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    Image of fuzzymuffins fuzzymuffins
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    three lethal weapons from 6th grade:

    1. make blow darts out of sewing pins. wrap thread at the end and cut for the feather. blow out of pen housings.

    2. using rulers as a fulcrum to emed pushpins into the ceiling.

    3. untwist paperclips into a hook and launch them via rubber bands.
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    Image of libelle47 libelle47
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    I developed a similar weapon for hunting the evil katydids that eat my wife's roses in the garden. I'm too slow to get 'em myself, but my mighty bamboo-skewer-firing crossbow is mighty effective.
    Strap on a cheap laser pointer, and you can play "Enemy at the Gates" to your heart's content.
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    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    That's one packet of xacto blades away from a lawsuit.
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    Image of Ninety-9 Ninety-9
    12/09/09

    In reply to Books, and the iTunes Problem
    I'd say the price is *somewhat* fair for what you're getting. Digital delivery means, once the text is edited and converted to e-book format, there's pretty much nothing further to do than make money.

    No publication or production costs, no shipping, no wholesale market. Straight from the publisher to the reader.

    To add to that, the reader is also getting a lot less. You can't collect or sell a rare e-book, you can't lend an e-book to a friend, you can't rent an ebook for free from a library, you can't finish reading it and then sell it at a garage sale.

    The great thing about physical media is that I have more freedom of doing what I want when I'm done with it or I'm sick of it. I can hand down or sell CDs, Movies, books. Or from the other perspective, I can buy used or receive a hand-me-down. Can't do that (legally) with iTunes.

    To me, MP3/e-book downloads have always been like the pay-per-view business model, except you're paying full price.
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    Image of Alex Larzelere Alex Larzelere
    12/09/09

    @Ninety-9: Minor note, you can rent ebooks for free from the library. At least my library system does
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    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Alex Larzelere was starred Alex Larzelere was unstarred
    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    12/09/09

    @Ninety-9: Some misses. Yes you can lend an eBook (though limited to once currently - Nook). And yes, you can get eBooks from the library: [ebooks.nypl.org]

    Totally agree that the re-sale or transfer potential is the nail in the coffin for their model. It turns an "own it" business model into strictly a "rent it" model, and that's unacceptable to me.

    Unless this gets fixed, the library model is our only hope...
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    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment brianmi40 was starred brianmi40 was unstarred
    Image of berribrand berribrand
    12/09/09

    @Ninety-9: You can rent ebooks for free from libraries. I do it all the time on my Sony. Sure, the selection isn't that great, but I can always find something worthwhile to read.
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    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment berribrand was starred berribrand was unstarred
    Image of ross9999 ross9999
    12/10/09

    @Ninety-9:

    #ebooks
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    Image of Ninety-9 Ninety-9
    12/10/09

    @ross9999: Hmmm, I wasn't aware the libraries have caught up with technology. If that's the case, how do you define "Renting?" I don't expect they need me to "return" it, since they probably retain the original file. In addition, they'd never run out of a particular book because someone else has it checked out.

    If that's the case, then, why buy it? Why be married to a copy of a book you're only going to read once, maybe twice? I understand, I can eat my words, because I could say the same thing about libraries vs. physical books. But physical books still have much, much more value, as far as saving, collecting, sharing, putting on a shelf to make people think you're intellectual.

    And to all, I do take back the full price comment, I do know it's a reduced price, but you're still "paying" for ownership when you download it from amazon. I'd rather pay $2.99 to read it once and have it expire after 2 months, then pay $10 and be married to a piece of information for the rest of my life. When I say it's like Pay per view except you're paying full price, this is what I mean. They did reduce the cost, since you're eliminating ink and paper, but you're still 'paying to own' something you can never really 'own.'
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    12/10/09

    Sorry, one more thing to add.

    While we're talking about iTunes and other online music stores, it seems to me that even with variable pricing, the cost of downloading music IS the same as purchasing the CD.
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    Image of fuchikoma‮ fuchikoma‮
    12/09/09

    In reply to Aluratek's $179 LCD-Based Libre eBook Reader Goes Cheap
    It's funny that when I saw "Libre" I thought "Librie" (Sony's first reader) but now that I double-check the Librie, this looks a lot closer to a PRS-505 - menus and all.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    I'm thinking this would be a great weapon for L.A.I.R.E.
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    Image of Mikestan Mikestan
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    Death by pencil
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/09/09

    In reply to Books, and the iTunes Problem
    Here's what chaps my ass about e-books: I have to re-buy, at full price, digital versions of books I already own in print form. Music services like iTunes, on the other hand, allow you to upload music you already own into your library, including album artwork, etc.

