@nerve11: You know, if that's really a problem, I'm sure they'll be happy if you give them $1600 for it. Heck, they'll be SO happy that they'll give you a spare!
I dont get it. Its less powerful than even the plastic model Macbook, which is only 100 dollars more for a true graphics card and 10/100/1000 Ethernet.
Sooo whats the big deal with this? Its nice, but the Macbook is still a better machine statswise
@BrookeCossus: The only thing the Macbook has on this is the dedicated graphics card. All other stats on this machine beat out the macbook that I could see...
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It's really kind of funny how the 4500 gets dissed because of Intel's previous (useless) pseudo-GPUs.
It's really not that bad, certainly eons ahead of the GMA 950/3100/3500 of yore; I realize it's not *better* than the 9400M, but people aren't giving the 4500 the shot it deserves.
@crsh1976: Oh I have, we have a ton of Dells with them here at work. They are just as useless as previous chips honestly. Good for run of the mill stuff like surfing and WP, but useless with most fun stuff like games or moviemaker.
@Purple Monkey Dishwasher: You know, I've been (happily) noticing the lack of blend/Crysis comments around here lately. Good job, wielders of the banhammer.
This actually looks like a capable computer. Gaming will be limited due to the shitty graphics, but other then that its pretty solid. Especially when Windows 7 comes out. But...
Wow! Using Aluminum to make a laptop? Now that is innovative! Man they must of had some major brainstorming sessions to come up with this sheer genius material.
You know what? I think they should use this really cool technology where they take a single brick of aluminum and use lasers to carve it out, making it seamless!
@Hi, I'm God: Aluminium used in construction was an idea that Apple stole too. Yeah because toughbooks were never put in metal cases and Apple totally didn't get the idea to put a laptop in a metal case from them(sarcasm sentence). Also I believe Powerbooks used metal in their case's construction.
@Parentmk: Can someone explain to me why aluminum is so great on a laptop? I can see it being durable, and even providing a cooling effect, but as far as I have been able to tell, plastic has never been a hinderance in any of the laptops I've used. in fact, the only plastic laptop I've ever seen warp or split is the older white macs...
@closhedbb: Lots of laptops have this thick grainy plastic, an example being Dell's offerings in general. The only plastic laptop I really do like is the Thinkpad, as Toastie pointed out. The white Macbook is horrendous on the plastic, though my black Macbook remains in pristine condition to this day.
I think if Vista is running on a capable computer (which this is) I think it's quite a good OS. I wouldn't mind having it pre-installed on this (especially if I could get the free upgrade to Win7).
There's nothing inherently wrong with using the E5400.
It's still a Wolfdale core, it's just got a lower clocked frontside bus and a smaller L2 Cache.
The manufacturing process is the same as any of the Wolfdale cores though, the only reason it's called 'Pentium' is because Intel's marketing department doesn't want to cannibalize sales of the higher Core2 chips.
"Why should I trust a company that says their flagship all-in-one has an "Intel Pentium dual-core" inside, I don't know."
And you call yourself a tech writer... seriously, how could you not know that Intel's resurrected the Pentium name for their low-end Core 2 chips? They've only been doing this for about 2 years now.
In fact, here's the exact processor used in this system, the Pentium E5200:
@T-Will: To my mind they lack all the benifits of desktops:
-Weaker laptop hardware-Llimited upgrade options -You loose the monitor when it's time to replace it
You also loose the benefits of laptops
-Portability
-Independent power etc. All of this happens just so it can be pretty.
@Xeno: Depends on your needs. For the average consumer, a solution like this makes sense because they don't have to worry about choosing a new monitor when buying their PC for example. Less cables to manage, more desk space, and it comes with the peripherals you need to just use it out of the box. That's what people want.
@evangelistc01: You should just get a laptop then. They have the same hardware use even less desk space, require even less wire, and they are portable. I'm just saying that there is not one thing that AIO's do that another solution can't do better except look pretty and futuristic.
