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"What we still don't know is what that means: If the original Tegra could decode 1080p video, what can the new one do? Decode 1080p video more enthusiastically?"
It's really not that tough. If the Tegra 1 could decode 1080p video, then the new one can probably do it with lower CPU utilization and power consumption. I'm surprised the writers at Giz weren't able to guess that.
Beyond that, I'm sure Nvidia improved the 3D performance of the chip, and hopefully went for an ARM Cortex A8 CPU instead of ARM 11.
The Tegra is built by NVIDIA, leaving Zune fans to suggest that it delivers industry leading, desktop-gaming type graphics that far exceed the capabilities of industry-standard mobile graphics. However, Tegra isn’t a scaled down version of NVIDIA’s PC graphics GPUs. The Tegra’s CPU/GPU package also uses DDR1 memory, introducing significant real world RAM bandwidth limits no matter how powerful the embedded GPU core is rated to be in theoretical terms.
In contrast, the modern Cortex-A8 used in the iPhone 3GS, Palm Pre, Nokia N900, and Pandora game console represents the latest generation of ARM CPU cores. It also employs a DDR2 memory interface, erasing a serious performance bottleneck hobbling the Zune HD’s Tegra. It’s difficult to make fair and direct comparisons between different generations of technology, but NVIDIA’s own demonstrations of Tegra’s ARM11/integrated graphics show it achieving 35 fps in Quake III. The same software running on Pandora’s Coretex-A8 with SGX GPU core achieves 40-60 fps.
onsense as it simply counts logical blocks common to all embedded SoC parts as “cores.” The CPU in the Tegra is a single ARM11 core. Even if the Tegra did supply multiple CPU cores, the Windows CE kernel used by the Zune HD doesn’t support multi-core SMP so it couldn’t make any use of them. Again, if you’re wondering why Microsoft was able to score the NVIDIA Tegra “before” Apple, it wasn’t due to any mobile industry clout or hardware experience on Microsoft’s end, but rather simply due to the fact that Apple has its own resources for designing and building advanced, state of the art mobile processors, and didn’t need to buy into the desperate hype NVIDIA is using to promote the runner up technology of Apple’s former SoC vendor.
@istuptinosil: that's really interesting. I wonder if Tegra 2 has solved the DDR1 issue and raised the FPS scores. Eventually I suppose that benchmarking phone graphic prowess will become a normal thing to do before buying. I bet that someday we will all be able to "upgrade" our phone GPU's when they become outdated (may be not...pipedream).
@iansilv: You know, surprisingly enough, you don't really hear that kind of stuff here. Engadget has plenty of fan boi commenting but I rarely see it here. I think it has to do with how promoting threads, like what I'm doing right now, and the fact that stars are given out by the editors keeps Gizmodo pretty clean. It also seems that they will ban you easily if you are an idiot, which also helps.
@CommentingpointlesslyisMeh: But, what if you aren't really an idiot, but sometimes you post like one, because you are a stressed out lawschool student? Can I still get a star? :)
@iansilv: Lol. I wasn't calling you an idiot. I have no idea how you can get a star. I got one commenting during a semi-live chat about BD-Live Terminator 4 .
I would love for Google to make a Tegra Android/ChromeOS netbook, throw in a 3g chip, ~8 hours of battery life, and sell 'em at around $200-$300 with free wireless internet, making the money on Android apps and ad sales from the surfing.
@DennyCraneDennyCraneDennyCrane: I guess that would be a direct competitor to ION? Which is also Nvidia. I wonder if Tegra 2 is more powerful than an ION (which I think has an Nvidia 9400m in it).
@CommentingpointlesslyisMeh: Its not a direct competitor with the Ion. Ion is a chipset, a GPU and audio chip. Its main market is as a compliment for Intels Atom.
Tegra is basically an Ion, plus an ARM CPU. It is designed mostly for Phones, PDAs, things like the Zune HD... It could also work as a netbook, but it would be unable to run Windows (well... It will run Windows CE, but not XP/Vista/7).
