• Gizmodo
  • bestmodo
  • lifehacker
  • kotaku
  • Profile logout login

#cameras#relectronicsinccompanyhistoryhtml

Gizmodo

Share Cancel
   
Upload an image | Add an image URL
×

logging in
  • FAQ. Include # before tag:
  • #tips,
  • #dealzmodo,
  • #rumors,
  • #broken,
  • #iphoneapps,
  • #apple,
  • etc.

New York, 8:56 PM
Mon Nov 16
47 posts in the last 24 hours

FR | IT | DE | SP | JP | AU | BR

Gizmodo Team

Tip your editors:
tips@gizmodo.com

Editorial Director:
Brian Lam | Email | Twitter

Editor:
Jason Chen
Email | AIM | Twitter

Features Editor:
Wilson Rothman
Email | Twitter

Senior Contributing Editors:
Jesus Diaz
Email | AIM | Twitter
Mark Wilson, Reviews
Email | AIM | Twitter

Contributing Editors:
Matt Buchanan
Email | AIM | Twitter
Adam Frucci
Email | Twitter
Sean Fallon
Email | Twitter
Jack Loftus
Email | Twitter
John Herrman
Email | Twitter
Dan Nosowitz
Email
Chris Mascari
Email
Danny Allen
Email | Twitter
Rosa Golijan
Email | Twitter
Chris Jacob
Email

Columnist:
Brendan I. Koerner

Interns:
Don Nguyen
Email
Kyle VanHemert
Email

Comment Intern:
Nick Ellenoff | Email

Heroes and Friends

Comment Account Questions:
Comments@gizmodo.com

SUBSCRIBE TO Gizmodo RSS

New: Breaking news and daily top stories via email
9515 Subscribers
Gizmodo
  • Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.

    Dsmvwl  Admin  Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×
    Image of Homerjay is utterly alone. Homerjay is utterly alone.
    08:41 PM

    In reply to Leica M7 Hermes Edition: Your Bank Account Can't Handle This Gorgeousness
    If it had any other name on it my guess is you'd say it was fugly. #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    Homerjay is utterly alone. was starred Homerjay is utterly alone. was unstarred
    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    07:49 PM

    In reply to Leica M7 Hermes Edition: Your Bank Account Can't Handle This Gorgeousness
    Why does a grade 34 bureaucrat get a camera named after him?
     Reply
    Edited by Jrsy Devil's Advocate® at 11/16/09 7:49 PM Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was starred Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was unstarred
    Image of RT100 RT100
    08:03 PM

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: to be fair, he was the representative for earth in Limbo in the olympics #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    Jrsy Devil's Advocate® promoted this comment RT100 was starred RT100 was unstarred
    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    08:07 PM

    @RT100: He's never been able to beat Barbados Slim. #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was starred Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was unstarred
    Image of RT100 RT100
    08:10 PM

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: on the Titanic, he saved the life of the crew by going under the door and pushing the button to open the airlock. He should be a national hero! And they didn't even have to dress up like women and children to get an escape pod... #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    RT100 was starred RT100 was unstarred
    Image of ripfire ripfire
    07:30 PM

    In reply to Leica M7 Hermes Edition: Your Bank Account Can't Handle This Gorgeousness
    I heard it can get you laid in Amsterdam... #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred
    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    07:45 PM

    @ripfire: I heard that it can only be purchased with an AmEx Centurion card... #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    Gordonium was starred Gordonium was unstarred
    Image of P3nnst8r P3nnst8r
    07:46 PM

    @ripfire: You can get your money stolen and not even care! #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    P3nnst8r was starred P3nnst8r was unstarred
    Image of HighOctaneX HighOctaneX
    07:50 PM

    @ripfire: Ummm...A box of skittles can get you laid in Amsterdam. #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    Kaiser-Machead promoted this comment HighOctaneX was starred HighOctaneX was unstarred
    Image of ripfire ripfire
    07:58 PM

    @HighOctaneX: I think a box of skittles will get you vandersexxx. #leicam7hermes
     Reply
    ripfire was starred ripfire was unstarred
    Image of Joe Stoner Joe Stoner
    11/15/09

