I was upset when Vista came out and the aero subsystem couldn't run on even the newer machines I built for customers without a higher end video card. I'm even a little upset I can't all the aero features on my 5500FX. Don't even get me started on how Vista performs with games running on top of aero...
@p75hmsa: I have to dissagree with your Vista evaluation. I build systems that run the gambit of performance levels. With a dedicated 256 MB video card and 2 gigs of ram all the features run flawlessly. I know that because my laptop has those exact features and Vista does run flawlessly while I'm using any of the Adobe suite or even doing some moderate Video editing.
I'm a gamer, not professional but I take it seriously. I am on a Vista 64 machine now and Vista is WWAAAAYYYY better for running games. Vista reallocates all of your ram from your previous task, to your current one. So, the games get the full attention of your components and run way faster. I play Crysis, Warhammer, Battlefield 2, 2142, Bioshock and all at full resolution and I get 50 frames per second and sometimes higher which is great considering the human eye can only detect 30. When I'm playing multi-player I'm always the first to enter a zone and I can keep fighting when my friends are lagged out. I'm saying that my oppinion greatly differs and I'm coming from the background of someone who builds machines, uses Vista 64 and games every week.
My machine cost like $620 to build.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8300 2.83ghz
4GB Ram
Vista 64 Business
Nvidia 8600GT 1 GB dedicated card (cost me like $74)
Gigabyte PCI express motherboard with 6 PCI slots, 1 PCIE
et cetera et cetera.
I think people are so used to hearing and passing on the BS Vista rumors that they begin to imagine they have had issues themselves to fit-in or something, when in reality most have never touched the OS.
What resolution might that be, 640x480 perhaps? And what's that? You think your graphics card or processor makes you 'load into a zone' faster in multiplayer? Never occured to you that your internet connection and ping might have something to do with it?
One last thing. The human eye is not digital. It does not see "frames". Instead, the eye collects data (light detection, pattern detection etc.) which when combined is percieved as an image, and this is all fed to the brain continuously. Furthermore, it can discern the "smoothness" of video/games/etc at a rate of 150-200 frames per second.
Sorry, but your arguements are redundant. While I don't advocate senseless Vista bashing, I've found my Vista rig (Q6700 2.6Ghz, 8600GT 512MB, 3G RAM) to be slower transfering files to and from USB than my XP rig. It also has minor glitches here and there (i.e. double click .jpeg image and it takes almost a minute to load, almost lost my user profile etc.).
Runs games fine. However, since Vista isn't installed on the same rig as XP, I can't compare performance (XP rig has way lower specs). Bottom line though, it's been a rough experience with Longhorn, where XP's been smooth sailing. Millions of people, Microsoft included, will tell you the same.
11/15/08
11/15/08
I'm a gamer, not professional but I take it seriously. I am on a Vista 64 machine now and Vista is WWAAAAYYYY better for running games. Vista reallocates all of your ram from your previous task, to your current one. So, the games get the full attention of your components and run way faster. I play Crysis, Warhammer, Battlefield 2, 2142, Bioshock and all at full resolution and I get 50 frames per second and sometimes higher which is great considering the human eye can only detect 30. When I'm playing multi-player I'm always the first to enter a zone and I can keep fighting when my friends are lagged out. I'm saying that my oppinion greatly differs and I'm coming from the background of someone who builds machines, uses Vista 64 and games every week.
My machine cost like $620 to build.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8300 2.83ghz
4GB Ram
Vista 64 Business
Nvidia 8600GT 1 GB dedicated card (cost me like $74)
Gigabyte PCI express motherboard with 6 PCI slots, 1 PCIE
et cetera et cetera.
I think people are so used to hearing and passing on the BS Vista rumors that they begin to imagine they have had issues themselves to fit-in or something, when in reality most have never touched the OS.
11/15/08
[www.tomshardware.com] (test machine)
[www.tomshardware.com] (9800GX2 results)
What resolution might that be, 640x480 perhaps? And what's that? You think your graphics card or processor makes you 'load into a zone' faster in multiplayer? Never occured to you that your internet connection and ping might have something to do with it?
One last thing. The human eye is not digital. It does not see "frames". Instead, the eye collects data (light detection, pattern detection etc.) which when combined is percieved as an image, and this is all fed to the brain continuously. Furthermore, it can discern the "smoothness" of video/games/etc at a rate of 150-200 frames per second.
Sorry, but your arguements are redundant. While I don't advocate senseless Vista bashing, I've found my Vista rig (Q6700 2.6Ghz, 8600GT 512MB, 3G RAM) to be slower transfering files to and from USB than my XP rig. It also has minor glitches here and there (i.e. double click .jpeg image and it takes almost a minute to load, almost lost my user profile etc.).
Runs games fine. However, since Vista isn't installed on the same rig as XP, I can't compare performance (XP rig has way lower specs). Bottom line though, it's been a rough experience with Longhorn, where XP's been smooth sailing. Millions of people, Microsoft included, will tell you the same.
11/17/08
It's also microsofts fault that I bought $299 speakers from the back of a van, because it had MSRP $1000 on the box.