@GitEmSteveDave_SaysHappy40thJesus: His Alieometer wasn't calibrated during original design. Clearly the pads inside aren't spaced correctly for alien frequency bands.
@Jrsy Devil's Bright Idea®: OMG, why would you do that!? You're not supposed to break the chain, what you should have done is "I'm not you're guy, bro" or something of that sort.
CORNWALL: "Lest it see more, prevent it. Out, vile jelly!
Where is thy luster now?"
GLOUCESTER: "On the back of mine eye
which thou now holdest in thy cruel hand."
@AkkiRonin: no, you were supposed to continue and say, it's a play. something like a book. and then i was going to reference twilight, because it's probably the best book of all time. and then we were supposed to go on for around 30 more comments in an enthralling version of why won't anonymoose let this die part 2? part 1 was my goldfish that i had on life support. and by goldfish, i mean great aunt.
@iatacs19: I love my glasses. They are a part of me now. I understand that people who have really terrible vision without their glasses hate their specs, but I'd never give mine up.
most likely not - since the contact lens with the cells are on the surface of the eye and do not migrate actually deep into the back of the eye where the retina and optic nerve attach. basically this is just a novel way to keep cornea cells actually on the cornea so that it can regrow. if there was a way to put retinal stem cells on the retina to regrow (where it doesnt diffuse into the eye), then it might work.
I'd love to see what it would do to someone who isn't as blind...as opposed to lasik or in conjuntion with lasik maybe we can get back to 20/20 and if it doesnt revert then that'd be awesome
@TheSaint: Laser eye surgery can already give you better than 20/20 vision. Combining it with stem cells will probably give you laser eye powers or something.
@TheSaint: I don't think this would work on people who have simple myopia since there really isn't anything wrong with the eye other than the eyeball being more oblong.
With X-ray vision though, would you ever be able to turn it off? I am not sure if I would like seeing through everything 100% of the time. Might make driving a bit difficult.
@tok3ninja: Well, I mean, just because private industry and every other nation on Earth could study/experiment with them during that whole time, that's the ONLY reason there hasn't been advances.
@RideMyDiscoStick?_GitEmSteveDave: Except that embryonic stem cells could be used to do exactly this and more. Just think of what we would have been able to do if there hadn't been a ban at all...
@tok3ninja: "I know! And to think we all believed Bush when he said stem cell research was evil."
Oh don't forget the tons of liberals that stood by Bush in thinking the research was wrong.
Fucking idiots. Always insulting bush at every turn. Hmmm, don't forget when Clinton cut funding to a lot of Military and NASA research. Oh wait, don't talk about it. Clinton and Obama are gods.
@Sacchinftw: So what exactly stopped the rest of the world, places which according to Michael Moore have better health care and services, and also private industry(including IN the USA) from showing us?
@Sacchinftw: Good idea, but no. The stem cells would be rejected by the host body as foreign bodies, just like any other implant taken from a different organism.
@Rabid Penguin: It's not like anyone gets abortions to further stem cell research. If they're happening anyway, why not help people with the fetuses?
And, I'd like to point out that even though some are pro-choice, no one is pro-abortion. Everyone who makes up their minds on issues based on what some group (political party, church, etc.) says automatically tries to make the other side seem completely wrong and/or evil, instead of realizing there are always pros and cons to every opinion and as a result people who don't blindly abide by what someone else says are hurt. Contrary to what some idiots say, an abortion clinic will not suck out a baby the second you walk in, they are against it as well and only use it as a last resort, after offering assistance in the adoption process and suggesting other alternatives, as well as giving you a waiting period to think about it.
Even if you believe abortion is murder (it's your opinion and I wont fight you on it), if it happens, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU NOT USE IT TO HELP PEOPLE. If you can save 10 lives for something that some don't even consider wrong, why not go for it?
Not funding stem cell research is not something that deters people from getting abortions, so shut up and let the human race advance without dragging the catholic church kicking and screaming along the way.
@mferrari: I'm not sure what you mean by your last statement. I'm not Catholic. You don't have to be Catholic to know baby killing is wrong.
Abortion is legal. Sure. But why should I have to give my money to someone because they want to kill the baby that's inside them? They should have to pay for it themselves or get the money from some place that is not the government (ie tax payer money).
I'm all for advancement, but not at any cost. To me, the ends does not justify the means. And in the case of embryonic stem cell research, we're not even sure what the "ends" are.
And if you take this article for instance. The eye was repaired without the use of embryonic stem cells. Babies didn't have to die.
@philibuster: There are ways to get around the assumed notion that the body would reject ESCs, for example, giving people who are injected with these cells, immunosuppression injections. This would theoretically prevent a body with a healthy immune system from rejecting the ESCs before they could do their job.
Of course this all is just a theory seeing as no one has injected a human being with ESCs to see if they'd be rejected or not, just mice. The fact is that former President Bush's ban significantly delayed research in a critical area of science.
