@dingus: Yeah the other ones should, we got in 6 of the 50 in and were gonna open at 5am, also weve got a 40in samsung 1080p lcd I think its the 500 series and were gonna have that for $599
The Panasonic TC-P54S1 (54" screen) can be had for $1099.99 from Sears until this Saturday. Bing Cashback AND 10% off using a Sears credit card can be used as well. If you don't have a Sears card, Bank of America is offering 6% through sears.com and can be combined with Bing Cashback as well.
Sorry for the double post. I wasn't logged in when I did the first one.
@Emulsifide: Sears also had the best price on the 50" S1 a couple months ago - $899, no rebates or special form of payment needed. The price was only listed publicly on the web, but was available in-store if you asked.
Who would have thought Sears would be the place to go for a good deal on a TV?
@slaine17: Yep, I almost bit on that deal. I'm glad I waited. After BoA, BCB, and using some gift cards that I had forgotten about, I grabbed the 54" model for ~$900 yesterday.
The TV itself is AMAZING compared to my previous Hitachi P50S601. The quality of the image is fantastic and the blacks are super deep. I highly agree with Gary's pick/assessment of this TV.
I have an OLPC XO-1 and while the viewing angle is poor just due to the way the back of the screen reflects light at too perfect an angle instead of diffusing it, in ambient light it's great, and I'm sure they've improved a lot since the model I have.
The method for generating color images with a diffraction grating and backlight is also brilliant, and while it makes the image look a bit fuzzy, it's not bad at all, especially for a low cost device. Mary-Lou Jepsen is pretty brilliant and hard working from what I've seen in interviews, and I'm sure their product will do what they say.
That said, I'm loving the Sony PRS-505 reader I just got because I was tired of waiting for Pixel Qi to release something, but these screens can surely shake up the fledgling e-paper market.
@Charbax2: Fudge, wasn't expecting the actual guy who made the video to see my comment. Welp! Guess I'll go and hide in the fridge for a while then k thx bye.
The Apple thing is interesting, especially since they work so diligently to kill hackintosh makers. I realize this is not a full OS push, but the end result would be similar, on all sorts of strange equipment.
I'm not saying I don't like the idea, though. In fact, this would be great for a lot of people like me. I have a Camry Hybrid with a touch-screen nav system. I installed an iPod interface, which connects to the satellite input. Unfortunately, the iPod controls are almost unusable -- six big, text-based buttons and a 10 or 16 character limit to the song and artist display, depending on the screen. If I could have the standard iPod or iPhone iPod interface or, even better, Cover Flow, it would be great. To avoid using my system's crappy iPod controls, I usually set it to Auxiliary and use my iPod or iPhone to navigate music.
I agree with the Bing thing in principle. However, haven't all the major players in search, Microsoft, Yahoo and Google, catered to China's censorship policies?
OK, a couple of things about the LCD TV's. 5 HDMI ports is too many? Really? I have 2 desktops, two Dish DVR's, an HD-DVD player, a Blu-ray player, a PS3 and I have a few portable products which I like to use from time to time on the big screen. Seems I need more than 5.
Second, that's prohibitively expensive? Because in your article about which HDTV's to buy only the LG's are not priced in that range.
But the TV's aren't even american TV's! The British taxing system notwithstanding, they're completely uncomparable with US TV's. Let's wait for if and when they announce the 60Hz versions.
If some nation engaged in rampant mandatory pedophilia, a company that decided it had to engage in pedophilia there to go along and get along wouldn't do that because it's a retarded analogy.
On the other hand, an information provider that relies on the fact that its home nation does not censor decides that to make more money by heading into a new market, it has to go along to get along by censoring the very info they're supposed to be providing cause by golly that's just how it's done there.
Not even to mention the whole respectability and authority of the names MS and Google. Wanna blow your nose or make a copy? Use a Kleenex or Xerox because those'll get'r'done. Wanna do a search of the information that is reliably presented to you because the provider is the world leader in search? Use Google, or Bing if MS managed to convince you to roll that way. Except if you actually want real unvarnished info on Tienanmen in Chinese that is.
@bobofish: Next thing you know, you're gonna get Obama to swear at Wen Jiabao because he has the great firewall of china up.
I'm sure that'll do awesome for America's trade deficit.
