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    Image of masonsturtle masonsturtle
    12/12/09

    In reply to Best Buy Finally Offers Legitimate Sale Prices
    What's the difference between a 600Hz Plasma and a 60Hz LCD?
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    Image of NotSoSiniSter NotSoSiniSter
    12/12/09

    @masonsturtle: plasma as of now, have better picture. lets say you had both tvs side by side, then you had a cnn headline going across the screen on both of them. The plasma one would stay very crisp, the LCD would get blurred. So during a fast action sequence in a movie, the video stays crisp on the plasma but it can get blurry on the LCD. Realisticly, you cant notice it unless you compare it side by side, even then, its not that bad.
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    Ryan_Long promoted this comment NotSoSiniSter was starred NotSoSiniSter was unstarred
    Image of Ryan_Long Ryan_Long
    12/12/09

    @NotSoSiniSter: This is very true. My argument FOR 60hz TVs is that motion blur is a naturally occurring thing. When things start to look too crisp, like a movie like Spider Man for instance, it begins to look fake. It can make even live action begin to look like CGI.
    I prefer blurriness and fuzz, because that's what real life looks like. Maybe it's because I have terrible vision and have to wear glasses- but it's all I know!
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    Image of Bigbadbikernerd Bigbadbikernerd
    12/12/09

    @Ryan_Long: Or maybe you grew up trying to make out a boob on the scrambled Playboy channel like I did...
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    Image of Badongadoodle Badongadoodle
    12/12/09

    @Bigbadbikernerd: oh. that's why I cant see shit now.
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    Ryan_Long promoted this comment Badongadoodle was starred Badongadoodle was unstarred
    Image of bustedchain bustedchain
    12/12/09

    @Ryan_Long: I thought that way at first, but I made myself enable the 120Hz on my TV for a while. I got used to it, now I like it. When I watch other peoples' TVs, I don't miss it much, but when I watch mind I don't mind the effect and it does make things crisper. At first I thought it was surreal or too crisp / fake looking. My mind started processing it differently over time and now I see it more like I am looking through a window at the scene instead of looking through what a camera recorded.

    Not sure if that makes sense to you.
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    Ryan_Long promoted this comment bustedchain was starred bustedchain was unstarred
    Image of Branhower Branhower
    12/12/09

    @bustedchain: 120 Hz is where it should stop. I can't notice smooth motion anymore beyond that.
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    Ryan_Long promoted this comment Branhower was starred Branhower was unstarred
    Image of presto117 presto117
    12/12/09

    @Ryan_Long: i'm kind of conflicted when it comes to 60hz and 120hz. for one, i like the fact that it makes the picture look less blurry and sharper, but the demos at best buy just downright disgust me. it looks way too fake. sometimes it doesn't, so i'd have to test the tv first. the thing i like about 60hz TV's is that they're cheaper lol.
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    Image of bustedchain bustedchain
    12/12/09

    @Branhower: Sure, I absolutely agree. Accurate color reproduction is far more important than going beyond 120Hz. There is a slight difference at 240Hz and even smaller diminishing returns the higher you go.

    Accurate / true black level is more important too.

    I was trying to say that 120Hz over 60Hz is hard to swallow at first because there is a lot of difference and it looks too real, but at least for me I found that I got used to it and rather like it now. I don't dislike TVs that don't have it, but it just a nice thing to have now that I am used to it.
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    Image of TheRiseOfRoy TheRiseOfRoy
    12/12/09

    In reply to Best Buy Finally Offers Legitimate Sale Prices
    i work at CompUSA. we have better deals than that by far.
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    Alfisted promoted this comment TheRiseOfRoy was starred TheRiseOfRoy was unstarred
    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/12/09

    @TheRiseOfRoy: Yes, but can you beat tradekay.com? How about ustradebuy.com?
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    Image of fleebailey33 fleebailey33
    12/12/09

    @TheRiseOfRoy: the fake CompUSA, let the real one RIP. (Worked there)
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    Image of paulrules paulrules
    12/12/09

    In reply to Best Buy Finally Offers Legitimate Sale Prices
    600Hz? MINE!
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    Image of Zonky Zonky
    12/12/09