    In reply to ShutterBuddy Attacks Baby Photo ADD Issue with Simplicity
    I bet this works on adults too. #cameras
     Reply
    Joe Stoner was starred Joe Stoner was unstarred
    Image of AqueousBeef AqueousBeef
    11/15/09

    In reply to ShutterBuddy Attacks Baby Photo ADD Issue with Simplicity
    Or I can cut a hole in a shitty frisbee and cover it with checkered contact paper for a lot cheaper... #cameras
     Reply
    AqueousBeef was starred AqueousBeef was unstarred
    Image of Software_Goddess Software_Goddess
    11/15/09

    In reply to ShutterBuddy Attacks Baby Photo ADD Issue with Simplicity
    Can it make baby smile? Or are we forever plagued by glassy stares. #cameras
     Reply
    Software_Goddess was starred Software_Goddess was unstarred
    Image of Curves Curves
    11/15/09

    @Software_Goddess: I thought those were "gassy" stares. #cameras
     Reply
    Curves was starred Curves was unstarred
    Image of Software_Goddess Software_Goddess
    11/15/09

    @Curves: "That’s not a smile, he has gas."? #cameras
     Reply
    Software_Goddess was starred Software_Goddess was unstarred
    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/15/09

    In reply to Super Expensive, Incredibly Limited Edition Leica M7 Hermes Could See Monday Release
    ... and people complain about the Apple tax. #leica
     Reply
    The Lab was starred The Lab was unstarred
    Image of Scaramanga Scaramanga
    12:40 AM

    @The Lab:

    Its a Hermès tax added in addition to the Leica tax.

    There is not a tangible technical difference between this body and the plain ol' M7.

    Its just a fashion accessory not a tool for photographers at this point.

    For people that would rather look pretty taking pictures then taking pretty pictures. #leica
     Reply
    Scaramanga was starred Scaramanga was unstarred
    Image of RainyDayInterns RainyDayInterns
    11/15/09

    In reply to Super Expensive, Incredibly Limited Edition Leica M7 Hermes Could See Monday Release
    Not everything is for everybody. Nice to, once in a while, see some stuff that is not for the mass market! #leica
     Reply
    RainyDayInterns was starred RainyDayInterns was unstarred
    Image of dragon:ONE dragon:ONE
    11/15/09

    In reply to Super Expensive, Incredibly Limited Edition Leica M7 Hermes Could See Monday Release
    Two questions - who uses film nowadays and where would you develop it? All our local photo developing joints are, well, nonexistant (the drugstore I would NORMALLY go to get prints done just switched to full-on digital only through a crappy kiosk).
     Reply
    Edited by dragon:ONE at 11/15/09 10:14 AM dragon:ONE was starred dragon:ONE was unstarred
    Image of devon.cimini devon.cimini
    11/15/09

    @dragon:ONE: If you are spending $14,000 on a camera, I bet you know a guy.
     Reply
    InsidiousTuna promoted this comment devon.cimini was starred devon.cimini was unstarred
    Image of littleredcorvet littleredcorvet
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: 1: Lots of people.
    2: most CVSs, Walmarts, Walgreens, and Targets if you want crappy prints. There are also places to send your film to be developed fairly inexpensively, such as Dwayne's Photo. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment littleredcorvet was starred littleredcorvet was unstarred
    Image of Jeff Landy Jeff Landy
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: The black and white crowd still loves film - digital can't reproduce the tones you get from the B&W process. Also, film has made a small comeback with the art crowd, mostly in the cheap plastic camera category.

    You get it developed at a local camera shop, or you mail it off to one of the developing houses around the country, or you develop it yourself in your home.

    That being said, anyone purchasing one of these is doing it for collector's reasons. Film cameras are insanely cheap these days. You could get any of the best film cameras ever produced, in mint condition, for less than a few grand. Most of the higher-production cameras (e.g. Nikon as opposed to Hasselblad) don't sell for more than $200. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment Jeff Landy was starred Jeff Landy was unstarred
    Image of SagarikaLumos SagarikaLumos
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: There are some compelling reasons to use film, one of which is completely absent in this case (quality/price ratio is thrown off here). You can get an excellent 35mm camera for just a few dollars (I paid $2 for a Yashica T4 once), and not have to cry if it's damaged. Let a small child use it. The cheap digitals made for kids are barely worth pointing at something.