@pangelboy: Again, how? There was only a ban on federal funding of research on lines that were not in existance before the ban. NOTHING stopped the rest of the world AND private "big pharma" from researching. I hate to say it, but if the only way something is getting cured in this world is if it has US federal funding, I'm scared.
@RideMyDiscoStick?_GitEmSteveDave: big pharma actually relies fairly heavily on federally funded, published research to base their work.
Embryonic Stem cell research has taught us a lot about how stem cells work, and using that knowledge we'll be able to use adult and placental stem cells for actual therapeutics.
@poorGeek: You mean "we are able" not "we will be able", right?
@killerpotato: Again, so if the US government doesn't fund it, it can not be done? Scary thought. I mean, we're in financial trouble as a country, so does that mean the world will not get another cure or treatment for anything until OUR economy improves?
@WiiPoleNotIncluded_GitEmSteveDave: Given the fact that the U.S. has the higest consumption per habitant rate of world resources and money expenditure, it`s not so hard to think that "if the U.S. does not pay attention to something, said something will not develop or even exist". If you look carefully at the flow of goods and money, you will see that they usually tend towards the U.S.. In order to sustain the american lifestyle, resources from every corner of the world should be focused to the U.S. economy and thats exactly what is happening today. So, yeah, if the goverment of the country that rules the world econmy does not fund something or bans its investigation .... ok, i think you get what im trying to say here.
@Eimor: BUT, the "ban" was just a "ban" of federal funding on research involving ESC lines NOT in existence before the date it was enacted. It in NO WAY stopped private funding or non-federal subsidized research. There was not ANYTHING forbidding research by anyone on ESC, just federal funding.
If this was something that was so promising, how hard could getting private funding to research it, or getting federal funding from another country? Again, just b/c the US government didn't fund something, don't say that so much "progress" was lost.
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@Fractal the Meek: You should try Velo-stat, like my lovely assistant. [www.stopabductions.com]
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This treatment does not miraculously give you perfect vision. It's a treatment method for people with physically damaged corneas. Not nearsightedness.
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the question now is, can the cells be used to rebuild the optic nerve and retina?
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most likely not - since the contact lens with the cells are on the surface of the eye and do not migrate actually deep into the back of the eye where the retina and optic nerve attach. basically this is just a novel way to keep cornea cells actually on the cornea so that it can regrow. if there was a way to put retinal stem cells on the retina to regrow (where it doesnt diffuse into the eye), then it might work.
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With X-ray vision though, would you ever be able to turn it off? I am not sure if I would like seeing through everything 100% of the time. Might make driving a bit difficult.
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Oh don't forget the tons of liberals that stood by Bush in thinking the research was wrong.
Fucking idiots. Always insulting bush at every turn. Hmmm, don't forget when Clinton cut funding to a lot of Military and NASA research. Oh wait, don't talk about it. Clinton and Obama are gods.
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And, I'd like to point out that even though some are pro-choice, no one is pro-abortion. Everyone who makes up their minds on issues based on what some group (political party, church, etc.) says automatically tries to make the other side seem completely wrong and/or evil, instead of realizing there are always pros and cons to every opinion and as a result people who don't blindly abide by what someone else says are hurt. Contrary to what some idiots say, an abortion clinic will not suck out a baby the second you walk in, they are against it as well and only use it as a last resort, after offering assistance in the adoption process and suggesting other alternatives, as well as giving you a waiting period to think about it.
Even if you believe abortion is murder (it's your opinion and I wont fight you on it), if it happens, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU NOT USE IT TO HELP PEOPLE. If you can save 10 lives for something that some don't even consider wrong, why not go for it?
Not funding stem cell research is not something that deters people from getting abortions, so shut up and let the human race advance without dragging the catholic church kicking and screaming along the way.
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Abortion is legal. Sure. But why should I have to give my money to someone because they want to kill the baby that's inside them? They should have to pay for it themselves or get the money from some place that is not the government (ie tax payer money).
I'm all for advancement, but not at any cost. To me, the ends does not justify the means. And in the case of embryonic stem cell research, we're not even sure what the "ends" are.
And if you take this article for instance. The eye was repaired without the use of embryonic stem cells. Babies didn't have to die.
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Of course this all is just a theory seeing as no one has injected a human being with ESCs to see if they'd be rejected or not, just mice. The fact is that former President Bush's ban significantly delayed research in a critical area of science.
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Embryonic Stem cell research has taught us a lot about how stem cells work, and using that knowledge we'll be able to use adult and placental stem cells for actual therapeutics.
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@killerpotato: Again, so if the US government doesn't fund it, it can not be done? Scary thought. I mean, we're in financial trouble as a country, so does that mean the world will not get another cure or treatment for anything until OUR economy improves?
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If this was something that was so promising, how hard could getting private funding to research it, or getting federal funding from another country? Again, just b/c the US government didn't fund something, don't say that so much "progress" was lost.