    @paulrules: That is the standard refresh rate for plasma nothing special there. The prices are good for LCD, but they are like that because they are 60Hz, 120Hz is now the standard medium to shoot for to getting an LCD. Feel free to enjoy laughing at those getting 240Hz,
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    12/12/09

    @Zonky: Yep, 60Hz means no 24p mode, which I consider an absolute must for Blu-ray content.
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    Image of weitengrong526 weitengrong526
    12/07/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
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    Image of ItsMeMasih ItsMeMasih
    12/07/09

    @weitengrong526: How is this fucktard not banned? This is the second post I've seen him spam.
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    Navin R Johnson promoted this comment ItsMeMasih was starred ItsMeMasih was unstarred
    Image of Navin R Johnson Navin R Johnson
    12/07/09

    @ItsMeMasih: He didn't get banned cause he didn't say "first"
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    Image of ItsMeMasih ItsMeMasih
    12/07/09

    @Navin R Johnson: I was aware of the "first" rule, the "crysis" rule, the "blend" rule, the "overlord" rule and the disemvowelment punishment, but I could've sworn there was a no spamming rule somewhere.

    Besides, isn't the ban-hammer supposed to swing with impunity at the whim of whomever carries such a weapon?
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    Image of LVP LVP
    12/07/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    This deal looked good to me, even got me in the store. Then I found out it's only on 46" and up screens.

    I'm looking for a 40".
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    Image of kingbob337 kingbob337
    12/07/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    Not to defend their strategy, but if you are getting the whole thing for 1650 and the tv is actually 1689, then you are still saving a shitton of money (free ps3, game, and movie).

    Oh shit, you need an HDMI cable. Tack on 10 bucks.
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    whiteflea promoted this comment kingbob337 was starred kingbob337 was unstarred
    Image of whiteflea whiteflea
    12/07/09

    @kingbob337: 10 bucks? Make that 50 if you are buying it at Best Buy (which you should never do).
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    Image of LVP LVP
    12/07/09

    @whiteflea: monoprice.com!
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    Edited by LVP at 12/07/09 10:05 AM LVP was starred LVP was unstarred
    Image of Tarv Tarv
    12/07/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    NEVER
    TRUST
    A
    BEST BUY
    OR
    FUTURE SHOP
    SALES
    TAG
    PERIOD
    .
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    Navin R Johnson promoted this comment Tarv was starred Tarv was unstarred
    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    12/07/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    If I ever saw a TV at BB marked at MSRP, I'd slap the nearest sales person and tell them they didn't make the fake price high enough...
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    Image of Emanuel Mendoza Emanuel Mendoza
    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    876
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    LVP approved this comment Emanuel Mendoza was starred Emanuel Mendoza was unstarred
    Image of LVP LVP
    12/07/09

    @Emanuel Mendoza: 5309? Jenny?
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    LVP was starred LVP was unstarred
    Image of saif32 saif32
    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    So wait a second, what's this whole Bing Cashback stuff? If I buy the $1000 bundle for this, PS3, bluray, game, and the 46" V-Series HDTV for $9xx.. and since Bing Cashback says 5-10% cashback for best buy, it means that I can get $45-$90 cash back?

    Get out! No way. How can they afford this??
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    Xagest promoted this comment saif32 was starred saif32 was unstarred
    Image of Xagest Xagest
    12/06/09

    @saif32:
    Because the point is to get people to use Bing instead of Google. The point isn't profit, it's marketshare.

    It's the same tactic they used on the XBOX. They lost millions on the XBOX, and now they got a ton of marketshare and are making a killing on the XBOX 360.
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    Image of Scott Thomas Lusk Scott Thomas Lusk
    12/06/09

    @Xagest: actually, they lost somewhere around $6-billion USD on the first Xbox and they're almost at that amount for the 360 as well. that of course is talking about just hardware. software they're making a killing.
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    Image of RainyDayInterns RainyDayInterns
    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    We agree with all the comments saying using MSRP is "normal" for calculating the "savings."

    There has to be a basis used...the MSRP is the only one that is "standard" across all the stores.