    There are still 3 different places in my small town to get 1 hour film developing, and a half dozen others who offer 2 day service. I still shoot loads of film despite having excellent digital cameras. Scanning takes extra time, but I can still get better results from 35mm than digital, though I admit that there's better equipment out there than mine.

    While color has gone very digital, you won't find that nearly as many B&W fans use digital. For some reason, B&W photographers still strongly prefer film. I love B&W film, and I develop it myself in my bathroom using about $30 worth of equipment. #leica
     Reply
    SagarikaLumos was starred SagarikaLumos was unstarred
    Image of SagarikaLumos SagarikaLumos
    11/15/09


    @SagarikaLumos: I took this picture just a couple of weeks ago with a camera I paid less than $10 for and a roll of free expired film.

    Long live film! #leica
     Reply
    InsidiousTuna promoted this comment SagarikaLumos was starred SagarikaLumos was unstarred
    Image of DPYu DPYu
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: Film is probably dead among the masses, but there are still a strong group of photography enthusiasts that use film. I actually just placed an order for a 35mm rangefinder, since I'm finding that I enjoy film photos alot more than digital ones. In looking around, it seems like Meijer, Costco, Sam's Club, and Wolf Cameras all still process 35mm film. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment DPYu was starred DPYu was unstarred
    Image of pauloborja pauloborja
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: If you buy this kind of camera I think you would have a personal dev lab. Is part of the fun. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment pauloborja was starred pauloborja was unstarred
    Image of macmartini macmartini
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: people who buy $14,000 camera don't go to drugstores to get the film developed :) it's more of a collectors camera...probably will end up in a showcase in a million dollar home as a conversation piece #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment macmartini was starred macmartini was unstarred
    Image of Sebastian Toth Sebastian Toth
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE:
    For example, i am a leica photographer too. Shooting even commissioned and payed stuff on film .. Developing was never and will never be a problem, since i do it myself ..

    And if you ask my why im shooting on film, i can give you a simple answer: Because my clients want me to .. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment Sebastian Toth was starred Sebastian Toth was unstarred
    Image of Misha Kaplan Misha Kaplan
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: I use film for my photography... especially color because its impossible to get to the same quality in digital and I'm assuming if you're willing to pay $14,000 on a Leica then you either have access to a dark room or are willing to send your film out to be developed #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment Misha Kaplan was starred Misha Kaplan was unstarred
    Image of zanars zanars
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE:

    If you're buying a $14,000 camera - I'm assuming you already have your own darkroom.

    And if not, you wouldn't be getting your film developed at the drugstore - you'd be going to specialty camera shops and telling them how you want it done. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment zanars was starred zanars was unstarred
    Image of TheCrudMan TheCrudMan
    11/15/09


    @SagarikaLumos:

    Nice! #leica
     Reply
    TheCrudMan was starred TheCrudMan was unstarred
    Image of SagarikaLumos SagarikaLumos
    11/15/09

    @TheCrudMan: That shot alone can be used as a great pro-film example. The depth of field control of 35mm film is far more versatile than prosumer digital SLRs with their APS-C size sensors. A digital camera would have far more in focus, which has its place, but it's pretty hard to get this kind of isolation with digital. Non-SLR digitals have tiny sensors and would have far more depth of field. #leica
     Reply
    Jack Loftus promoted this comment SagarikaLumos was starred SagarikaLumos was unstarred
    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/15/09

    @dragon: ONE: I definitely would if I my own darkroom. I love developing photos.

    Sadly I'm also too poor to even consider owning a Leica. #leica
     Reply
    Pessimippopotamus was starred Pessimippopotamus was unstarred
    Image of szrimaging szrimaging
    11:27 AM

    @SagarikaLumos: You skirt the issue there. The issue for depth of field isn't what is recording the light, but the size of the sensor. 16mm film would get about the same dof as APS-C. FF35 sensors get about the same as 35mm. So on and so forth. If you are going to compare the two, compare them for like sized sensors. Besides, digital capture can be done in 4x5, so just think of the dof you could get there. #leica
     Reply
    szrimaging was starred szrimaging was unstarred
    Image of SagarikaLumos SagarikaLumos
    02:07 PM

    @szrimaging: That far outstrips the depth of money that it takes with film. As I said in my initial post, film's advantage right now is in the price/performance ratio, which is bent out of shape by the fact that the Leica in question is $18,000.