    I understand; music is already digitized, so no one had to do any extra work to crank out a digital copy. Books are paper, and they take work to digitize. There should, however, be some sort of acknowledgement that I own the print copy already, like a reduced-price digital version.
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    Edited by Segador at 12/09/09 2:28 PM Segador was starred Segador was unstarred
    Image of spookyu spookyu
    12/09/09

    @Segador: Buy a scanner, start turning those bad boy into PDFs. Have at it.
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/09/09

    @spookyu: Two digital cameras and a stand, is a much faster way of doing this.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/09/09

    @spookyu: I'll readily admit that it takes work to make a digital version of a book, and that work has value. I'll pay it, just at a reduced rate. Publishers don't need to recoup the same costs from me twice.
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    Image of devwild devwild
    12/09/09

    @Segador: A small handful of books come with the digital copy on CD... the Honor Harington sci-fi series used to come with not only the ebook for the book you bought, but every book in the series and the spin-offs... which was pure awesome, great way to jump into a series in the middle.

    If more publishers did this, or provided a code you could use to download the kindle or ereader version, I would actually buy a lot more physical books, because I like to read ebooks on the go, but I also like having the hard copy for posterity.
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    Segador promoted this comment devwild was starred devwild was unstarred
    Image of Segador Segador
    12/09/09

    @devwild: Agreed. A Digital Copy Included on the cover would mean that I'd buy the more expensive print version as opposed to the digital-only copy.
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    Image of smith186 smith186
    12/09/09

    @Segador: The problem is that you've got it backwards. iTunes just allows your library to contain digital copies of music you provide them in addition to the music you buy from their store. But iTunes will not let you scan the UPC code of a cassette you bought in 1983 and download a digital version - you'd have to re-purchase them. It would be nice, but I don't think it's a very realistic request.

    Any eBook reader can display any number of text formats though, if you can provide them.

    On that note, eBook readers do put public domain works on the same standing as published novels. It's very nice to get copies of all the classics for free, instead of having to pay a publisher for printing a hard copy.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/09/09

    @Segador: I've always felt that undapants, as Jesus likes to say it, that are too tight chap my bum more so than not getting a digital copy of a book when I purchase the hard copy.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/09/09

    @smith186: Well stated. I'd still like the option to receive a digital copy of new books that I purchase today. I don't expect free digital copies of books I check out of the library, or books from 20 years ago.
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    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    12/09/09

    @thechansen: not without a lot of complicated setup and then it would still be a race and potentially more involved afterwards. I bought a $35 package that I scanned a half page size book with on a flat bed scanner. Despite it being 300 pages, there was no need to cut it apart. It even can adjust for the curvature of the binding (try that with your cameras). I scanned them 2 up, it auto-numbered, auto-scaled, auto-cropped, auto-footered with left/right alternating footers and it turned the pages into image files which I could then tweak or even rotate quickly paging through all them and then after setting a couple further options with one button turned it into a PDF (or ePub...). They go in at the speed of your flat page scanner.

    With two cameras, even if you get them and keep them well aligned, you need something like clear glass to cover and flatten them and good lighting that will not be off color in rendering (i.e. not incandescent or flourescent...), and then you end up with file numbering that's in two groups and no means to smoothly put it all together.

    Best $35 I ever spent.
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/09/09

    @brianmi40: [bkrpr.org] pretty much what I do
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    Image of twig05 twig05
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    i think i just found out what i am doing for the next 15 minutes
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    Seems like a bad design to me; the pen is placed to close to the back of the unit, which reduces the energy applied from the rubber bands to just the first 1/3rd. Move the pen closer to the end or even over the end so that only the last 1/4 of the pen is on the tiller/stock, and it'll poke a lot more eyes out.
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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    12/09/09

    In reply to Books, and the iTunes Problem
    To compare book-buying habits to those of movies or music is folly. The publishing industry has never fostered the "you need to go get it immediately" mentality among the American public. In fact, only three things come to mind that are pushed in that fashion:
    1- Twilight
    2- Harry Potter
    3- whatever nonsense Oprah's pushing down the gullets of middle-aged housewives
    That's it.