@crackel: not to nitpick, but when making a "best of" list, you ignore the dollar signs.
... and if you are making a "best value" list, then you must calculate (total performance + service)/(total lifetime cost). You will find that Vizio's horrible reliability ratings nock it quite far down the value chart too.
@my favorite car is a motorcycle: similar top lists coming from that website will sometimes include TV's that are really good looking for a lower price. I see your point, but you can't just ignore dollar signs, we always have to have some regard of value. Otherwise, these lists will turn into the like of audiophile lists where people are paying thousands of dollars for a CD player or special power wires.
@crackel: not sure what website you're referring to. every smart shopper must assess value based on his own needs, not on some magazine salesman's most recent issue. the dollar sign on day 1 is only one of many variables. If the price tag really was more important than anything else, then you wouldn't be looking for sales at retailers -- you'd stick with garage & estate sales or the classifieds.
it is always true that undiscerning electronics buyers can find bigger shinier brighter things for cheaper prices than ever before. Sadly, most of these "values" are trashed quicker than ever before because of cheap design and horrid construction.
"looking good" today doesn't mean it's worth 2 nickels tomorrow. a wise shopper looks at upgradeability, compatibility, warranty, service, and so on, and weighs these performance values every bit as much as how bright the thing is in the loud megastore with harsh fluorescent lighting and uninformed sales staff. most people would be surprised when they visit those overpriced a/v-phile stores where tags don't end with .98, to find really good sale prices on gear that lasts more than one holiday season -- as well as service like free trial periods and other benefits.
@my favorite car is a motorcycle: sometimes I wish I could reply to a troll without approving his commenter account and promoting his comment. Not talking about you by the way, since you've already been approved.
Anyway, back to our conversation, cost is always a concern. Wise shoppers will also assess their risk and return, which involves the cost of the unit and how much they'll get out of it, for example, features and usability.
As far as no website could ever possibly do that for every shopper out there I completely agree with you. Top-n websites are useless. And this particular site that's referred to in the OP seems like a Panasonic shill to me.
First off, THX mode has to be gods gift to TV's, because this thing works wonders. It is truly worth it, let alone the TV itself which is jaw dropping crazy.
But, I am still going to go with my Kuro. Because fuck everything else my Kuro is goddamn amazing. Yes, it doesn't come with speakers, but it isnt like you were going to pair crappy TV speakers to this TV in the first place. There is no tuner. Seriously run your HDMI you don't need one. No stand included either (yea you need to buy it seperate) So two things (speaker, stand) are optional when most people would want them included and it doesn't even have a tuner but by shits who cares.
Words can't describe how good this looks out of the box. Forget fuddling with settings just pop it on Optimum and let the light/color sensor do its work regardless of where you are.
Back then I would have a hard time recommended the severe price tag if you were only doing casual use, but fortunatly you can find these beasts for well below MSRP at many places so before you look for anything else, do yourself the biggest favor and try and find one of these, because besides the XBR8 and Mitsubishi's LaserVue, there isn't any other TV that can beat a 141.
@Robotronic: I don't think the word "Best" means "best for people without a lot of cash." 4k isn't an unreasonable amount of money for something that's supposed to last 10-15 years. And most of the TVs in this list only cost that much in their largest iterations.
@nunyafishness: Yes, here's a suggestion: Cowboy up and buy a big TV anyway. You know you want to. Anyway, that's why these ones are so flat - sure they'll cover your whole wall, but they won't consume much depth.
Kidding aside, most of these models have little buddies too.
@nunyafishness: Ehh... sorry, should have mentioned-- already have a 40" in the main room, and this room is small enough that a 32" would be just fine. The iMac would be lovely, but I'm not paying that price for something I'll use for playing movies.
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Sorry for the double post. I wasn't logged in when I did the first one.
11/25/09
Who would have thought Sears would be the place to go for a good deal on a TV?
11/25/09
The TV itself is AMAZING compared to my previous Hitachi P50S601. The quality of the image is fantastic and the blacks are super deep. I highly agree with Gary's pick/assessment of this TV.
11/25/09
11/25/09
The method for generating color images with a diffraction grating and backlight is also brilliant, and while it makes the image look a bit fuzzy, it's not bad at all, especially for a low cost device. Mary-Lou Jepsen is pretty brilliant and hard working from what I've seen in interviews, and I'm sure their product will do what they say.
