Crunching numbers on this green house, I reckon $60k plus a generous $10k maintenance allowance for the power system over the years it takes to recoup the losses.
Taking a true-cost approach, I'll ignore subsidies, though that certainly cuts the time in half for early buyers.
Pulling $180 per month out of my butt as an estimate for conventional power, I come up with about 32 years to pay off the difference. Which... is actually pretty good aside from the pile of Li-ion and silicon waste left at end-of-life.
@dragon:ONE: A Michigan/Ohio/Indiana secret that could, if they tried, give WalMart a run for the money. Everyone shops at Meijer, not Walmart, when you have one available.
Wow, it's really weird you'd post this only a couple days after I just happened to order Robocop and Terminator from Amazon. It's not really a sale, the prices have been that low for awhile. As I never got to see these movies in the theater (sheltered child) it seemed like a good pair of movies to start my jump to Blu Ray. #bluray
Robocop was a silly ass movie with a whacky premise.
It was also the best damn movie I remember as a kid, and one of the few that I can actually look back on and genuinely enjoy, unlike old 80's anime. Such an awesome and purposely funny movie. I'd sure as heck buy this, except I don't have BD player yet :S
I'm building a system that outclasses this with a Cooler Master ATCS 840 case.... for hundreds less. It's a novel design and if the customer care is good it may be worth it. But I can make mine with 23" Samsung monitor and premium mouse and keyboard for just over 3k... where as all that would run you closer to 4k with this system. It does look bad ass though :) #maingear
Judging by the logos on the inside of the 5.25" drive bays that case is designed by Silverstone. Silverstone has also introduced cases with the vertical motherboard tray to it isn't that far of a stretch. The case alone is probably worth around $200.
The watercooling isn't anything special and you can get a similar corsair watercooling system for less than $70. #maingear
Wait. Am I getting this right? A custom gaming PC maker is focusing on making actual PCs with a clean aesthetic and not clunky, garish things that look more like they belong in a ricer's garage than a workspace? This, after a Wii accessory in the likeness of a baby doll comes out?
That case is awesome, I wish more computers came with aluminium/metal cases instead of boring plastic. But if it's going to over inflates the price by $1000, then I think I'll pass...thank you #maingear
I don't get why people BUY custom PCs, the fun part is getting all those parts in the mail and putting it together yourself and paying as little as humanly possible for the absolute most performance.
If i wanted a pre-built a desktop I'd buy a mac. #maingear
@Jesustron: What you don't get is that most people aren't computer techs or know anything about the inside of a computer. And they should not have to know about what is inside the computer no more than you should know how to work on a car to drive it. Computers are used as appliances to check email, entertain people, browse the web, be productive, etc ... Period. For some of us, knowing everything about a computer is what we like to do. It doesn't make us better and it doesn't make the main stream public stupid. #maingear
@Christopher Cox: And what you don't get is that 99% of the targeted demographic wouldn't even give two hoots about buying a pre-built rig because they already know better. This rig is NOT meant for casual use. If you buy this solely to check e-mail and browse the tubes then you are a gigantic boob.
This is the modern-day equivalent of going to your parents and asking for a pony and getting a rocking horse. They'll jokingly consider it until they see how much it really costs and after picking their jaws up off the floor go get a PC-in-a-box from best buy.
Impressive? Yes. Cost effective? Not so much. #maingear
@OMG! Ponies!: You snot noised brat!!! No other way to say it, your stupid! Can't believe some idot even wrote that!!!!! You want to be jobless you little dick prick? I work for automakers, ALL. ONLY GM and FORD use american made parts. Most parts going into your toyota's and honda's and others are from other countries. So a company, let's toyota, builds a assembly plant in america and dumb asses like you think wow, it's american made and they employ americans. News for you, you dumb piece of shit, they only employ the 2-3000 people working there, big fucking deal. 1 GM assembly plant buys it's PARTS from american suppliers and indirectly employs over 200,000 people. Big fucking difference. yes UAW sucks ass, but reality is unless you idoits start buying ford or GM you will see millions of jobs lost! Come on be smarter, do so research before you open your mouth!!! I wish I could educate everyone but I realized there will always be MORONS like you, and your to stupid to educate enough to see the light. dumbass!!!!!!!
@OMG! Ponies!: You snot noised brat!!! No other way to say it, your stupid! Can't believe some idot even wrote that!!!!! You want to be jobless you little dick prick? I work for automakers, ALL. ONLY GM and FORD use american made parts. Most parts going into your toyota's and honda's and others are from other countries. So a company, let's toyota, builds a assembly plant in america and dumb asses like you think wow, it's american made and they employ americans. News for you, you dumb piece of shit, they only employ the 2-3000 people working there, big fucking deal. 1 GM assembly plant buys it's PARTS from american suppliers and indirectly employs over 200,000 people. Big fucking difference. yes UAW sucks ass, but reality is unless you idoits start buying ford or GM you will see millions of jobs lost! Come on be smarter, do so research before you open your mouth!!! I wish I could educate everyone but I realized there will always be MORONS like you, and your to stupid to educate enough to see the light. dumbass!!!!!!! #xbox
@OMG! Ponies!: I'm less concerned about whether the employees are unionized and more concerned that American companies are being destroyed and Americans are losing their jobs.
@troyolson92: I've thought of whether to respond or not. And I choose to.
First of all, for the record, my comment wasn't one of my trademark trollmines.
