@bandit: Or is it that since it's not going through a government server, like the secure device does, it will require an external source to "back up" the data.
It looks like President Obama has outlasted the Secret Service and will be allowed to keep his beloved BlackBerry 8830
I have bad news for the secret service. He is the President. He can do whatever he damn well likes. If he wants to go visit foreign leaders and do a little M.C. Hammer dance move while replying to his homeys on the 8830, then that is exactly what he will do.
I am still kind of confused as to why he can use if for personal use. If the worry is that someone could hack the system to find him through the GPS, or get into his personal information, what changes if he doesn't use if for "business" purposes.
I doubt he is texting the nuke launch codes to Biden anyway.
@zenpoet: And what is the official line on what is business and what is personal? If he sends an email to someone saying he will "be late to dinner b/c he's in tough negotiations", is that a mix? The dinner is personal, but if someone on the other side of the negotiations read that he felt they were "tough", that would affect something official. Very gray/fuzzy line, and those only get fuzzier.
@zenpoet: Same here, could open the doors for GPS tracking terrorists etc. kinda weird. He IS the President, he should just ask RIM for a secure private Tower with a billion MHz "whatevers" so he can be on his OWN network completely secure! heehee
Not trying to sound like a troll, but is he trying to say there are communications that he can have with people outside his family int he government/private sector that he doesn't have to tell anyone about? Isn't that something people lambasted the last administration about?
@StacheSportin'_GitEmSteveDave: Just because he can keep it and have it for "personal use" doesn't mean the data isn't available for sifting through if a subpeona asked for it.
I think the issue was the opposite - that if he tried to use it for everything, official business wouldn't be secure.
@Zlevee: But just like my old Internet connection at work was for "business" only, it didn't stop me from eventually surfing the web updating my blog and other stuff for 5 hours a day. When you start with a "fuzzy" definition, it's like the camel's nose in the tent.
@Jrsy is the dude, now with 2/3rds less Dude: Actually, it wasn't the password that was the problem. It was her hints to reset the password. The person in question merely reset her password by answering the security questions.
@Philip Marquis: Oh dear Gods, please use your spell check. I know you said that it's "TS" you spell the way you do, but I used to proofread lower school kids papers that had better grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Your posts sometimes become painful to read. Second, Jonestown used Flavor-Aid.
Lastly, yes, they did have a record. But my point is that at first there was a boundary, and it became fuzzy. I wasn't the leader of the United States of America though, and didn't send out any information that could result in bad things happening that could affect many people.
@Toastie: I used to read kids papers while I was in school. So I'm used to reading gibberish/common spelling errors. Plus I've dealt with this guy before, so I'm used to his writing. [i.gizmodo.com]
What I don't get is that if he's the president, can't he just make the rules and tell them he'll use whatever he wants to use? What are they going to do, impeach him?
@SJRNWT: Uhm, the Afghanistan war is very much justified for having started it. Now the bigger question you should be asking is why was the initial decision to go to war w/ Iraq damn near unanimous? Even Bill Clinton supported it.
But of course, when the "evidence of weapons of mass destruction" never appeared... Well, a lot of people backtracked and the Dems weren't quite capable of holding the Dems responsible for their own votes. So they just blamed the republicans and Bush instead.
@Lite: Likes movies about gladiators.: And also, do you know that President Bush was the Commander-In-Chief of the military and could have told the Captain of the ship to take down the sign before he spoke in front of it?
Speaking in front of it was obviously acceptance of the message, as well, he has said it was a regret of his that he spoke in front of that banner, so he clearly didn't blame the men of the ship as you so have.
@smcallah: Actually, the sailors requested permission to make the banner, and Bush's people agreed to indulge the sailors. Yes it turned out to be a bit of a gaff, but these guys were coming home fresh from a war. Damn them for wanting to indulge a few sailors! Damn them all to hell!
I don't think he blames the men at all. Hell, I don't blame the men. The sailors were happy to be home, they accomplished their mission. The end. I don't like Bush either. I just don't blame him for things he didn't do. He did enough on his own w/out people making crap up.
Hell, he helped save 10 million people (Aids, Africa, yadda) but you won't hear about it anywhere.
Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.
"We took care of the production of it," McClellan said. "We have people to do those things. But the Navy actually put it up."
@kukhuvud: i have an 8830, it slips right into my jeans pocket, and i'm ready to rock. it's tall and wide, but it's nowhere near as thick as some other smartphones out there. and the height and width allow for a nice big screen and keyboard, so they actually serve a purpose.
the only thing that makes me laugh: verizon's got the 8830 in a hideously ugly silver color. sprint has is in this beautiful, sleek black. i somehow can't picture obama, one of the youngest people to ever be elected president of the US, carrying a fugly silver phone.
I can't believe they can't work out something to spoof his location and super encrypt his messages. I mean, if the feds can stage a moon landing, can't they figure out a way to let the guy use his phone?
Well, he should have known that his private live won't be present after he gets elected. Sucks to be him. Must be hard for anyone giving up email and everything these days, I don't think I would spend hardly any time on the computer if it wasn't for email and IM.