@Xeno: Except that I want a big monitor and don't care about portability, but I'm still working in a small space without room for a tower on the floor (and really without room on the desk for both a laptop and the monitor - not to mention not wanting to purchase both.)
but you're limited to smaller screen sizes with a laptop. The other issue is that with a laptop, your keyboard is tied to the screen. Sure you can add another keyboard, but that’s, you know, redundant. Plus a comparable laptop will likely cost a lot more than this thing, since it has an oh-so-expensive battery whether you use it or not.
@92BuickLeSabre I concede that there is a market for these since people are buying them and they are compact as well. Still it seems to me that they take the drawbacks of both platforms and combine them for the only benefit of a compact nature.
@bornonbord: "...criticism of the new photo layouts. I can't see on this page who wrote the article, or how many hits it has."
Thank you for saying so! That has been bothering me as well. So far, there's many things to like about the new commenting and layout, but this crazy photo spread design ISN'T one of them.
@bosskev: Sometimes we do feel a little left out. Especially when it goes to page 2. Not only are you not a star commenter, but you're in page 2 of unfeatured comments, or as I like to call it, the gray abyss.
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I dont get it. Its less powerful than even the plastic model Macbook, which is only 100 dollars more for a true graphics card and 10/100/1000 Ethernet.
Sooo whats the big deal with this? Its nice, but the Macbook is still a better machine statswise
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Nope the Macbook beats it.
Has faster buss speeds, faster memory, better possessor even though its not faster, and a better graphics chip.
I am wrong with the Ethernet though, it actually does have 10/100/1000 base internet.
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It's really kind of funny how the 4500 gets dissed because of Intel's previous (useless) pseudo-GPUs.
It's really not that bad, certainly eons ahead of the GMA 950/3100/3500 of yore; I realize it's not *better* than the 9400M, but people aren't giving the 4500 the shot it deserves.
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Wow! Using Aluminum to make a laptop? Now that is innovative! Man they must of had some major brainstorming sessions to come up with this sheer genius material.
You know what? I think they should use this really cool technology where they take a single brick of aluminum and use lasers to carve it out, making it seamless!
Copying Apple = good for the consumer.
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The sarcasm is great too. Maybe EVERYONE is copying GRID Compass 1101?
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and no that's not an Apple fanboy comment because it would look like an Air, it just looks cheap
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i really dont see how anyone can call this thing "bulky", even if it's only bulky 'compared to' another all in one.
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It's still a Wolfdale core, it's just got a lower clocked frontside bus and a smaller L2 Cache.
The manufacturing process is the same as any of the Wolfdale cores though, the only reason it's called 'Pentium' is because Intel's marketing department doesn't want to cannibalize sales of the higher Core2 chips.
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And you call yourself a tech writer... seriously, how could you not know that Intel's resurrected the Pentium name for their low-end Core 2 chips? They've only been doing this for about 2 years now.
In fact, here's the exact processor used in this system, the Pentium E5200:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072
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No, you shouldn't buy an all-in-one PC. The all-in-one Macs actually have decent specs/
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-Weaker laptop hardware-Llimited upgrade options -You loose the monitor when it's time to replace it
You also loose the benefits of laptops
-Portability
-Independent power etc.
All of this happens just so it can be pretty.
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There's a niche for almost any product.
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but you're limited to smaller screen sizes with a laptop. The other issue is that with a laptop, your keyboard is tied to the screen. Sure you can add another keyboard, but that’s, you know, redundant. Plus a comparable laptop will likely cost a lot more than this thing, since it has an oh-so-expensive battery whether you use it or not.
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OT: Here's another criticism of the new photo layouts. I can't see on this page who wrote the article, or how many hits it has.
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Thank you for saying so! That has been bothering me as well. So far, there's many things to like about the new commenting and layout, but this crazy photo spread design ISN'T one of them.
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Tweak tweak tweak! Ya'll'll get her done!
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Oh, balderdash! I don't need anyone else involved to excel at that function.
But, if you are feeling left out, I can offer you a hand...
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