the legs and allowing them to be somewhat "enveloped" by the seat. Prior to that the majority of US cars had bench seats. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @met2art: It seems like any change in seatbelt design would need to start upmarket. For instance, have you seen the back seats in a Porsche Panamera? This is the type of car model that new seatbelt designs will most likely be introduced in. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @met2art: I agree with you on everything but the three-point harness. The standard belt in cars today is a three-point system. It attaches in three places.

    Now getting the average person to wear four or five point harnesses is another story. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @SSgtTEX: You're correct... I should have said that a three-point (or more) harness that connects from mid-seat and covers both shoulders is (typically) more effective at reducing back injuries and systemically-related neck and head injuries. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Well, Ford, after having invested ten years of R&D in this system will be introducing it into the Explorer model. They are hoping the rapid deployment into the market, and licensing to other manufacturers, will help recoup their significant investment. Also, they seem to be hoping that the system will become standardized in the same way that competing airbag technologies from the 60s through the 70s eventually did, and became designated as "SRS" and required rigorous testing. It would seem that Ford, despite economic setbacks, managed to develop something rather revolutionary. Here's hoping that if nothing else it helps encourage people in rear seats to wear their safety belts. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @met2art: Oh you mean the SRS that melted to peoples faces, chest, hands, and arms? Or the SRS that split heads open like grapes? Or the SRS that they finally sorted out which saves lives? ;) #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    a good idea, when i wrecked my ford explorer the air bags never even went off, not to mention the ABS locking up, but i don't see why this shouldn't work, I'm sure they've gotten around to fixing the little things #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    Having been inside the third car in a four car sammich I can tell you that mine and my gf's neck & shoulder hurt for a couple of days afterwards. We both also had some nice diagonal bruising where the belt made contact.
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    11/05/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: Been there fellow survivor... still better than the imprint my head would have made on the dash. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    You obviously don't have kids and don't know anything about children.

    A child can never be too heavily medicated. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Inflatable Seatbelts...Really Ford?
    I'm paranoid with seatbelts. Whenever I sit in a car, I need to put it on, no matter how uncomfortable. If I'm driving, you are required to wear them before I start the car. I've seen what not wearing seatbelts can do. #inflatableseatbelts
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    11/05/09

    @Vulphaestus: I won't start moving until all my passengers have got their belts on properly. I don't care if they don't want to wear one, if I were to crash it would ultimately be my responsibility.

    I still don't understand how people can drive around without one on. It's just ridiculous. #inflatableseatbelts
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