@UnderLoK: Also, unless you work in IT, you probably wouldn't see them anyway since they primarially make enterprise products, not consumer ones. #hpbuys3com
Garmin's products have not advanced much in the last few years. I currently own a 60CSx, a Nuvi (260, I think) and a Edge 705 for my bicycle. The Edge is most similar to the CSx, but has some inherent flaws that make the CSx superior - mainly management of data through MapSource. Natively, only one route can be uploaded to the Edge, you gotta cut and paste to the Edge as a drive to get more. The Nuvi does not allow route uploads, just waypoints, it only allows route creation through those waypoints, which is a bear if you want a specific scenic route. Garmin's Mac software sucks ass - Roadtrip does not allow you to send maps to your device manually, it includes maps automatically for routes you are transferring. All of this is a long explanation of the following: Garmin consumer products have not advanced enough in the last few years, their tech has not gotten any better than the 60CSx, and only when used on Windows.
I am in the market for a Zumo, not only for GPS, but to transmit music via bluetooth, but the pricing is WAY out of line with Nuvi s of similar capabilities (as in 2-3x as expensive for a water resistant version with big buttons).
As far as I'm concerned, I look forward to Google taking the reigns - Garmin is slacking. #googlemaps
@Calzo: Eh not really. I'm not one to short. Too much hassle for me at this point in my life. Thats a day trader thing. I already had money in Google and VZW (who looks like they might have gotten a bit of a bump out of this) so I can't complain too much. #googlemaps
Honestly most GPS Manufacturer have nothing to worry about, Keep in mind Google's Free GPS is not Totally free cause people will need data connection that runs them $30 a month, There's a bunch of phones that already come with Free GPS so i really don't see a reason for everyone on Wall street to start going crazy. #googlemaps
@snitch: and a lot of those phones don't use real gps either, they use a cell tower triangulation to find your position.
I personally wont be trading in my handheld gps device for a smartphone - if you hav eno cell service, the psuedo-gps wont work, and if they use real gps, i bet you they aren't waterproof or drop proof. i can toss my garmin handheld in a lake or river, pull it out and it's perfectly fine. Or drop it from a tree stand or down a cliff - fine (depending on the fall and impact). do this with any smart phone - its either dead from the water or smashed to bits... #googlemaps
@gover57: I guess that really depends on what you do with your GPS. If you're a motorist and use your nav system while driving almost exclusively, things like being waterproof and drop proof are not as great a concern anymore. I just wonder how many people use their GPS mainly if not exclusively for their cars, rather than for navigating on foot or out on open water.
@gover57: But then you're dividing the cost of the data plan between the GPS and everything else you normally do with the phone. Since the phone will be using the data mostly for its telephony functions, the GPS is a more of a bonus. #googlemaps
@gover57: A lot of what phones use cell triangulation? Android 2.0 phones? You know, all zero of those phones that are out now? Look, man. Your other points are good pros for dedicated GPS units. Don't go watering it down by making completely unrelated and pointless arguments. #googlemaps
@gover57: GPS in almost all phones anymore is dedicated GPS not just AGPS. You still may need the data connection to download the map but if these download before (like google maps did) it won't be an issue until you get real lost. #googlemaps
I don't think this will be some grand killer of GPS companies. You'd have to get lots of people who use standalone units to convert over to smartphones and commit to data plans, and I don't think that's an easy sell when a typical GPS unit costs what, $150? $150 one time versus the same amount or more for the phone itself and then $100+/- each month is not a compelling financial argument. #googlemaps
@Jeb_Hoge: No, but people are switching smart phones in droves. It's not as if people will switch to one JUST for navigation, but many who are switching anyway will ditch their PND or not buy one when they may have under other circumstances.
This does, however, sweeten the deal to get a smart phone for people who are on the edge.
@richstovy001: I'd be really interested to see from all four major carriers how many of their individual subscribers have unlimited data plans. I bet the percentage is a lot smaller than most of us (Gizmodo readers, and typically tech-savvy earlier adopters) think. #googlemaps
lol....Considering Navigon exited the hardware business and instead fully focused on software, they must be having the biggest "OH SHIT!" moment right now. #googlemaps
@Thats Dr Bear to You: It is completely plausible this could be a denied app. Apple has "continued to evaluate" the Google Voice app - probably due to the obvious conflict of interest - and at&t sells at&t Navigator as their premiere navigation solution on the device. The same conflicts exist, albeit on a different scale.
Couple that with Apple buying its own map company now and Eric Schmidt leaving the Apple board of directors - "working closely" may not play out. I have my hopes but the picture just isn't as rosy as it used to be. #googlemaps
@Tugsie: Or, you can just use the Trapster app. It's free, uses google maps to navigate in real time, allows you to create routes, and tells you where the po po are. #googlemaps
This is all stupid Meg Whitman's fault. How stupid do you have to be to pay billions for a company that you don't get the rights to their key asset? That's like buying Coke without their secret formula or KFC without the Colonel's secret recipe.
@aek8: Uncle Google-bags moonlights as the god of the sea. The FTC will be examining this relationship after they've finished up with the telcos. They want to know if, between Google running things on the land and Poseidon in the sea, these two are colluding on taking over the entire planet.
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/smokes cigar made from hundred dollar bills and Megan Foxes pubes. #intelantitrust
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You know, for herbal infusing... #hpbuys3com
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My CentOS box is still sporting a 3c905. #hpbuys3com
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As opposed to a 3c509, which will do 100 half, but not 100 full... #hpbuys3com
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I am in the market for a Zumo, not only for GPS, but to transmit music via bluetooth, but the pricing is WAY out of line with Nuvi s of similar capabilities (as in 2-3x as expensive for a water resistant version with big buttons).
As far as I'm concerned, I look forward to Google taking the reigns - Garmin is slacking. #googlemaps
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I personally wont be trading in my handheld gps device for a smartphone - if you hav eno cell service, the psuedo-gps wont work, and if they use real gps, i bet you they aren't waterproof or drop proof. i can toss my garmin handheld in a lake or river, pull it out and it's perfectly fine. Or drop it from a tree stand or down a cliff - fine (depending on the fall and impact). do this with any smart phone - its either dead from the water or smashed to bits... #googlemaps
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@gover57: But then you're dividing the cost of the data plan between the GPS and everything else you normally do with the phone. Since the phone will be using the data mostly for its telephony functions, the GPS is a more of a bonus. #googlemaps
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This does, however, sweeten the deal to get a smart phone for people who are on the edge.
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Come on dude try a little harder... #googlemaps
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Couple that with Apple buying its own map company now and Eric Schmidt leaving the Apple board of directors - "working closely" may not play out. I have my hopes but the picture just isn't as rosy as it used to be. #googlemaps
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@Gordonium: . #googlemaps
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And now that idiot is running for office?
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