So, it would be fine for running Android/ChromeOS, since it would be compiled specifically for the Tegra. It would be quite low power thanks to the system on a chip design. And, best of all... my plan would come with free mobile Internet. Woo!
@clR3vv: Yeah, the Tegra is actually the most efficient system on a chip available. It has many different smaller dedicated processors, and only throws powers towards the ones it needs at the moment. Such as the HD Video Encoder or the Decoder.
* ARM 11
* ARM 7
* GPU
* 2D Engine
* HD Video Encoder
* HD Video Decoder
* Audio
* Imaging
"The Zune HD’s battery capacity is 660 mAh, about 16 percent less than the 789 mAh battery in the new iPod touch. Yet the Zune promises a longer run time than the touch for both music and videos."
Ipod Touch Battery life:
Music 30 Hours
Video 6 Hours
I still want a Tegra-based cellphone with a hard gamepad built in (something that looks like the PSPGo) and big name studios developing games for it. I would love that.
@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: Sounds kind of like that nokia phone (I think it was nokia, having a tough time remembering because it was laughed into obscurity).
@zeroprime: Yeah, but that was terrible execution. It still had a shitty cellphone screen, for one, and you had to take out the battery to change games. And the thing was HUGE, by cellphone standards.
And don't forget sidetalking.
@lixiaochenx277: Include a cell-phone radio for online multiplayer and to consolidate my phone into the device, and I'm sold.
Edited by HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. at 12/16/09 3:34 PM
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Emails are so impersonal, and there are so many ways to make them more special. You can give your emails a more personal touch by using smileys or novel punctuation sequences. It doesn't have to be time-consuming, either. Let's take a look at how smileys can really make those ordinary emails more out-of-the-ordinary and playful.
First, there's just the plain smiley (colon, right parenthesis)
:)
Simple and fun. Great as a short finishing symbol after a thought or invitation, and one that almost everyone can understand. Smiles are universal, after all. Let's look at some imaginative noses, just to put some sparkle on that smiley.
Here's a pointy nose, pointing up, using the caret
:^)
Good times. We can try other noses, like the clown nose, for more lighthearted fun
:o)
... and for times that require a more agrarian spring or harvest-time spirit, the pig nose
:@)
It's hard to make gender-appropriate festive smileys, but you can make a great halloween smiley of any nose style by putting a 'less-than-pipe) witch hat on top, like this
<|:^)
As long as we want to play with hats, "greater-than" beards can make a charming addition to the more conventional smiley, shown here with a caret nose
<|:^)>
or maybe a fedora
<]:^)>
or maybe a cowboy hat for a western rodeo touch, but be careful, because it might look like devilish eyebrows if the context isn't quite right
<}:^)>
It's fun when you can put a sexy goatee on your smiley, too, using a right-bracket
<|:^)}
And don't forget the semicolon wink for that cheeky touch!
<|;^)}
Be creative, too. The person that gets your email will appreciate it. Try using a happy-tongue mouth from capital p, to add a saucy text-based raspberry
<|:^P}
That's just a start. Grab some sprinkles and your glue gun and a little fun and spirit and you can make your own smileys for any occasion.
I think she's "talking down" to her audience because most of them have not discovered the internet - and if they have - still haven't got the hang of it.
There's no reason these Pico Projectors shouldn't be able to make a profit in the $100 range.
It's something that the makers know are relatively cheap to make. Few components, small package, light... However, it needs to sell for more because it can...
Brands like COBY & Mintek will certainly pick up on this.
50 lumens is really the minimum, from my experience. As much as it would be nice to have something small like a pico projector, until they get to that level they're just pointless.
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It's really not that tough. If the Tegra 1 could decode 1080p video, then the new one can probably do it with lower CPU utilization and power consumption. I'm surprised the writers at Giz weren't able to guess that.
Beyond that, I'm sure Nvidia improved the 3D performance of the chip, and hopefully went for an ARM Cortex A8 CPU instead of ARM 11.
