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    Image of jinushaun jinushaun
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    +1 Chrome is now my default OSX browser. FF crashes 20 times a day (no joke) and Safari has no power features.
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    Image of awperk awperk
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    dear god, why do so many people still use IE. it actually breaks my heart to see that high percentage still. whenever i help somebody with computer problems, i make sure i don't leave unless they have firefox on their computer
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    Image of Him Him
    12/15/09

    @awperk: Lots of people who work from home require IE to do their jobs, or their jobs don't want them using anything other than IE.
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    Image of PregoNation PregoNation
    12/15/09

    @Him: Yeah, IT departments are generally very stubborn when it comes to standards. Here at CA, we use IE6 to accommodate SAP.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    12/15/09

    @Him: Also, many people don't know about IETab in Firefox and Chrome dev.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/15/09

    @awperk: The only time I use IE is at work. No other option you see? Unfortunately, I spend too much time at work.
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    Image of Shawn Barney Shawn Barney
    12/15/09

    @Nathan Obbards: Yeah; its annoying where I work where IE is the defacto browser for intranet use at work. Firefox for some reason never works :S. I have never used a computer that lagged so much after 5 tabs are opened
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    Image of LaraPandion I LaraPandion I
    12/15/09

    @PregoNation: As one of those people that force IE down everyone's throats at work, it isn't just compatibility with apps (There are numerous apps that only support IE6), but it is also the ability to control the browser of thousands of users easily with group policy.

    Once users are allowed to install Firefox or Chrome, it becomes a much more difficult environment to control, and corporate america wants control. It isn't just because they are evil bastards though, it is also that they want to control behavior of employees in regards to the web to prevent lawsuits from inappropriate use.
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    Image of Akio_Morita Akio_Morita
    12/15/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Not only am I stuck with ie at work...it is ie freaking 6.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/15/09

    @Akio_Morita: Same here. Lack of tabbed browsing is like torture in Guantanamo bay.
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    Image of PregoNation PregoNation
    12/16/09

    @LaraPandion I: Yeah, I know, I was one of the people that 'force' that onto others as well, at several past jobs. Only in our case, it was for application compatibility, which is one of the reasons I mentioned that. I typically don't prefer to control browsers over group policy - too sloppy.
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    Image of PregoNation PregoNation
    12/16/09

    @LaraPandion I: However if I liked the person I usually gave them Firefox with a IE rendering plug-in. :)
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    Image of arougthopher arougthopher
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    This has nothing to do with a supposed "Google-Apple" war, unless all of Chrome's marketshare came from Safari, which I doubt it did. This is more a ware of Google-MS, since that is likely where the marketshare came from.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    12/15/09

    @arougthopher: I know a few people who switched to Chrome from Safari on their Macs. In general I agree with you, but they are taking market share from people with Safari on Macs and Windows machines.
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    chrome has been amazing for me under SL...safari has always been shit especially under SL... I couldn't get over the constant beachballing with Sarafi...enter facebook password beachball...click profile...beachball..... etc just embarassing...
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    12/15/09

    @TonyWonder: It does that on all computers? Now I feel better when my hackintoshed netbook does that.
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    Image of IUHoos IUHoos
    12/15/09

    @TonyWonder: Ive always called it the pinwheel of death.
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/15/09

    @IUHoos: i got beachball from the Giz community...i take no credit for it...
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    12/15/09

    @IUHoos: I've always called it the spinny beachball of doom.
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    Image of usa1 usa1
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    Still surprised IE is so high. People are so used to the defaults, it's amazing.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/15/09

    @usa1: I don't really use IE except at work, but for so many people the difference between IE and other browsers isn't noticeable. Most people don't push their bandwidth as hard as geeks, or end up on sites that try to exploit security holes as often as geeks.

    Why bother to change from the default if your browsing is too low key and boring to notice the difference?
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/15/09

    @usa1: Like I said above....
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    Image of Xagest Xagest
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    I wonder if the Chrome OS counts towards that number
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    Image of Gaucho85 Gaucho85
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    I'll wait until google releases their army of T-1000s before I say that the "war is getting real"
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    Image of dallasmay dallasmay
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    I don't think Apple cares about Google Chrome. Apple just cares that the web and web applications work correctly, and best, on a Mac. They made safari because MS IE for Mac sucked. That's actually the same reason Apple made the original iTunes, iPod, and iTunes Store too. They didn't have plans to take over the world, they just wanted to make sure they had a quality music service for their computers.

