Gizmodo, you really need to check your facts before you go off on an atrocious tangent. THIS IS NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY! Even your precious iPhone does it!
@dcoaster: Each time an app tries to locate my iPod Touch (yes, it's locatable through wi-fi because of skyhook) it asks me if i want to disclose it.
Seems much better to me.
@dcoaster: Comprehension FAIL! We're talking about how creepy their commercials are and how creepy it is that the Pre sends info back about where you are and you're tryna hit us up with a practice whereby Apple (long ago) admitted to a kill switch for malicious iPhone apps (which they still have not ever used). If Palm admitted that, there'd be no problem. They'd simply be added to the list of companies who have a kill switch for their App Store apps (Android, Apple, etc.) This is different. The phone friggin sends back your friggin location periodically without your knowledge. That is fucking untenable.
@TheSonOfKrypton: WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE!? Wow. Someone needs to learn to read when they accept terms that they are bound to.
And you think this is malicious by Palm?! Get a clue!
@dcoaster: From my reading of the Giz article, it isn't saying that it sends anonymous information only when you are using a location-aware application (like Google Maps or the like). It says it periodically sends the data back--meaning not in the context of using an application, but just when it is idle. If that isn't the case and it just does it when in an application that uses GPS then whatever--you agreed to it. But if it is just "whenever", like when the phone is just idle then that is the problem.
@macmanwa: Close but not quite. When you initially TURN ON the phone, you are asked to accept Palm's Terms of Service and set up your Palm Profile. In those terms, you agree to this same thing. They will be gathering usage information from your device. HOWEVER, location-wise, you have to GRANT them access by turning on Location Services and agreeing to those *additional* terms.
@Brian: The Sad Panda: It's actually reasonably high. I think with a drag coefficient somewhere in the range of .11, if you can keep it from tumbling, it would go about 141 m/s or 315 mph sideways.
It's programmed to send the police to the base of the tall building the coordinates indicate once the velocity crosses the 90 m/s mark.
This actually makes me happy in way. Because this shows that the government it getting scared, they know people are are at breaking point and there is increasingly chance for revolution. The UK is pathetic at relovlt and protest and that is the first thing that needs to change.
Unfortunately, it is not just the UK that has toi change/revolt/protest. It is the entire global system. It was once about money, greed would rule the world and make money from the poor. But now it is about more then that, they have ALL THE MONEY, they have all the controll but they want the POWER.
As long as we keep giving away our freedoms with such crap as the fight against terror (which is really only a fight against those you cannot/find it hard to manipulate for your own political reasons) then we will never, as a people, regain controll of our society.
Their was an old saying that an English mans house is his castle, and it was still repeated in 2004 during my training as a police officer ( i quit after 4 years btw ) to make it clear that citizens should be free in their own homes. THAT WILL NOT BE FOR MUCH LONGER!
I know he is a tad outlandish and has a questionable past but David Icke certainly does sum up the situation well in some of his talks.
It will not be long before every street corner has a camera, speed cameras are coverted into ANPR machine (did you know that every trip you make onto a motorway is recorded and logged against you on a police intelligence system via ANPR....forever...FACT...i have used it on many occassions) and stop and search randomly will be back.
@pinshot: Of course, revolution will solve ALL your problems, especially with your ridiculous gun control. How do you propose the people would even revolt? With stab-proof knives and rolling pins?
You are an idiotic child-thing with no knowledge of history. You obviously don't know that Nutbastard was referring to the famous "I'm mad as hell" speech from the Academy Award-winning film "Network", which is one of the best and brightest examples of American Cinema ever produced. I have been very careful lately about responding to noob commenters, because it simply means that their ignorance will be broadcast for everyone to see, and it's best if they just keep silent.
But this shall not stand. HOW DARE YOU, SIR?! How DARE you come in here, into OUR place and spout your verbal diarrhea, clearly knowing not whereof you speak, at one of MY esteemed colleagues? The fact that you waited for the page to load, waited for the comments to load, and then waited to respond with a prime example of why state-supervised homes would only serve as an ineffectual measure in the stemming of ignorance speaks volumes in support of Nutbastard's comment.
You advocate violence against one of Gizmodo's best and brightest? You clearly don't know where you are or how to behave, and that is prime evidence of the deficiencies in your upbringing. I would imagine that your parents would be ashamed of you, but that would require them to have cared enough to steward and guide you in your youth. Clearly they thought it fine for you to behave in any manner that you see fit, and never bothered to instruct you in the ways of proper etiquette.
Rather than suggest that you follow your own advice, and end your wretched existence, instead, I implore you to more carefully guard your words in the future, and learn the rules that we hold true to around here. If you wish to continue having the PRIVILEGE to comment here, it's best you learn now than suffer the consequences of your own thoughtlessness later on down the road.
I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!
We all know things are bad -- worse than bad -- they're crazy.
It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."
Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.
I want you to get mad!
I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.
All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.
You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"
So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"
"Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and everything connected with it... All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children."
Government: Selling Providing for you shit you don’t want, wonderful social services against your will, according to democratic process, with money they stole taxed from your paycheck before you got any of it, and using it as leverage charity to control enhance your life.
strikethrough mysteriously not working + TCP error that wasted the 15 minute editiing window == otherwise good comment pissing and shitting all over itself.
And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
Its not like its any different in other countries, in the U.S we have laws to "protect us" but any federal agency could easily tap into phone lines and etc.
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Seems much better to me.
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creepy advertising girl. Is anyone really surprised?
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And you think this is malicious by Palm?! Get a clue!
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It's programmed to send the police to the base of the tall building the coordinates indicate once the velocity crosses the 90 m/s mark.
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Bristol, TN??
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Unfortunately, it is not just the UK that has toi change/revolt/protest. It is the entire global system. It was once about money, greed would rule the world and make money from the poor. But now it is about more then that, they have ALL THE MONEY, they have all the controll but they want the POWER.
As long as we keep giving away our freedoms with such crap as the fight against terror (which is really only a fight against those you cannot/find it hard to manipulate for your own political reasons) then we will never, as a people, regain controll of our society.
Their was an old saying that an English mans house is his castle, and it was still repeated in 2004 during my training as a police officer ( i quit after 4 years btw ) to make it clear that citizens should be free in their own homes. THAT WILL NOT BE FOR MUCH LONGER!
I know he is a tad outlandish and has a questionable past but David Icke certainly does sum up the situation well in some of his talks.
It will not be long before every street corner has a camera, speed cameras are coverted into ANPR machine (did you know that every trip you make onto a motorway is recorded and logged against you on a police intelligence system via ANPR....forever...FACT...i have used it on many occassions) and stop and search randomly will be back.
Stand up and dont accept this crap guys!
Enough said.
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WAKAWAKAWAKA!
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But this shall not stand. HOW DARE YOU, SIR?! How DARE you come in here, into OUR place and spout your verbal diarrhea, clearly knowing not whereof you speak, at one of MY esteemed colleagues? The fact that you waited for the page to load, waited for the comments to load, and then waited to respond with a prime example of why state-supervised homes would only serve as an ineffectual measure in the stemming of ignorance speaks volumes in support of Nutbastard's comment.
You advocate violence against one of Gizmodo's best and brightest? You clearly don't know where you are or how to behave, and that is prime evidence of the deficiencies in your upbringing. I would imagine that your parents would be ashamed of you, but that would require them to have cared enough to steward and guide you in your youth. Clearly they thought it fine for you to behave in any manner that you see fit, and never bothered to instruct you in the ways of proper etiquette.
Rather than suggest that you follow your own advice, and end your wretched existence, instead, I implore you to more carefully guard your words in the future, and learn the rules that we hold true to around here. If you wish to continue having the PRIVILEGE to comment here, it's best you learn now than suffer the consequences of your own thoughtlessness later on down the road.
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We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!
We all know things are bad -- worse than bad -- they're crazy.
It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."
Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.
I want you to get mad!
I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.
All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.
You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"
So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"
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Maybe GitemSteveDave could give em some pointers.
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strikethrough mysteriously not working + TCP error that wasted the 15 minute editiing window == otherwise good comment pissing and shitting all over itself.
what a great way to kick off the week.
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