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In contrast, the modern Cortex-A8 used in the iPhone 3GS, Palm Pre, Nokia N900, and Pandora game console represents the latest generation of ARM CPU cores. It also employs a DDR2 memory interface, erasing a serious performance bottleneck hobbling the Zune HD’s Tegra. It’s difficult to make fair and direct comparisons between different generations of technology, but NVIDIA’s own demonstrations of Tegra’s ARM11/integrated graphics show it achieving 35 fps in Quake III. The same software running on Pandora’s Coretex-A8 with SGX GPU core achieves 40-60 fps.
onsense as it simply counts logical blocks common to all embedded SoC parts as “cores.” The CPU in the Tegra is a single ARM11 core. Even if the Tegra did supply multiple CPU cores, the Windows CE kernel used by the Zune HD doesn’t support multi-core SMP so it couldn’t make any use of them. Again, if you’re wondering why Microsoft was able to score the NVIDIA Tegra “before” Apple, it wasn’t due to any mobile industry clout or hardware experience on Microsoft’s end, but rather simply due to the fact that Apple has its own resources for designing and building advanced, state of the art mobile processors, and didn’t need to buy into the desperate hype NVIDIA is using to promote the runner up technology of Apple’s former SoC vendor.
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There, folks I have set the lower end of the bar for comments on Tegra 2.
and now that I have done this, no one else needs to. Standards can increase from here.
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MAKE IT HAPPEN, GOOGLE. I WANT THIS.
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Tegra is basically an Ion, plus an ARM CPU. It is designed mostly for Phones, PDAs, things like the Zune HD... It could also work as a netbook, but it would be unable to run Windows (well... It will run Windows CE, but not XP/Vista/7).
So, it would be fine for running Android/ChromeOS, since it would be compiled specifically for the Tegra. It would be quite low power thanks to the system on a chip design. And, best of all... my plan would come with free mobile Internet. Woo!
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[apcmag.com]
The eight cores are:
* ARM 11
* ARM 7
* GPU
* 2D Engine
* HD Video Encoder
* HD Video Decoder
* Audio
* Imaging
"The Zune HD’s battery capacity is 660 mAh, about 16 percent less than the 789 mAh battery in the new iPod touch. Yet the Zune promises a longer run time than the touch for both music and videos."
Ipod Touch Battery life:
Music 30 Hours
Video 6 Hours
Zune HD:
Music 33 Hours
HD Video 8.5 Hours
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And don't forget sidetalking.
@lixiaochenx277: Include a cell-phone radio for online multiplayer and to consolidate my phone into the device, and I'm sold.
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First, there's just the plain smiley (colon, right parenthesis)
:)
Simple and fun. Great as a short finishing symbol after a thought or invitation, and one that almost everyone can understand. Smiles are universal, after all. Let's look at some imaginative noses, just to put some sparkle on that smiley.
Here's a pointy nose, pointing up, using the caret
:^)
Good times. We can try other noses, like the clown nose, for more lighthearted fun
:o)
... and for times that require a more agrarian spring or harvest-time spirit, the pig nose
:@)
It's hard to make gender-appropriate festive smileys, but you can make a great halloween smiley of any nose style by putting a 'less-than-pipe) witch hat on top, like this
<|:^)
As long as we want to play with hats, "greater-than" beards can make a charming addition to the more conventional smiley, shown here with a caret nose
<|:^)>
or maybe a fedora
<]:^)>
or maybe a cowboy hat for a western rodeo touch, but be careful, because it might look like devilish eyebrows if the context isn't quite right
<}:^)>
It's fun when you can put a sexy goatee on your smiley, too, using a right-bracket
<|:^)}
And don't forget the semicolon wink for that cheeky touch!
<|;^)}
Be creative, too. The person that gets your email will appreciate it. Try using a happy-tongue mouth from capital p, to add a saucy text-based raspberry
<|:^P}
That's just a start. Grab some sprinkles and your glue gun and a little fun and spirit and you can make your own smileys for any occasion.
Good times.
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It's something that the makers know are relatively cheap to make. Few components, small package, light... However, it needs to sell for more because it can...
Brands like COBY & Mintek will certainly pick up on this.
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