    However, who really cares what the "savings" really are? What is important is the price one has to pay.

    Why? Unless one is buying to resell at a profit, the "savings" are irrelevant. Buy what you can afford...OK, what you can afford at the best price.

    Wait...how do we know if we are getting the "best" price? What do they "normally" sell it at?

    Ahh..I guess this is why we are still interns...
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    Free PS3, game and movie with purchase of normal price TV? Now I'm no huge fan of Sony, but even if you find a cheaper 46" inch and buy the extras seperate, it would probably cost about the same. And you would have a Sony vs a Westinghouse.

    Then again the only Sony product I bought in years is the reader, and while I like the product the support for it terrible, so my ideal bundle would be a Samsung, Xbox 360, and $150 bluray player.
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    Image of whiteflea whiteflea
    12/07/09

    @thechansen: I don't think HD Guru or Jack Loftus are saying that the deal is bad and that you shouldn't go for it - they are just catching Best Buy in a lie. That's sort of the entire POINT of a free press. I keep seeing comments on this article to the same general point that you are making, that "it's still a good deal, so why complain?" but the fact is that Best Buy is misleading consumers and it's the job of the media (HD Guru, Giz, etc) to point that out and make sure people know.

    In my particular case, if I were in the market for an HD TV, I would probably jump at the $1100 savings deal, but I'd be much less interested in the actual deal they quote up there because it's only saving me around $50, which I could surely make up by shopping somewhere other than Best Buy, since they are already higher priced than many other retailers. Since I don't care about owning a PS3, really, the deal quoted in this article doesn't appeal to me.
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    Image of Aetius Aetius
    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    Does Bing cashback work in Canada? When I tried using it it took me to the US websites
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    Image of iamnotafish iamnotafish
    12/06/09

    @Aetius: +1 I'd like to know this too. I also want to know whether stuff ordered in the US and shipped to Canada counts for cashback. Does anyone know?
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: promoted this comment iamnotafish was starred iamnotafish was unstarred
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    12/06/09

    @iamnotafish: I don't know the answer to your question for sure but I do know the cashback is calculated only based on the price of the product excluding shipping and taxes. For this reason, I'm not sure if they care where you ship it to but then again, international shipping might negate the discount.
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    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    Using Bing Cashback, 15% on walmart.com, I just picked up a 120GB slim PS3 with an extra controller, Bluray remote, arkham asylum, infamous and the dark knight movie for $313 bucks plus some tax and free shipping with site to store.
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    Image of bpbp1002 bpbp1002
    12/06/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: I dont see the 15% anymore.. it was until Cybermonday
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    Image of Cheesus Crust Cheesus Crust
    12/06/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: The one you are referring is $370, I got it at BF.
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    Image of Rejexted Rejexted
    12/06/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Whoa, I had no idea cashback existed! Thanks for posting this. I'm looking to buy my first tower PC soon and this'll come in handy!
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: promoted this comment Rejexted was starred Rejexted was unstarred
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    12/06/09

    @Cheesus Crust: Yeah it was $369 but with the 15% cashback it was $313
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    12/06/09

    @bpbp1002: Actually, it's up to 20% now.

    [www.bing.com]

    Click the very first link at the top.
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    12/06/09

    @Rejexted: Yeah, it's great. I was skeptical at first because it works only if you go through Bing's website to get to those sites. But once you are on the sites, there's no notification that you got the cashback. Bing says it takes 1-2 days to update your Bing account to reflect your savings so I took a shot and hoped it would work. After a few hours I got an email and the savings did indeed show up in my Bing cashback account. Also, for some reason, if you go to the bing.com/cashback site and look for participating retailers, some of the more reputable stores don't seem to show up (Walmart and Dell for example). But if you type in Dell cashback or walmart cashback in the bing search field, one of the sponsored links will get you there fine. Dell is 20% and walmart just changed from 15 to 20% as well.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/06/09

    In reply to A Number of Best Buy's PlayStation 3/HDTV "Deals" Are Iffy
    I always see if I can find out what the Minimum Advertised Price is for an item- MAP means way more than MSRP on anything.
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