    If Google or Firefox wants to make a quality web browser for the Mac, Apple is not going to stop them. Why would they?
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    Image of PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    I'm actually quite surprised Firefox is catching up to Internet Explorer so quickly. Most business computers are still IE only and most of the people I know who don't know much about computers tend to just use IE because that's what they are used to. Some haven't even heard of Firefox.
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    Image of bagellord bagellord
    12/15/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: We've actually had to switch out accounting department to using Firefox because the new web based billing system (from the government) doesn't work well with IE.
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    Image of yantelope yantelope
    12/15/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Unless those businesses employees run Firefox portable without their knowledge *evil grin
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/15/09

    @yantelope: Or manage to get local admin rights.....just so that the apps work right....sometimes the perks of engineering do pay off...
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    OHHH snap!!!
    Suck on that 0.03%, Safari.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment Edited by FriarNurgle at 12/15/09 1:04 PM FriarNurgle was starred FriarNurgle was unstarred
    Image of BIGE1312 BIGE1312
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    Chrome is so awesome! It's the best internet browser available. All of you IE7-8 users do yourself a favor and download Google Chrome. You'll actually look forward to your internet experiences.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    I like Chrome for Mac a great deal, but one thing I've discovered is that it takes a significant hit on my MBP's battery when surfing, especially if I open tabs. Chrome runs each tab like a separate application, which is part of how it doesn't allow a single tab to crash the whole thing, but the downside is that it becomes a serious resource hog if you surf like me and have a few tabs for different things you shuffle between. Other than that, I'd say Chrome is the best, and has replaced all my browsers on Windows, though I miss certain add-ons I enjoy with Firefox.
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    Image of Nitesh Singh Nitesh Singh
    12/15/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Not so sure about that, one of Anandtech's articles showed battery life by browser, and Safari came out last. Firefox plus Adblock and Noscript came out first.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    @Nitesh Singh: Was this on both systems? Firefox for Mac sucks more memory and kicks my processors more than Safari does.
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    Image of SysRq SysRq
    12/15/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Yeah, while I love Chrome on Windows, I've been dismayed to learn that it's still not great on OS X. I gave up on Firefox the day I bought my MBP. Firefox for Mac is just dreadful. So I'm sticking with Safari.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    @SysRq: I was actually happy with Firefox for a while, but after this recent update, the intermittent freezing has become a big turnoff.
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    Image of Nitesh Singh Nitesh Singh
    12/15/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: It was on three windows systems (and AMD system, an Intel system, and a netbook with Atom). I guess Safari for Mac might be better on battery life, just as Itunes for Mac sucks considerably less than for Windows.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    @Nitesh Singh: Yeah. Safari and iTunes are obviously fish out of water on Windows, but on Mac they run super optimized, so I'd be surprised if someone created a browser or media player, other than VLC, that runs better than the defaults.
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    Image of Nitesh Singh Nitesh Singh
    12/16/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: You should try Camino instead of Firefox. Both are by Mozilla, but unlike Firefox, Camino was programmed from scratch to be more optimal for macOS. It's the same operating system cosmetically, but it runs a LOT faster, and is a massive improvement.
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    Image of PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    I'm not surprised, the Safari market share reflect the Mac userbase. I don't think anyone runs Safari on a PC (do they?)
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    Image of Ninety-9 Ninety-9
    12/15/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: I wonder how many mac people run firefox or something else.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    Firefox: "Hey, you guys! Man, you look like ants from all the way up here! Wheee!!"

    IE: "FE FI FO FUM."
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    Image of Twanzio Twanzio
    12/15/09

    In reply to Chrome Beats Safari
    That big blue bar reminds me of something....
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/15/09

    @Twanzio: Please, have a little more respect for Dr. Manhattan. Not that he's concerned with such pedestrian concepts as shame and modesty.
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