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    Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?

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    Image of EBone EBone
    11/09/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    Calling Captain Stan Marsh! #boats
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    11/09/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    Wouldnt "radar-deflecting paint" be the opposite of stealth? Just wondering..... #boats
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    Crashproof promoted this comment chris.f was starred chris.f was unstarred
    Image of Crashproof Crashproof
    11/09/09

    @chris.f: The idea is to DEflect, rather than REflect. If the signal bounces elsewhere instead of straight back, the receiver doesn't see it. #boats
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    Image of scubasteve03 scubasteve03
    11/09/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    Serious question here... What can they actually do besides pull up to the whalers and politely ask them to stop? I think it's a great concept, but I don't know what this accomplishes. #boats
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    Image of Hobolicious Hobolicious
    11/09/09

    @scubasteve03: They're not particularly polite. They've rammed whaling vessels a number of times and claim to have sunk ten of them.
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    Image of Shamoononon:  I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/09/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    I'll only find this interesting if they mistake a French Navy boat for Japanese whalers. #boats
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    Image of LindsayJoy's MBP is into S+M LindsayJoy's MBP is into S+M
    11/09/09

    @Shamoononon: I shave my legs.:

    You have your star! All is RIGHT in the world!

    ---------------For my gal------------------
    Oh my God Becky, Look at her butt, it is SO Big. She looks likes one of those rap guys girlfriends. Who understands those RAP guys?

    My Anaconda DON'T WANT NONE UNLESS YOU GOT BUNS HUN!

    Ok back to the article:

    As far as the ship, that looks pretty awesome. I wish I had me one of those! Besides, I only get sea-sick above the water, not below. And I like the underwater view better as well!
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    Image of Thangka Thangka
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    Guy also has one of the largest private yachts in the world.

    Shit like this raises Socialist hackles on my back. #larryellison
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    Image of pdok pdok
    11/08/09

    @Thangka: Who do you think got paid the $10 million it took to make that mast, or the whole yacht? That money pays a lot of wages down the line.

    It's kind of like the current rant against private jet ownership. That kind of money is made to be spent, and it goes back into the pockets of a lot of people working for a living in the form of salary. #larryellison
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    Thangka promoted this comment pdok was starred pdok was unstarred
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    11/08/09

    @pdok: The egregious disparity of wealth is what raises my "socialist hackles." Of course there's a trail of money left in his wake (hah, pun fun). #larryellison
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    Image of ludwigk ludwigk
    11/09/09

    @pdok: No, the problem with private jet ownership is that it is essentially subsidized by regular fliers, commercial airlines, tax allowances, and dodgy accounting, etc. such that private jet fliers do not bear the true costs of their usage. That, and trickle down economic theories simply do not work.

    But, I don't begrudge Ellison his $10M yacht masts. Hell, he's one of the fun billionaires, and I'd keep him around just for the lulz. It's those *boring* billionaires, the ones who are snorting gold dust and crack cocaine off of an 18-year old's ass, then wiping their nose off on another 18-year old's ass, and not telling me about it. They fail to amuse me one bit. Who needs 'em? #larryellison
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    11/09/09

    @ludwigk: My comment wasn't about the economics of jet ownership, but about the "rant" against it. There are many hands in the till, obviously, which is true of sports teams, brothels, or your choice of money-making ventures.

    My perception is that people react to the indulgence of the rich with a mixture of disgust and envy, preventing an objective look at what their money does in the economy.

    I'm not going to debate economics (I'd lose), however it's fair to say that with the government's perpetual orgy of spending, any trickling down is probably coming from an orifice best unnamed. #larryellison
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    Image of fastm3driver fastm3driver
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    And from a engineering perspective: If the mast broke, why would you want to put another one of the same type back on the boat? #larryellison
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    Image of bobofish bobofish
    11/08/09

    @fastm3driver: Super high performan.ce stuff breaks all the time. Stuff like that is not usually built for durability, but pure performance.

    We're not talking about your run of the mill bamboo or wood mast lovingly goldplated by virgins. Rather, it's going to be a hand built composite mast where every single inch of it is designed for optimal performance.

    A formula 1 car can cost a good 15 million. The handbuilt engine, about $8mill worth, is good for maximum two races and then needs to be scrapped. Ferrari could build it to last 15 races, but then it wouldn't get the revs and power that they need to win a race.

    Often performance and durability are on opposite ends of a design scale. For a racing team on the ground or in the water, it's an art to figure out where the balance between the two is for any given application. #larryellison
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    Image of fastm3driver fastm3driver
    11/08/09

    @bobofish: If a part breaks in F1 they improve on it before making another one. Do you think they designed the mast to last one run?
    I get your point though. I'm a M.E., a F1 fan and I grew up in Newport RI. :) #larryellison
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    Image of ludwigk ludwigk
    11/09/09

    @bobofish: I can squint really hard and accept your argument with regard to F1 cars, where performance = speed and power, but how is this germane to the America's Cup? What sort of race is this? #larryellison
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    Image of bobofish bobofish
    11/09/09

    @ludwigk: If I squint really hard, I can see Wikipedia from my house.

    There you will find exactly what kind of a race it is.

    Just because a race is one on one does not mean it's any less of a race.

    Going back to the F1 analogy, a lot of people would gladly eat their livers to have seen Ayrton Senna vs. Schumacher head to head, or even more recently Alonso and Schumacher one on one with nobody else on the track.

