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    Image of Radjago Radjago
    11/16/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    Why on earth is this being posted? I didn't know Kotaku had a position of commiserating with pirates. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Odin promoted this comment Radjago was starred Radjago was unstarred
    Image of Odin Odin
    11/16/09

    @Radjago:
    Not everyone who got banned was a bona fide pirate. Plus there was a bunch of people who got gouged because they bought 2nd hand 360s at the time and found they were banned. Thirdly this is a news blog and this is news. Finally this is Gizmodo and not Kotaku. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of Verno77 Verno77
    11/13/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    Yeah I figured out a great way...

    Not modding my Xbox 360. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    skaven approved this comment Verno77 was starred Verno77 was unstarred
    Image of hfm hfm
    11/13/09

    @Verno77: bingo.. guaranteed over 99% of the modders are pirating games. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Verno77 promoted this comment hfm was starred hfm was unstarred
    Image of Verno77 Verno77
    11/13/09

    @hfm: If you are being sarcastic, here's a correction...

    "Not modding my Xbox 360 so it can play pirated games"

    That's what I meant originally. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of cmanptown02 cmanptown02
    11/14/09

    @hfm: and the modders don't even realize they are hurting themselves and the developers. Less Money made means less money for future games which mean less quality games #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Verno77 promoted this comment cmanptown02 was starred cmanptown02 was unstarred
    Image of pevans34 pevans34
    11/14/09

    @Verno77: Yeah I hear that. The modding community b*tches and whines about being banned but if your not going to play by the rules you cant expect to treated equally. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Verno77 promoted this comment pevans34 was starred pevans34 was unstarred
    Image of Perk-i Perk-i
    11/13/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    If they're using the hardware mods to actively steal games, or hack in multiplayer sessions, I don't have a lot of sympathy for them.

    The people that this sucks for are the ones who were playing around with extended media-functions and home-brew.

    Someone with some money and a black-listed XBox seriously needs to file a challenge against the DMCA on this. AFAIK there isn't any case law surronding the "right to tinker". All the criminal prosecution I've seen for modded consoles has been based on the no reverse engineering clause in the DMCA.

    The fact that the DMCA exists at all goes to some deeper societal issues that I won't go into here lest steam start escaping from my ears... #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Perk-i was starred Perk-i was unstarred
    Image of adinnieken adinnieken
    11/13/09

    @Perk-i: This has nothing to do with the DMCA. This has to do with Xbox LIVE being a service and Microsoft defining under what circumstances a console can connect to Xbox LIVE.

    Microsoft has the right to define what hardware or software can interact with it's service. It is also a right of theirs to suspend or ban access to any console or user who violates the legal contract to which they agreed to.

    While I agree, there are people hurt by this measure which did not in any way do anything to tamper with, mis-use the service, or play unauthorized or pirated games, the blame for this "lockout" is not on Microsoft but on the people who did gamerscore/achievement cheat, and who did play pirated games.

    People can still have modified Xbox 360's. They can still use them for MCE's. They can even still get their systems updated (you can still burn updates to CDs). The only thing they won't be able to do is use those consoles to connect to Xbox LIVE.

    Microsoft isn't preventing anyone from modifying their consoles. They are preventing modified consoles from connecting to Xbox LIVE. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    crackel promoted this comment adinnieken was starred adinnieken was unstarred
    Image of Calzo Calzo
    11/13/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    They should have made the red rings of death blue. It's more fitting. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Calzo was starred Calzo was unstarred
    Image of Twanzio Twanzio
    11/13/09

    @Calzo: But they already had the BSOD. Next should be a Yellow Playlist of Doom for the Zune.
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    Calzo promoted this comment Edited by Twanzio at 11/13/09 9:18 PM Twanzio was starred Twanzio was unstarred
    Image of Calzo Calzo
    11/13/09

    @Twanzio: I use this formula: BXOD where X equals the way the Microsoft product tells you it's fucksville population it.
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    Edited by Calzo at 11/13/09 9:33 PM Calzo was starred Calzo was unstarred
    Image of vercordio vercordio
    11/13/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    The problem with this, though, is that you need a working, unbanned console, and when you're done you can't run both consoles online at the same time. So, for example, if you used a friend's Xbox, you could never again play online with that friend... or even play an online game at the same time as your friend.

    Kind of limits the fix, unless you know someone who never uses Live. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee promoted this comment vercordio was starred vercordio was unstarred
    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday
    11/13/09

    @vercordio: Which console "wins" if they both go online? #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/13/09

    @vercordio: I never go online. I might be able to help someone out, if they tell me what to do. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    11/13/09

    @vercordio:

    um, should i be concerned that the neighbor kid just came over to use my buddies xbox to change his gamertag? i'm positive he's a modder, so it only makes sense that his actions are in relation to the massive ban... #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of BeefSupreme BeefSupreme
    11/14/09

    @badhatharry: Here, let's save eachother some trouble: mail me your unbanned Xbox, and I'll mail you my banned one. If you don't try and go online, you'd never know it was banned. Problem solved! #bannedxboxworkaround
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    badhatharry promoted this comment BeefSupreme was starred BeefSupreme was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/14/09

    @BeefSupreme: OK. Send me yours first. My address is PO box 3682 Los Angeles CA 90042. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of SeanGone SeanGone
    11/16/09

    @badhatharry: gay pron on the way! #bannedxboxworkaround
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    badhatharry approved this comment SeanGone was starred SeanGone was unstarred
    Image of BeefSupreme BeefSupreme
    11/19/09

    @badhatharry: Hey Harry, thank you kindly for the offer! I'm tempted to send it out as a test of faith, but I'm content using my banned box to play single player games offline.
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    BeefSupreme was starred BeefSupreme was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/19/09

    @SeanGone: Joke's on you, that's my mother's mailing address.

    #tips
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    badhatharry was starred badhatharry was unstarred
    Image of STFU_FPU! STFU_FPU!
    11/13/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    Screw That! If they pirated the game they be outta luck I think! Then the game developers can concentrate on all who purchased it like the PC gamers and give us back Dedicated servers!!! I'm just sayin' Thiefs suck! #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of npd33 npd33
    11/13/09

    @STFU_FPU!: ... poor PC gamers, no more mw2 servers dedicated for you! I do want to know though... is there really that large of a difference in the online experience? #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Calzo promoted this comment npd33 was starred npd33 was unstarred
    Image of Calzo Calzo
    11/13/09

    @npd33: Not with ports open. Runs like a dream. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Calzo was starred Calzo was unstarred
    Image of gantou gantou
    11/13/09

    @npd33: well dedicated servers supported more people, and for me I like the fact that you can choose a favorite and play with the people you like all the time #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Calzo promoted this comment gantou was starred gantou was unstarred
    Image of STFU_FPU! STFU_FPU!
    11/13/09

    @npd33: YES, you can play with friends not just random people. And I though it harder to pirate on PC because the apps call home etc. maybe I'm wrong but regardless, if you stole the game on ANY platform you deserve to be blocked on 360 or ANY platform. The Devs put VERY hard work into these and it sucks to be stolen from! #bannedxboxworkaround
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    STFU_FPU! was starred STFU_FPU! was unstarred
    Image of STFU_FPU! STFU_FPU!
    11/13/09

    @npd33: Definitely! #bannedxboxworkaround
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