Still, Bush did it for 8 years, and if an idiot like him can do it, I'm sure Barack will too (on the other hand, Bush probably didn't even know how to use email when he got in office, so he didn't lose much)
@huth.sebastian: Not to ruin the joke, but I've actually heard that Bush was the first President to have to send out an "I'm sorry I have to close this account" email when he took office. Clinton (I think) simply never used it while in office even though the rise in email usage occurred while he was President.
"Since I do not want my private conversations looked at by those out to embarrass, the only course of action is not to correspond in cyberspace. This saddens me."
It's bad enough that US Presidents traditionally wear some of the most poorly cut suits of any world leader, but were Obama to be allowed to keep his BlackBerry, he would ruin an already poorly-tailored boxy suit even further.
The only thing worse is if he were to sport a Bluetooth headset (Jabra - I'm looking at you)
As a Jersey Shore resident, I could instantly picture Barack in sandals and socks, in typical Benny fashion. All he would need is to keep the nuclear football in a fanny pack to make the image complete.
@Cameron Barker: This is a gadget blog. The POTUS is one of the most important people in the world, and is addicted to, you guessed, a gadget, which he is forced to give up. Let's sum up: a gadget blog reporting a gadget related story. Where's the problem here, exactly?
@Wegmans: It frustrated me that he is about to become the President of the most powerful country in the world, and he gives a shit about his blackberry.
@Shamoononon has hebetudinous dog ★★★★★: You're right, he shouldn't be a human being with idiosyncratic concerns about how he is used to managing his communications.
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I have bad news for the secret service. He is the President. He can do whatever he damn well likes. If he wants to go visit foreign leaders and do a little M.C. Hammer dance move while replying to his homeys on the 8830, then that is exactly what he will do.
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I doubt he is texting the nuke launch codes to Biden anyway.
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I think the issue was the opposite - that if he tried to use it for everything, official business wouldn't be secure.
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well you see your IT guy and i mean the network admin not the computer admin..
has a log of the sites you visated and what you did...thay just dident give a shit about what you did..
and actuial even persinold convershaions are subject to
public record and freedome of informashion act
and im quite sure the SS and coungriss insisted he turn over his persinol email info so it can be monaterd too..bc he dosent have privacey any more..
pluss with what he just said today i dont think knowing who hes emailing and what its about wont be that hard to git...
o and i took a sip of the Obama kool aide with his speach today about the FOIA and it is good...
im still not sure if this is jones town II yet or not..
but if he holds true to this promise and keeps this streak up..ill be drinking gallions of Obama aide per day..
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Lastly, yes, they did have a record. But my point is that at first there was a boundary, and it became fuzzy. I wasn't the leader of the United States of America though, and didn't send out any information that could result in bad things happening that could affect many people.
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But of course, when the "evidence of weapons of mass destruction" never appeared... Well, a lot of people backtracked and the Dems weren't quite capable of holding the Dems responsible for their own votes. So they just blamed the republicans and Bush instead.
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Speaking in front of it was obviously acceptance of the message, as well, he has said it was a regret of his that he spoke in front of that banner, so he clearly didn't blame the men of the ship as you so have.
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I don't think he blames the men at all. Hell, I don't blame the men. The sailors were happy to be home, they accomplished their mission. The end. I don't like Bush either. I just don't blame him for things he didn't do. He did enough on his own w/out people making crap up.
Hell, he helped save 10 million people (Aids, Africa, yadda) but you won't hear about it anywhere.
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Your facts are not entirely correct. The following is from a CNN article on CNN.com:
Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.
"We took care of the production of it," McClellan said. "We have people to do those things. But the Navy actually put it up."
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That has been debunked. Anyway isn't it sad that they'd blame the military in the first place?
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Actually, I usually hang it off my pocket, but still.... that 8830 isn't a svelte phone!!
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the only thing that makes me laugh: verizon's got the 8830 in a hideously ugly silver color. sprint has is in this beautiful, sleek black. i somehow can't picture obama, one of the youngest people to ever be elected president of the US, carrying a fugly silver phone.
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Still, Bush did it for 8 years, and if an idiot like him can do it, I'm sure Barack will too (on the other hand, Bush probably didn't even know how to use email when he got in office, so he didn't lose much)
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Ahhh, here it is in fact:
"Since I do not want my private conversations looked at by those out to embarrass, the only course of action is not to correspond in cyberspace. This saddens me."
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What hope is there for the rest of us??
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... on his belt.
It's bad enough that US Presidents traditionally wear some of the most poorly cut suits of any world leader, but were Obama to be allowed to keep his BlackBerry, he would ruin an already poorly-tailored boxy suit even further.
The only thing worse is if he were to sport a Bluetooth headset (Jabra - I'm looking at you)
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Oh now you did it! How soon before we see the Jabra Obama BT headset...?
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Your belt is not a curtain rod and should not be treated as one. We do not hang things from our belt unless our name is Batman.
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Stop ruining the English language. I agree with your post but really the "POTUS" thing really annoyed me. President would have sufficed.
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it's not like he's going to miss checking the weather every 5 minutes... it's more like being in touch with everyone
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