    Come to think of it, the F1 analogy to America's Cup isn't bad. Both are as much fundraising and organisational efforts as they are actual racing. Maybe that's fair or maybe not, but it is what it is and people are obsessed about both sports. #larryellison
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    Image of ludwigk ludwigk
    11/09/09

    @bobofish: Nope. Wikipedia did NOT contain the substantive information about the race sufficient to establish that performance would be a much higher priority than durability. #larryellison
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    Yeah, that's real fine expensive gear you brought out here, Mr. Ellison. 'Course I don't know what that bastard shark's gonna do with it, might eat it I suppose. Seen one eat a rockin' chair one time. #larryellison
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    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    Yeah, Ellison's spot-on when he said that it was a "minor setback." Those professional racers have pit crews loaded with replacement parts at every single port of call they make, every leg of every race. A broken mast will kill their chances of winning a leg, but those two reserves are waiting quietly for the Oracle boat to pull into harbor.

    You want to see some catastrophic yacht racing damage? Check out some of the footage of this year's Volvo Ocean Race. Nothin' like replacing an exploded rudder, in the middle of a freezing ocean, getting dunked in the drink!

    [www.volvooceanrace.org] #larryellison
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    Image of Curves Curves
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    I can hear the sound of that snapping mast in my soul. Gorgeous craft. #larryellison
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    Image of ridgecity ridgecity
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    What materials does that mast have to use to cost $10,000,000?

    I think these guys are getting ripped-offs... #larryellison
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    Image of Darksider1972 Darksider1972
    11/08/09

    @ridgecity: Considering how huge that thing is and it's made of completely Carbon Fiber, Price sounds about right.. #larryellison
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    Image of njdevil njdevil
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    For a lot less than $10 million I would build a boat made out of strippers and cocaine, powered by the Pope's piss and shaped like nunchucks. #larryellison
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    Image of Mazzle Mazzle
    11/08/09

    @njdevil: Chuck Norris called, he wants his blueprints back #larryellison
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    11/08/09

    In reply to Anyone Have a Spare $10 Million Racing Yacht Mast Lying Around?
    Ten dollars for a mast? Completely unreasonable! #larryellison
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    Image of Jack Loftus Jack Loftus
    11/08/09

    @Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: No kidding. Unfortunately, it's $10 million, and I'm an idiot :-) #larryellison
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    11/08/09

    @Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: I bought some $10 mast the other day. The guy had some in the back of a white van and was telling me it was a killer deal. I now have five and no idea what to do with them. I guess if the going rate on them is $10 million, I could sell a few of them. #larryellison
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/08/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    I don't know a ton about stealth technology but I would bet there are requirements beyond "black paint" and "looking cool". #boats
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    Image of FritzLaurel FritzLaurel
    11/08/09

    @The Lab: It's "flat" black paint. Duh. #boats
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    Nathan Obbards promoted this comment FritzLaurel was starred FritzLaurel was unstarred
    Image of Hobolicious Hobolicious
    11/09/09

    @The Lab: From the article, it's apparently RADAR DEFLECTING matte black paint.

    So they'll be totally invisible! Until they get harpooned.

    Kinda like your little cousin who thinks wearing camouflage means no one can see him. #boats
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    Image of Thangka Thangka
    11/08/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    I would imagine the Earthrace is going to be deployed as a tracking vessel. In past seasons, keeping up with the whaling vessels has always been a problem for the Steve Irwin. As has staying at sea for as long as they'd like: They have to leave the processing vessel if they are low on fuel and supplies. So Earthrace could be very useful to the Sea Shepherds simply by keeping tabs on the locations of the whaling vessels when the Steve Irwin can't keep up or isn't able to be there.

    But then there is the fact that Earthrace is a composite hull. The minute ice enters the equation, Earthrace is out of the equation.

    It looks cool though. Maybe it will scare the Japanese away. It reallly lookalike a Batboat with the new paint. #boats
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    Image of spider2544 spider2544
    11/08/09

    @Thangka: my problem is that ice pops up at anytime down there... and their retarted captin loves putting peoples lives at risk for no reason.

    I gotta feeling the people who man this boat in those cold waters will be taking a brisk dip in no time flat. #boats
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    Thangka promoted this comment spider2544 was starred spider2544 was unstarred
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    11/08/09

    @spider2544: I read an interview with Paul Watson somewheres, and he said something to the effect of not wanting professional mariners because they wouldn't do what he wanted. And as a former maritime academy cadet, it irked the everloving shit out of me.

    What he is basically saying is that he wants people ignorant to the dangers they are facing. The first line of a survival at sea book that most maritime cadets are assigned reads "Only fools do not fear the sea." From what I sea, looks like they got a ship full o, and probably a long backlist waiting to get on board.

    But I think Earthrace is probably going to be skippered by a much more cautious individual. At least I hope so. #boats
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    11/08/09

    @Thangka: you know, I always wondered why they didn't find people with more experience to crew the ships. that makes sense now.

    from watching the show the people out there have no real fear for the situation they are in, and just how dangerous open sea is... much less open arctic seas moving dangerously close to whaling vessels. #boats
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    11/08/09

    In reply to Matte Black Earthrace Power Boat Hunts Those Who Hunt Whales
    When need Stan Marsh leading this expedition. #boats
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