It was a facetious jab at the notion that cars like the Toyota Prius* are in line with the majority of the liberal agenda.
I say the Prius because it is notoriously a "statement" car. Sure, it's SULEV, but it is also a major donor to the GOP because of its staunch anti-union stance. The Toyota, Honda, and Nissan plants in Kentucky, Alabama, and Mississippi are the reason that the Senators of those States were so firmly against bailing out GM.
I also say this on the heels of last night's "Daily Show" which featured a segment on this kind of product identification. It's kind of silly to boycott a company because its CEO writes an Op-Ed out of line with your liberal views and then buy a car from a company whose corporate practices are even farther out of line.
Welcome to the Internet. You need to settle the fuck down and realize that sometimes, people say facetious things on blogs. How you have managed to live in America in the 21st Century and still not comprehend the notion of "sarcasm" is fucking inconceivable.
*Fair disclosure: I drive a Honda Insight. I drive it because it was free. I do like some of the features in the new Ford models but I like that my car gets 50+ mpg with 78k miles more. #xbox
@troyolson92: You're argument is that Ford and GM are the best because use American made parts and employ Americans to assemble their cars. Are American made products imbued with some special magic properties that make them greater than products made elsewhere? Are they indestructible? Near wear out or break down?
And how about those American workers. If some of my coworkers are to be used as any indicator then I'd say they're lazy, incompetent sacks of shit who care more about collecting a paycheck then actually doing their job the correct way. And what of the unions? Cars were manufactured long before unions came around and I suspect if the UAW was disbanded tomorrow, we'd still be building cars. Unions are also one of the factors in why car prices are what they are today.
I got a new car once. It was a Ford and it was a piece of shit so sorry, but the whole Buy American thing doesn't really carry as much weight with me anymore.
"unless you idiots start buying ford or GM you will see millions of jobs lost!"
BTW statements like that aren't going to win people over either... #xbox
I remember noting to the Apple employee how ironic it was when I bought my iPhone 3G to replace my old WinMo phone and I was being rung up and registered on a Symbol WinMo POS. Guess it won't be so ironic when I go to buy my 3GS soon...
Is Apple going with something grown in-house or another, updated Symbol product? The article is a bit confusing in the phrasing - admittedly, I also don't know if EasyPay is an in-store reference to the general system of paying without a register or a Symbol brand. #xbox
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Taking a true-cost approach, I'll ignore subsidies, though that certainly cuts the time in half for early buyers.
Pulling $180 per month out of my butt as an estimate for conventional power, I come up with about 32 years to pay off the difference. Which... is actually pretty good aside from the pile of Li-ion and silicon waste left at end-of-life.
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It was also the best damn movie I remember as a kid, and one of the few that I can actually look back on and genuinely enjoy, unlike old 80's anime. Such an awesome and purposely funny movie. I'd sure as heck buy this, except I don't have BD player yet :S
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The watercooling isn't anything special and you can get a similar corsair watercooling system for less than $70. #maingear
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Times are a' changin' indeed. #maingear
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If i wanted a pre-built a desktop I'd buy a mac. #maingear
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This is the modern-day equivalent of going to your parents and asking for a pony and getting a rocking horse. They'll jokingly consider it until they see how much it really costs and after picking their jaws up off the floor go get a PC-in-a-box from best buy.
Impressive? Yes. Cost effective? Not so much. #maingear
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Only a liberal would buy a car built by UAW workers. Bust a union - buy a Toyota. #xbox
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Detroit is in shambles for a reason. #xbox
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First of all, for the record, my comment wasn't one of my trademark trollmines.
It was a facetious jab at the notion that cars like the Toyota Prius* are in line with the majority of the liberal agenda.
I say the Prius because it is notoriously a "statement" car. Sure, it's SULEV, but it is also a major donor to the GOP because of its staunch anti-union stance. The Toyota, Honda, and Nissan plants in Kentucky, Alabama, and Mississippi are the reason that the Senators of those States were so firmly against bailing out GM.
I also say this on the heels of last night's "Daily Show" which featured a segment on this kind of product identification. It's kind of silly to boycott a company because its CEO writes an Op-Ed out of line with your liberal views and then buy a car from a company whose corporate practices are even farther out of line.
Welcome to the Internet. You need to settle the fuck down and realize that sometimes, people say facetious things on blogs. How you have managed to live in America in the 21st Century and still not comprehend the notion of "sarcasm" is fucking inconceivable.
*Fair disclosure: I drive a Honda Insight. I drive it because it was free. I do like some of the features in the new Ford models but I like that my car gets 50+ mpg with 78k miles more. #xbox
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And how about those American workers. If some of my coworkers are to be used as any indicator then I'd say they're lazy, incompetent sacks of shit who care more about collecting a paycheck then actually doing their job the correct way. And what of the unions? Cars were manufactured long before unions came around and I suspect if the UAW was disbanded tomorrow, we'd still be building cars. Unions are also one of the factors in why car prices are what they are today.
I got a new car once. It was a Ford and it was a piece of shit so sorry, but the whole Buy American thing doesn't really carry as much weight with me anymore.
"unless you idiots start buying ford or GM you will see millions of jobs lost!"
BTW statements like that aren't going to win people over either... #xbox
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Is Apple going with something grown in-house or another, updated Symbol product? The article is a bit confusing in the phrasing - admittedly, I also don't know if EasyPay is an in-store reference to the general system of paying without a register or a Symbol brand. #xbox