I have owned both the Zi8 and the Flip Ultra HD. And I can say your review is spot on.
I do most of my shooting outdoor during the day and sometimes at night. And most of my video is of action sports like wake boarding, skiing, motocross, stuff like that. The Zi8 does perform better in perfect lighting conditions but the image is soooo shaky, almost making the video unwatchable. The funny thing is, I think it has an image stabilizer. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
Nice review. I only have one point of contention: these packet camcorders will be around for a long time. There seems to be this assumption that convergent devices like smartphones will drive everyone away from a device category such as this. I disagree. There is a significant portion of consumers that don't want convergent devices either because they're overly complex, or there's no need for a device that does everything. The nice thing about a separate device is that you can give it to members of the family or friends or tape it to your dog's collar and let them use it without taking away your phone, and if anything happens to it (gets dropped/dunked/buried/falls overboard or into a snow drift) you're not risking your phone. It's a type of device that's a lot more innocuous than the traditional camcorder, too. The quality, I think, will also improve over time. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
you guys did a review of this a bit more than a year ago and it has served me well. some of the 1080p video can be blurry a bit and other times look crystal clear. stills are hard to capture with out being blurry, but that seems standard with any video first recorder. does sounds well, you can set it up on its tripod it comes with and let auto focus do its thing. and the cost is right in line with these other guys maybe cheaper in places. if you like the option of the flip out screen this may be the way to go for you folks. i have used it in all situations and everything comes out great. indoor lights can make a bit of a reddish hue, but nothing that distracts from the subjects. outdoor at night in vegas looked good. in the air port and on the plane looked good. and can easily be operated by drunks. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
I have 2 Aipteks just because they're so cheap and the one high end model, if you can call it that, has served me well. I've only had one issue myself-at a concert the distortion is ridiculous. You can only hear muffled bass. I've yet to find a decent video camera that records concert audio without all the nastiness. Decent video camera (and camera) for the price and if you damage it or lose it, it's not all that big a deal. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
@otko: I have a Vado HD, and I think it's ok at a concert setting. It definitely has a compressor in there. The first bass kick will be badly distorted, but when the music starts, the bass kicks will be much better. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
I don't know what Apple was thinking with the Nano cam... This might've been a different list if we got that iPod Touch camera that we were expecting. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
@ripfire: Exactly! This is one of the key features for me. I record a lot of live music and would love to have an upgrade over the video from my G9 to go with it. Being able to run my Zoom H2's audio directly into the Zi8 is what has it at the top of my list. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
Thanks, since I was considering buying one of these. This kind of apples to apples non-Apple comparison is how I found Giz in the first place. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
I got my dad the WD HD TV last Christmas, and he loves it. I love it because it just works right out of the box and plays every format I throw at it, yet it's simple enough for a 65 year old man who's afraid of the iPhone to use. I bought a 2 pack of seagate 2.5" external drives from Sams Club for 130 bucks back in January, and once a month I'll pop over to my folks house and swap out the drives, leaving him with fresh movies and tv episodes to watch. He loves to brag to his friends about how his kid is so sneaky, and gets him "Hollywood movies that are still in theaters."
He's happy, I'm happy, WD TV gets two thumbs up. #hdmediaplayers
@Cash907Censored: The WDTV is the first gen with out ethernet, this article is about the WDTV Live also know as WDTV 2. Its got eithernet and some other differences. #hdmediaplayers
@bigdave914:
Yeah, I'm aware of that thanks. Thanks to a recent firmware update, the only difference between the WD HD TV and the WD TV Live (version reviewed above) is the newer model has an ethernet port. #hdmediaplayers
Good article. I have been looking over this info for a while now and glad to see it collected.
i like the idea of the Patriot, BUT I just don't see them following up with sequential firmware updates like WD will do (and has done with the previous WD TV).
I LOVE the specs of the Popcorn Hour box, but at that price and size, I would go for a PS3.
For features, support, and price, I think I am going with the WD TV Live (as soon as it actually freaking shows back up in stock somewhere). #hdmediaplayers
@Unknown2U: You'll be happy, this I know from experience. The Creton 6 tuner card will cost more than any of these boxes however. These are all in one single purchase devices. It's not a apple to apple comparison. #hdmediaplayers
@Unknown2U: I understand. Currently I love my CC tuners and will probably build a new WMC box with a Centon Tuner. What I'm saying is that these boxes serve a simpler task and even the most expensive of them is $300. #hdmediaplayers
do you really need to kill apple tv? its not like it's popular like an ipod. Isnt' this kinda like saying, "which soft drink will be the Fresca killer?" #hdmediaplayers
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I do most of my shooting outdoor during the day and sometimes at night. And most of my video is of action sports like wake boarding, skiing, motocross, stuff like that. The Zi8 does perform better in perfect lighting conditions but the image is soooo shaky, almost making the video unwatchable. The funny thing is, I think it has an image stabilizer. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
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Everyone knows that it's a joke of a video recorder. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
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you guys did a review of this a bit more than a year ago and it has served me well. some of the 1080p video can be blurry a bit and other times look crystal clear. stills are hard to capture with out being blurry, but that seems standard with any video first recorder. does sounds well, you can set it up on its tripod it comes with and let auto focus do its thing. and the cost is right in line with these other guys maybe cheaper in places. if you like the option of the flip out screen this may be the way to go for you folks. i have used it in all situations and everything comes out great. indoor lights can make a bit of a reddish hue, but nothing that distracts from the subjects. outdoor at night in vegas looked good. in the air port and on the plane looked good. and can easily be operated by drunks. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
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I have 2 Aipteks just because they're so cheap and the one high end model, if you can call it that, has served me well. I've only had one issue myself-at a concert the distortion is ridiculous. You can only hear muffled bass. I've yet to find a decent video camera that records concert audio without all the nastiness. Decent video camera (and camera) for the price and if you damage it or lose it, it's not all that big a deal. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
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Going after more info on the zi8 right now. #pocketcamcorderbattlemodo
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He's happy, I'm happy, WD TV gets two thumbs up. #hdmediaplayers
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Yeah, I'm aware of that thanks. Thanks to a recent firmware update, the only difference between the WD HD TV and the WD TV Live (version reviewed above) is the newer model has an ethernet port. #hdmediaplayers
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i like the idea of the Patriot, BUT I just don't see them following up with sequential firmware updates like WD will do (and has done with the previous WD TV).
I LOVE the specs of the Popcorn Hour box, but at that price and size, I would go for a PS3.
For features, support, and price, I think I am going with the WD TV Live (as soon as it actually freaking shows back up in stock somewhere). #hdmediaplayers
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My PC has Windows 7, I purchase this thing next year: [www.cetoncorp.com]
I rent 1 cable card for $4 a month. That device will allow me to record up to Six Live HD Channels Simultaneously.
Then I just use my Xbox 360 to watch TV.
Beats the PS3, let's face it. Most people watch more TV than they do movies. #hdmediaplayers
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The card pays for itself in one year if I get ride of my two DVRs from the cable company. #hdmediaplayers
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