    I could compare like sized sensors, but it makes more sense to compare like sized money. FF35 sensor cameras are far above what most people will pay, never mind digital MF. #leica
     Reply
    SagarikaLumos was starred SagarikaLumos was unstarred
    Image of szrimaging szrimaging
    02:18 PM

    @SagarikaLumos: Well, if you shoot a LOT of film, like 5 plus rolls of film per week, and process at a place like A&I, then your price difference is made up in a year or two. Not to mention the cost of scanning the film. In the sort term film is cheaper, in the long term, digital is cheapest.

    Digital MF is really the realm of pros, where you save money, not to mention time, by running the digital.

    And to get the resolution out of film, you would need to drum scan, or other similar scanners. A drum scanner is over 10k last I looked, and pretty sure a company like NancyScans charges a pretty high amount per slide that they scan. Really, cost to performance wise, digital is a bigger bargain now than ever before. #leica
     Reply
    szrimaging was starred szrimaging was unstarred
    Image of Nick Nick
    11/12/09

    In reply to Casio Exilim EX-FS10 Camera Is Also Your Smarmy Golf Pro
    take two things the japanese love and combine them . . . brilliant. i haven't seen marketing this genius since they started selling underroos in vending machines. #casioexilimexfs10
     Reply
    Nick was starred Nick was unstarred
    Image of Odin Odin
    11/12/09

    In reply to Big Shot: Build Your Own Digital Camera
    Those are M&M's.
    I prefer peanut M&M's to the regular kind.
    I prefer smarties to M&M's (but not the peanut kind).
    I have some smarties.
    No camera though. #bigshot
     Reply
    Odin was starred Odin was unstarred
    Image of maven2k maven2k
    11/11/09

    In reply to Big Shot: Build Your Own Digital Camera
    Ohhhh, I so want one of these!!! #bigshot
     Reply
    maven2k was starred maven2k was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    11/11/09

    In reply to Nikon S1000pj Projector Camera Review: Screw You All, I Love This Thing
    Wow! What a low tech stove. #nikons100pj
     Reply
    Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of farcedude farcedude
    11/11/09

    In reply to Nikon S1000pj Projector Camera Review: Screw You All, I Love This Thing
    I think what I'd want instead is a separate pocket projector that I could plug an sd card into (among other inputs) and look at the pictures that way. I think this is one of those areas that two separate devices can do better than one. What I hope this does is move the technology along to where a less expensive (<$100) pocket projecter is a possibility. #nikons100pj
     Reply
    farcedude was starred farcedude was unstarred
    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/10/09

    In reply to Ricoh GXR, Smallest Camera With Interchangable Lenses and Sensors, Coming In December
    You really have to watch the video to understand the concept. This system only seems to make sense if the pairing of a particular sensor to a particular lens had an advantage but I don't see how it would. Why would each lens need its own sensor? You could end up owning 4 lenses and four sensors, an over-investment in sensors, especially considering that inevitable improvements in sensor tech makes your lens obsolete. The more I type, the worse this idea sounds. A better system would allow one to upgrade just the camera's sensor. #ricohgxr
     Reply
    The Lab was starred The Lab was unstarred
    Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

Login

Enter your username and password.

Please enter a username.
Please enter your password.
logging in
Login via Facebook | Sign Up | Forgot Password?

Reset Password

Please enter your email address to have your password reset.

Please enter your email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
requesting password reset

Register

Registering will give you a user profile and the ability to add other users as friends. To become a commenter, however, you need to audition.

Want to know more? Consult the Comment FAQ and legal terms.

Please enter a username.
Please enter a password.
Please confirm your password.
Passwords are not identical.
Please enter a valid email address.
registration sent, waiting for reply

Submit Your Comment

You don't need to login to comment. Just enter your email address below.

See how your address will be displayed in the Comment FAQ.

Please enter a valid email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
logging in

Login with your Facebook or Gizmodo account.

Sign up here.



  • Archives
  • About
  • Advertising
  • Legal
  • Help
  • Report a Bug
  • FAQ
Original material is licensed under a Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution.