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dankicksass
10/15/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
TMO kicks ATT's ass in NYmetro area service already, and that's pretty much all that matters to me. Their customer service is top notch, as good as Apple's, and their rates are solid as is. Make it better? You're fuckin right I'll have another slice of cake.
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InvaderPhlegm
10/15/09

@dankicksass: Geez Gizmodo, what a way to cover a week old rumor. You guys have certainly been napping if you have finally just gotten around to posting this bit of "news".

For those of you who only read Gizmodo, the deets on Project Dark are as follows.

1 - T-mo will be pushing that 21Mbps HSPA+ data service they just test deployed in Philadelphia, nationwide. Speculation has the nationwide roll out of T-mo's 21Mbps HSPA+ to be largely complete by the halfway point in 2010. So pretty much if you live in a larger metropolitan region already covered under T-mo's network, by next July you should be able to take advantage of the new speeds.

2 - As part of Project Dark (or Project Black, depending on the source), roll out of their 21Mbps HSPA+ network will accompany a new all-you-can-eat price plan that includes voice, data, SMS and MMS. Speculation once again has the price plan firmly set at $50/month.

3 - Finally, Project Dark will be launching with new 3.5G smartphones outfitted to take full advantage of 21Mbps HSPA+. The initial line-up of 21Mbps HSPA+ smartphones include two Android phones, a Blackberry and Nokia's new Maemo 5 powered tablet:

Blackberry 9700 (Bold 2)
Motorola CLIQ
Samsung Behold II
Nokia N900

Super, new network speeds, super low rate plan and a handful of phones that people actually care about. If true, T-Mobile has a whole lot of win in it's immediate future. Only thing missing so far, is the inclusion of Archos' new Android phone, based off the Archos 5 Media Tablet, set to premier in January at CES. Now that's a phone that I can get excited about.
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veronykah
10/15/09

@InvaderPhlegm: Fantastic, so I should just hang onto the Pearl and wait for all the fun new stuff to roll out to re-up my contract.
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dankicksass
10/16/09

@InvaderPhlegm: I don't know how to promote your comment cause I'm a rookie but I clicked some hearts. #wireless
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otko
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
I dig T-Mobile in black and white. Reminds me of when Superman was killed and returned with that b&w suit.

on topic-T-Mobile getting 21Mbps 3G would be mucho appreciado por favor cinco quintera. grande-but nix the whole rumor of those janky Nokia and Samsung handsets especially since Nokia isn't loving the 'droid
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veronykah
10/15/09

@otko: T-Mobile HAS 3g...

[www.t-mobileg1.com]
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otko
10/15/09

@veronykah: Um, I said 21Mbps as per the rumor of Project Black/Dark. I'm well aware that T-Mobile has 3G, I had a G1 for a bit. The expansion/rollout is going quite well. #wireless
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veronykah
10/15/09

@otko: Oops, I missed the 21mbps part.
What is their 3g now?
I have an old pearl so I don't get to experience it anyway... #wireless
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tande04
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
Uh yeah its a 3G rollout with their new pricing for an unlimted plan, not a phone. Thats been known for a long time.

What also has been known for a long time is that its the Nokia n9000 which is anticipated and has received lots of interest from people on this site.
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se5k
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
i want an N900.
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wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
10/15/09

@se5k: Yeah, I really don't get the article's pointed slam of Nokia. The 72 is going to be a nice refresh of the 71 hardware, and the 900 looks shit-hot.
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davezatz
10/14/09

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Kyocera #1!
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amg206
10/14/09

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Am I the only one hyped for the N900 to drop?
Nokia has made solid phones for a long time now.
I was more than happy at Tmo since sidekick color and left for a far worse experience at ATT with the iphone.
The N900 will bring me back to Tmo and there will be punch and pie!
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wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
10/15/09

@amg206: I'm with you. I was on the fence about getting a carrier-bound 900 (as I'm on AT&T at the moment) but with no AT&T-band version announced I was debating transferring my number, but with the announcement of Dark/Black? Yeah, I'm in. I'm very, very in. To be honest, there just aren't other phones that do as much for me as this piece of Maemo-packing pie.
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nakmario000001002003
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
I wouldn't mind an N900.
I do, however, mind parting with a CRAPload of my money. I think the Giz is sayin that the Samsung phones are generally pretty boring, and the decent Nokia phones are either boring and affordable, or ridiculously expensive to obtain.

I think most of the Giz-gadgeteers here are sensible folk who want affordable tech.
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wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
10/15/09

@nakmario000001002003: I think the expectation is that since T-Mobile will subsidise the phone, we might see it bow in the US at a somewhat reasonable price. But yeah, the unlocked price is a kick in the balls.
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ddhboy
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
First, loosing the Hero to Sprint was an unforgivable mistake. Second, no one who knows technology gives a shit about Nokia, and the only reason why they're the number one cellphone maker in the world is because they make cheap phones that carriers give away for free (and thus "sell" the most). Does Nokia have some great phones? Sprinkled in there yeah, but it certainly isn't the iPhone, and it damn well isn't the HTC Hero.

For Project Black to work, they really do have to have that 50 dollar unlimited internet/text and minute plan. Why? Because sprint has Unlimited internet/text, and 450 minutes for 60 bucks, and damn near every virtual cellphone network is going everything unlimited for 50 bucks. Additionally they have to throw their FULL SUPPORT onto smartphone platforms like Android, Blackberry, and Windows Mobile (I don't like it, but its better than Symbian), and not just the MyTouch and whatever Google branded HTC phones the company manages to get their hands on.

And finally, they need to find a new Sidekick. The Sidekick sells gangbusters yes, but either T-Mo is going to have to seriously push Microsoft to make serious revisions to their product, or find someone who will make something similar but of better quality with a better OS.
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HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
10/14/09

@ddhboy: I think the Cliq could easily replace the Sidekick, if it's priced right and Motoblur lives up to its hype. We shall see.
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HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
10/14/09

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Hey, even if they only deliver "European-priced packages", I'll bite. The Europeans pay way less for the same service we get.
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ninjagin
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
I've been with T-MO for a long time, since before they were T-MO, and I've been satisfied with it. Service and support has been great, especially now that they have mountaintop support in Summit County. If they're doing something dramatic, maybe it's soon going to be time to get a smartphone from them.
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newgalactic
10/14/09

In reply to Rumor: T-Mobile Project Black Isn't a Phone — It's a Rescue Plan
Can't comment on Project Black. But I will say that I'm seriously considering TMo for an Android phone. It's a technology I'd like to support, and I also like their pricing. Yeah, their network has the least coverage. But I'm willing to support them so they can build upon it.
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/14/09

@newgalactic: I will attest that TMo has decent coverage in LA (a major metro area I know.) I have had an Android phone for a couple months now, and it is a good system.
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SQLGuru
10/14/09

@newgalactic: I'm looking at Sprint for the Samsung Moment and a family plan (with 5 lines, Sprint is cheaper than TMo for the same level of feature).
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veronykah
10/14/09

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I know its crazy but how about the iPhone on T-Mobile? Samsung and Nokia? No thanks.
Combine that with blazing speeds, reliability, great pricing structure and fantastic customer service...THAT would make everyone's head spin.
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Michael Foote
10/14/09

@veronykah: The Iphone is ONLY available via ATT.
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veronykah
10/15/09

@Michael Foote: I know the iPhone is from ATT
I'm saying T-Mobile should GET it, the ATT contract with Apple can't be indefinite.

And as far as a jailbroken iPhone, sure I'd do it but I'd be happy to take a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone from T-Mobile.
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richoncode
09/04/09

In reply to What Is This?
See a simulator for the Groovik's Cube here: [rhondabailey.com]
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IN THE FACE!
09/04/09

In reply to What Is This?
I'm going to venture to guess that it is an Art.
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JonathanATTY
09/04/09

In reply to What Is This?
@Dufus..They do. As you change the cube, the colors on the larger one change..
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dufus
09/04/09

@JonathanATTY: Very cool!

Now I wish I were at Burning man...
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