That said, I'm loving the Sony PRS-505 reader I just got because I was tired of waiting for Pixel Qi to release something, but these screens can surely shake up the fledgling e-paper market.
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As Chun-Li once said, "Gomen ne!"
11/21/09
I'm not saying I don't like the idea, though. In fact, this would be great for a lot of people like me. I have a Camry Hybrid with a touch-screen nav system. I installed an iPod interface, which connects to the satellite input. Unfortunately, the iPod controls are almost unusable -- six big, text-based buttons and a 10 or 16 character limit to the song and artist display, depending on the screen. If I could have the standard iPod or iPhone iPod interface or, even better, Cover Flow, it would be great. To avoid using my system's crappy iPod controls, I usually set it to Auxiliary and use my iPod or iPhone to navigate music.
11/21/09
11/20/09
Second, that's prohibitively expensive? Because in your article about which HDTV's to buy only the LG's are not priced in that range.
But the TV's aren't even american TV's! The British taxing system notwithstanding, they're completely uncomparable with US TV's. Let's wait for if and when they announce the 60Hz versions.
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11/21/09
I've always felt that was pretty weak tea.
If some nation engaged in rampant mandatory pedophilia, a company that decided it had to engage in pedophilia there to go along and get along wouldn't do that because it's a retarded analogy.
On the other hand, an information provider that relies on the fact that its home nation does not censor decides that to make more money by heading into a new market, it has to go along to get along by censoring the very info they're supposed to be providing cause by golly that's just how it's done there.
Not even to mention the whole respectability and authority of the names MS and Google. Wanna blow your nose or make a copy? Use a Kleenex or Xerox because those'll get'r'done. Wanna do a search of the information that is reliably presented to you because the provider is the world leader in search? Use Google, or Bing if MS managed to convince you to roll that way. Except if you actually want real unvarnished info on Tienanmen in Chinese that is.
11/21/09
I'm sure that'll do awesome for America's trade deficit.
11/20/09
Seriously, nice list.
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... and if you are making a "best value" list, then you must calculate (total performance + service)/(total lifetime cost). You will find that Vizio's horrible reliability ratings nock it quite far down the value chart too.
11/25/09
#tips
11/25/09
it is always true that undiscerning electronics buyers can find bigger shinier brighter things for cheaper prices than ever before. Sadly, most of these "values" are trashed quicker than ever before because of cheap design and horrid construction.
"looking good" today doesn't mean it's worth 2 nickels tomorrow. a wise shopper looks at upgradeability, compatibility, warranty, service, and so on, and weighs these performance values every bit as much as how bright the thing is in the loud megastore with harsh fluorescent lighting and uninformed sales staff. most people would be surprised when they visit those overpriced a/v-phile stores where tags don't end with .98, to find really good sale prices on gear that lasts more than one holiday season -- as well as service like free trial periods and other benefits.
11/26/09
Anyway, back to our conversation, cost is always a concern. Wise shoppers will also assess their risk and return, which involves the cost of the unit and how much they'll get out of it, for example, features and usability.
As far as no website could ever possibly do that for every shopper out there I completely agree with you. Top-n websites are useless. And this particular site that's referred to in the OP seems like a Panasonic shill to me.
11/20/09
But, I am still going to go with my Kuro. Because fuck everything else my Kuro is goddamn amazing. Yes, it doesn't come with speakers, but it isnt like you were going to pair crappy TV speakers to this TV in the first place. There is no tuner. Seriously run your HDMI you don't need one. No stand included either (yea you need to buy it seperate) So two things (speaker, stand) are optional when most people would want them included and it doesn't even have a tuner but by shits who cares.
Words can't describe how good this looks out of the box. Forget fuddling with settings just pop it on Optimum and let the light/color sensor do its work regardless of where you are.
Back then I would have a hard time recommended the severe price tag if you were only doing casual use, but fortunatly you can find these beasts for well below MSRP at many places so before you look for anything else, do yourself the biggest favor and try and find one of these, because besides the XBR8 and Mitsubishi's LaserVue, there isn't any other TV that can beat a 141.
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Kidding aside, most of these models have little buddies too.
11/22/09
#tips