    I'd also add that you can argue they are treating e-books like paperbacks.
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/09/09

    @DennyCrane: Completely agree, but I would hardly call The Road nonsense though.

    Also: Dan Brown, the Michael Bay of authors. Actually that is too kind. He is more like the Uwe Boll of authors.
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    Edited by thechansen at 12/09/09 2:20 PM thechansen was starred thechansen was unstarred
    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/09/09

    @thechansen: Except he's made large amounts of dough from his books. I do agree that his writing follows a formula, but Uwe Boll has lost lots of dough on his movies if I recall my bored Wikipedia surfing correctly.

    I for one think we should just call Danny boy's formula the "Da Vinci Code".

    /SPLAT

    That was the sound of my pathetic pun falling flat on its face.
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/09/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: There is merit to Michael Bay however. It is fun and stupid. Dan Brown is snore worthy, stupid, and contrived.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/09/09

    @thechansen: I totally agree on Michael Bay. I'm not a Transformers canonical purist and I found Transformers 2 to be pretty to watch and could write off the cheesy dialogue and story to the movie being targeted at a teenage audience.

    Shoot me for being a shallow sellout all you want but I knew what I was getting into. And yes by pretty I meant Miss Fox, not just the FX.
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/09/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: I will watch what ever that mutant thumb goddess appears in.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    It's all fun and games until someone files a Workers' Comp claim.
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    Image of En0s1 En0s1
    12/09/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: Then it's overtime for lawyers!
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/09/09

    @En0s1: Only contract attorneys get OT. And the job market is so bad, they're not getting OT any more either.

    Personally, I'm salaried. As long as I hit my hours, I'm golden.
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    Image of En0s1 En0s1
    12/09/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: good to know my friend. good to know.
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/09/09

    In reply to Books, and the iTunes Problem
    Fact is the publishing industry is bloated and lazy just like the music industry. This will be similar to the litmus test that rocked the music industry. Bands that people respect and enjoy will prosper, up coming indie bands will gain huge amounts of exposure through file sharing and build a solid online following... Lady Gaga will have most of her shit torrented and disappear slowly. Similarly, that author that everyone loves and respects will continue to sell books, Sarah Palin will have her shitty and terrible book torrented and mocked. Bring it on folks, its the open marketplace...if its worth it, it'll be purchased.
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    Image of Bandit Bandit
    12/09/09

    @TonyWonder: One main difference is that portable music and movies or TV have always relied on a powered technology. Record players, tape players, CD players, TVs and movie theaters. Not so for books; print on paper and it's always there when you want it, no need for any technology. I think that's a major difference. Music and video lend themselves to digitized formats. Books, less so.
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/10/09

    @Bandit: Good point... I agree
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    Image of Curves Curves
    12/09/09

    In reply to How to Build a Pencil Crossbow
    C'mon you pacifists. Sharpen the pencils and make it a LOT more fun.
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    Image of four12 four12
    12/09/09

    @Curves: Glue a thumbtack to the blunt end with one small piece of glue paste.

    When it hits, the thumbtack will separate from the pencil and become lodged in the target's skin and require manual removal.
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    Curves promoted this comment Edited by four12 at 12/09/09 3:24 PM four12 was starred four12 was unstarred
    Image of Curves Curves
    12/09/09

    @four12: Wow. Heart click for a devious mind.
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    01:40 AM

    @Curves: Thanks for the heart. My misspent youth will pay off one of these days.
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    12/09/09

    In reply to Books, and the iTunes Problem
    I won't buy a book at the Reader Store (the Sony eBook Store), unless it is under $14.00, which seems like an arbitrary number but there is some wacky prices on there. I recently paid $11.20 for Wake Up, Sir by Jonathan Ames. Prices seem to dropping on the Sony store to compete with Amazon/B&N. I have no issue buying a book for prices over $20 for a hardcover, and I would pay the same for a paperback as I would for an eBook.

    I feel authors tend to get shafted by publishers even harder than musicians by record labels. On the average book that is simply released by a publisher with no marketing push, signing tour, etc. you are lucky to get a 100k copy printing, and even luckier if you manage to sell all of those. The ability to self publish on Amazon, iTunes, and other stores will be a great boost to the financial return that authors see. You don't get advances, and zero marketing (how many books actually get marketing??) but at least you are getting a better cut.
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