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    Image of frigg frigg
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    ASCAP and BMI are great organizations made up largely of musicians. ASCAP and BMI made it possible for musicians to get compensated when other businesses were profiting from their music.

    Prior to ASCAP and BMI, musicians were the King's servant, producing musical morsels that enriched everyone but themselves. Thanks to ASCAP and BMI, musicians whose music became popular could earn income from their work and afford to spend their time writing music instead of filling gas tanks.

    Without ASCAP and BMI, most of the music people love would not exist. ASCAP, BMI, and similar organizations founded by musicians around the world set the stage for the explosion in popular music in the 20th century.

    Something like this, that makes it easy to vilify ASCAP, and puts them in the same category as the RIAA for people who don't understand the difference, is a shame.

    If recorded music isn't paid for, it doesn't get made. But no one seriously thinks anyone is going to pay for previewing music, and thinking of a preview as a performance is all kinds of ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that's just a shot across the bow.
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    Image of macpatrik macpatrik
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    Here's what I find funny, they want royalties from a fucking 30 second clip of a song but don't want any from a youtube clip that plays the entire thing? Music industry, go fuck yourself.
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    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    sorry sir, if you want to test drive this car, that will cost $50. you know, gas and milage costs
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    Image of mono2is mono2is
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    nanananananah!, this is completely wrong and upside down... The music industry should pay ME for listening to this adverts. In fact, most of the times I don't like the song and stop the preview before it ends so I want my money back. I think that after listening to 40 or 50 previews I should get a song for free (BTW that's a good idea!, Dear Apple: implement it in iTunes ASAP, if I listen to a lot of previews, chances are I'll buy more songs or albums, so encourage preview listening!)
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    Image of Robusto68 Robusto68
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    "Dear music industry: go fuck yourself."

    I don't think you ever really need a specific incident to proclaim that sentiment.
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    Image of kriv kriv
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    You should have left that post at the first six words. No more needs to be said.
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    Image of arsenio3d arsenio3d
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    Jesus titty fucking christ!

    Sometimes i think they say stuff like this to get attention, the sad thing is that, this is most definitely not the case :(
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    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples

    I'd laugh if this ever happens.
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    Image of zombie_batch zombie_batch
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    its called FAIR USE
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    Image of St3v3 St3v3
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    Since this is a perfect opportunity to do it: Go fuck Yourself RIAA!
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    09/17/09

    @St3v3:

    This post has absolutely NOTHING to do with the RIAA.
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    Image of St3v3 St3v3
    09/17/09

    @d_r_e: No shit... but fuck them anyway because they suck.
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    My sister is a musician and from what I've learned from her, apparently any 30 sec or less clip of music is able to be used free anywhere. If you listen to MTV, they often use just a 29 sec clip of a song for just that reason.
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    09/17/09

    @The Lab: YES, this is correct. I have sat in on several RIAA and ASCAP panels in Nashville and this has always been the case.
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    Image of nikko1221 nikko1221
    09/17/09

    @The Lab: So The Beatles' "Her Majesty" can be downloaded free because it's only 23 seconds long?
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    09/17/09

    @nikko1221: There is only one way to know for sure: you need to start distributing the song for free. Then when you are in court, you can always say you were following the legal advice of someone named "The Lab" that you met in a comments section of a consumer electronics blog. That should be a solid defense.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    Obviously, it will never happen that royalties will be paid for listening to 30 second samples on iTunes, or that the samples will be removed. That's a red herring and ridiculous.

    As is their "serious" proposal that performance royalties be paid for private downloads.

    Thing is, they *do* get it. ASCAP and BMI are not the RIAA.

    When almost all recorded music is pirated rather than bought, this is part of a larger, longer strategy to tax content at the ISP and distribute proportionally to artists, songwriters, and publishers.
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    Image of Moe Fiathug Moe Fiathug
    09/17/09

    @frigg: So they think that making the legitimate music buyers foot that bill is the solution? I've spend over $300 at the Itunes store and I guarantee I would stop using it if I had to pay to hear a clip.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    09/17/09

    @Moe Fiathug: You'll never have to pay to hear a clip. It will *never* happen.
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    Image of BertLimpet BertLimpet
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    I am concerned about the language used in this article, where do I file a notice of complaint?

    Dear music industry: go xxxx yourself.
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    09/17/09

    @BertLimpet: Dear BertLimpet: go xxxx yourself!
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    Image of Geisrud Geisrud
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    Perhaps Apple should play the game and decide to NOT have the 30-sec samples.
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    Image of Bertone77 Bertone77
    09/17/09

    @Geisrud: Hear! Hear! This is a brilliant idea, see how many songs sell without a preview. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
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    Image of RainyDayInterns RainyDayInterns
    09/17/09

    In reply to Music Industry Wants Royalties From iTunes 30 Second Samples
    Actually...APPLE should be paid every time someone plays a 30-sec clip.

    Apple provides the store that draws the traffic. They should demand a fee from the music industry for advertising their wares.
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