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    BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad

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    Image of Bigbadbikernerd Bigbadbikernerd
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    You know...if this was Microsoft instead of Apple, you would all be screaming at the top of your lungs about how the big guy was crushing the little guy.


    Oh well...

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    Image of Nick Nick
    06/10/09

    @Bigbadbikernerd: that is what everyone is screaming. big guy -- apple. little guy -- DVD jon
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    Image of SigmundTheSeaMonster SigmundTheSeaMonster
    06/10/09

    @Bigbadbikernerd: I find it irony that Apple is now the BIG guy (see Jobs greying face on the Big Screen) and the little guy running up with a sledgehammer...


    iZealots United Front!

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    Image of Nick Nick
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    so you're saying BART shot down his ad?


    too soon?

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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    ironically, he'll end up getting a lot MORE exposure than he would have if the ad had stayed up.


    smooth move, apple.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    06/10/09

    @nutbastard: Right... But now we're attempting to read between the lines, when there may not actually be any lines to read between.


    Itunes already supports several other media players besides iPods last I knew. But selling a product that defeats... Well, that strikes me as illegal. Whether we like the law or not.


    But, then again the city losing millions of dollars of ad revenue from Apple may certainly have something to do with it. However I personally find his placement of advertisement distasteful. It's a bit like wandering into your competitor's store wearing your Best Buy shirt and talking to the customers there.

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    Image of TrollSlayer TrollSlayer
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    Is a "DVD Jon" a guy who buys illegally copied DVDs?
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    06/10/09

    @TrollSlayer:


    no he's the guy who is at the forefront of defeating DRM of all kinds.


    [en.wikipedia.org]

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    Might I suggest that DVD Jon purchase ad space at the Spring St. (C/E) and Prince St. (N/R/W) stations.
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    it's HIS ad. if it isn't legible, that's HIS loss.


    this whole thing stinks of bullshit.

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    Sounds like a administrative law case in the making. I don't know what procedures California has for reviewing these determinations but here in NY, this smacks of an "arbitrary and capricious" determination.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    Maybe they should try the South Lake Union Trolly System [en.wikipedia.org] . I heard they have lower standards and can be bought easily.
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    Image of soggy_cheerio soggy_cheerio
    06/10/09

    @SafetyMachete_GitEmSteveDave: Ride the SLUT.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    Was there an ad there before? I think I remember that there was just glass and you could see the escalator etc. from the outside. BART could have just taken it down for being opaque and blocking out the natural light.


    But yeah, I don't really believe that. If it really violated some sort of BART requirement, I doubt that it would have been approved in the first place.

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    Image of DefineStatutory DefineStatutory
    06/10/09

    In reply to BART Tears Down DVD Jon's Apple-Baiting DoubleTwist Ad
    If Apple called and said we love the ad, and think you should put it up where all our ads are, because we're leaving, and taking our money with us, what do you expect the folks at BART to do?


    Sucks that the little guy gets screwed, but it would make sense for Apple to flex their shiny, minimalist, unibody muscles.

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    Image of Alphamazing Alphamazing
    06/10/09

    @DefineStatutory: Could that not be interpreted as breach of contract against DVD John? Or do they reserve the right to remove any ads as they see fit?
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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    06/10/09

    @Alphamazing: BART has the right to remove any ads, and has in the past when receiving complaints.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    06/10/09

    @Jim Topoleski: BART is also a municipal entity that has opened a forum to free speech. While commercial speech does not enjoy all of the protections of the First Amendment, it is protected speech nonetheless. This appears at first blush to be a violation of the Equal Treatment Principle of the Fourteenth Amendment.
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    Image of Bon5ai Bon5ai
    06/10/09

    @DefineStatutory: Sell that ad space to someone else? Apple couldn't give up that ad space, the company is entirely based of marketing so I doubt they would reduce it over a spat like this.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    06/10/09

    @Bon5ai: The ad space belongs to BART, not Apple.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    06/10/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Yeah, but BART is Apple's bitch.
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