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    Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments

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    Image of P3nnst8r P3nnst8r
    09/22/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    That would be a long ass walk to work every day.
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    Image of Gary_7vn Gary_7vn
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    I don't see any provision here here for sewage or water, which also increase the "load", so to speak.
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    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    Just build a freaking floating city. We're all going to be in water world, so now is a good time to get some practice.

    Bangladesh, it was nice to know you...
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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    They should turn it into a park like in NYC.
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    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    These architects must not be licensed or something...wow, stoooopid:

    1) the loading per-square-foot with these usages would be HIGHER than being used as a bridge, and duh, its a tired old bridge

    2) "Yeah, let's build a structure capable of having a half-million people on it that only has three exits...and one of them has a weather prediction of "wet, 52 degrees F with sharks"

    3) They must be out-of-area because anyone that's commuted (on a motorcycle especially) can tell you that mid-bay weather is a combination of North Atlantic and Siberian.

    4) "Yeah, let's build a 30ft-deep pool ABOVE work space. Ok, let's do the math: 7.4 gal/cu-ft * 8 lbs/gal * (guessing) 30-feet deep = 1776lbs / sq-ft.

    Let's compare: a 2010 Ford Taurus takes up 61.75 sq-ft of bridge, and weighs a tad over 4000lbs. That's a static loading of 64lbs/sq-ft.

    "Moronical."
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    The Lab promoted this comment Edited by loslosbaby at 09/20/09 6:38 PM loslosbaby was starred loslosbaby was unstarred
    Image of The Lab The Lab
    09/21/09

    @loslosbaby: +1 for doing the math. Additional +1 for showing your work.
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    It's nice the article mentions "Virtual Light". In William Gibson's novel, after German engineers use nanobots to build a replacement tunnel under the bay the entire Bay Bridge becomes unplanned squatter accommodation and street stalls. That detail arose out of his collaboration with another architect for the "Visionary San Francisco" museum show.
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    That pool seems to be about 5X the height of one of the figures or about 30 ft. deep. These architects are either sloppy or they like really, really deep pools.

    Also, this looks nice in clean white but the bridge is shitty, rusting metal. It looks like a cheap erector set. If they want to rebuild it with Apple-Brand white plastic, fine, but it is currently not so nice.
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    Image of skadoosh skadoosh
    09/20/09

    @The Lab: as awesome as a 30 ft. pool with a model of Atlantis in the deep would be, judging by the bottom figure the foreground @ 6 ft. tall, the pool would only be 20-22 ft. deep.

    also..what's up with the little grassy area directly beneath the pool?
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    09/21/09

    @skadoosh: My point still stands. The pool is unnecessarily deep. The diagram shows people lounging in the pool, it could be 4-5 ft deep. Maybe they are planning on having cliff diving competitions.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    Uhm, didn't a really large chunk of this fall down in the last big quake, which is WHY they're replacing it.

    "Sure, let's build apartments where the fucking thing collapsed previously. We'll make a killing!"

    Let's see, large cracks needing repair, structural damage from past quakes that has yet to be found... And, you're over water so if the damn thing catches on fire there would be basically no rescue for you.

    God I love Californians and their practicality.
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    Image of infmom infmom
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    I would just love to see where the contents of that swimming pool end up after the next earthquake.
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    Image of screemname screemname
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    The funny thing is, this replacemnt bridge originally was going to be a skyway, but the moron's in the bay area didn't like the "asthetics" of such a boring bridge, so instead of the original $980 million this thing is going to cost over $5 BILLION.

    And people want the governent run by a california congress woman to overhaul our healthcare system.
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    Image of ARP ARP
    09/20/09

    @screemname: Cites on the original cost v. new cost? So in your world, utility is the only thing that matters? So, the works Frank Lloyd Wright, Gheary, etc. are all worthless? Is the statute of liberty worthless? We can argue about the exact cost, but the bridge is going to become a part of the landscape of SF, so yeah, I'm not opposed to making it look good (within reason).

    Can you provide a specific cite that says that Pelosi runs the government? Is that a "lost chapter" of the Constitution? I was under the impression there were three branches of government. BTW- if you point to circumstantial evidence, I'm happy to pour on cites about who ran the last administration.
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    Image of darway darway
    09/20/09

    @screemname: As John Hodgman said recently: The root of California's problems are the Californians.

    [www.thedailyshow.com]
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    09/20/09

    @screemname: What did the "skyway" design look like? I'm curious.
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    09/20/09

    @ARP: Um, Frank Lloyd Wright only designed 1 building every for the government. Everything else was PRIVATE money. Thanks for trying..

    The Stature of Liberty, hmm. The statue was paid for by French donations from PRIVATE people. The statue's base was paid for by PRIVATE donations. Sorry, you fail again.

    Feel free to start your own collection at work to pay back the people of california and the US for the extra 10 billion to make a "pretty" bridge..
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    Image of Skeptic Skeptic
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    Well, aside from the "so dangerous we had to replace it" part and the lack of drive on access for apartment dwellers or emergency services, there is the issue of maintenance costs. Bridges are very expensive to maintain, more than a regular building. The apartments would have to be very expensive to pay for the constant repainting and such needed to fight off saltwater corrosion.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    09/20/09

    @Skeptic: Oh, and don't forget that occasionally barges and boats hit the damn thing.
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    Image of whormongr whormongr
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    while they were doing a ramp switchover on labor day weekend they realized that one of the connectors to a strut on the brige had recently just cracked open, they say it is because the bridge when originally built was not meant to last as long as it has- hence the need to build the new bridge

    [abclocal.go.com]
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    09/20/09

    @whormongr: Yep, it's slowly falling apart as it is. It's already beyond saving.
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    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    I don't get it... how does any of this stop the bridge from falling down?
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    09/20/09

    @PlayerX: This is a moran's guess...but maybe the single part of the span is immune to an earth quake because it's no longer connected to the rest of the structure. So, free floating it's safe. IDK.
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    09/20/09

    @FrankenPC: A MORON who can't spell MORON? GEEZ!
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    09/20/09


    @paintedangel: I assume it was a joke interwebs reference, also known as a meme
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    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    Puttting aside the issues of it being prone to falling down during an earthquake, you can count me among those who would love to have an apartment on the east span. I don't think it's likely to happen though.
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    Image of Lizard_King Lizard_King
    09/20/09

    In reply to Bay Area Architects Seek to Re-purpose Bay Bridge as Park, Apartments
    Is it me or does the 4th pic just seem poorly designed? The pool channel is way too deep, and what's with the ~3ft. crawlspace under it? Who the hell is going to mow the grass underneath it?
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